Have we found a consensus on good riding trousers
The consensus is there are (and can never be) such a thing as good riding trousers.
Ok so can someone please talk about why trousers aren’t good?
Always excessively baggy, don’t stretch as you move, rub you as they crease, make noises rubbing on bike, catch in the chainring, not as warm as a roubaix warmer/tight, don’t breath well if waterproof and if not waterproof then weigh a ton when wet.
That said, everyone should own an emergency pair of waterproof trousers as in the most horrific conditions, its worth the drawbacks. For example I wore mine over leg warmers descending the Tourmalet in the snow – kept me dry and warm in conditions that could have been dangerous otherwise.