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  • Donald! Trump!
  • mikewsmith
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    doh missed that, worth doing twice though

    GrahamS
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    So what do we make of Donny’s threat that the US won’t trade with any country trading with North Korea?

    For the record, US trade with China in 2016 stood at 115.6 Billion USD exports and 462.6 Billion USD imports.

    Is he really prepared to throw that away?

    I suppose it would help his trade deficit, but seems like there would be a negative impact on American jobs, at least in the short term, as well as some pretty unhappy consumers.

    ninfan
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    For the record, US trade with China in 2016 stood at 115.6 Billion USD exports and 462.6 Billion USD imports.

    Is he really prepared to throw that away?

    Are China?

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    akira
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    Mexico will pay for the wall.
    I’ll give a million dollars to charity.
    I’ll stop trade with any country doing business with NK.
    Don’t think China are sweating too much.

    GrahamS
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    Indeed.

    I’m sure economically speaking China would much rather ditch NK trade than US trade.
    Rather depends if they think he is bluffing or not I guess.

    ninfan
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    Rather depends if they think he is bluffing or not I guess.

    It’s rather perfect in many ways, Trump can introduce targeted trade penalties/tariffs on China fairly painlessly as punitive actions over their support for NK, without taking flak for starting a trade war.

    GrahamS
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    Hmmm you might be right ninfan.

    “targeted trade penalties/tariffs” sounds quite a long way from “stopping all trade” but it wouldn’t exactly be the first time Donny’s Twitter rhetoric didn’t quite match his action.

    ninfan
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    “Considering, along with other options”

    Even better then, if he goes for tariffs/penalties then he’s taken a measured, proportionate step rather than the nuclear (pun intended) option

    Peg your ground with room to manoeuvre and then strike a deal in the middle – classic art of the deal move

    MrWoppit
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    Blustering, threatening and issuing contradictory responses whilst the Crazy Fat Kid just ignores his dumb bluster and goes ahead with whatever he wants to anyway, timing his provocations to coincide with notable American dates/events just to poke the Stupid Fat Orange Lump with a metaphorical stick.

    Classic Trump inneffective dim incompetence.

    ninfan
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    Blustering, threatening and issuing contradictory responses… …Classic Trump inneffective dim incompetence.

    Trump’s North Korea strategy: A lot like Obama’s

    😆

    mikewsmith
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    Peg your ground with room to manoeuvre and then strike a deal in the middle – classic art of the deal move

    The ghost writer in charge?

    What’s the joke above ninfan, seems like you missed it. The joke is despite his shouting and telling everyone how big he is, the only option is sanctions. Pitching big and failing is a failure to understand or research.

    kimbers
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    Peg your ground with room to manoeuvre and then strike a deal in the middle – classic art of the deal move

    Ha ha next you’ll be telling us hrs really good at picking staff

    That’s the problem with Trump, he writes a book(well someone else writes it for him) & makes his own TV show telling you how great a business man he is , and people actually believe it!

    Klunk
    Free Member

    A lot like Obama’s

    No Fire? No Fury? President Snowflake Bluster!

    ninfan
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    The joke is despite his shouting and telling everyone how big he is, the only option is sanctions.

    So now you’re complaining that he isn’t going to bomb them?

    Ha ha next you’ll be telling us hrs really good at picking staff

    The US has always had a very different management culture from the UK – one of the differences is the recognition in the US that performance is unpredictable, someone who has all the right ‘attributes’ on paper can, in reality, be crap – that’s why the art of firing has always been more important than the art of hiring, underperformers get sacked, not kept on or sideways promoted, it’s very much part of US corporate life. Certainly beats the Peter principle that saw us end up with people like Corbyn and May

    MrWoppit
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    ninfan – Member

    Trump’s North Korea strategy: A lot like Obama’s

    We’re not discussing Obama. We’re discussing Trump.

    Your adoption of Flump’s tactic of pointing at his predecessor to deflect attention from his idiotic behaviour works as well for you here as it does fir him, there.

    Good to see that you’re finally recognising his uselessness by pointing out that his behaviour is the same as something else you consider useless.

    Unless of course, you’re saying that Obama’s strategy was just like one that you evidently admire.

    Check your brain, it may be dead.

    ninfan
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    Good to see that you’re finally recognising his uselessness by pointing out that his behaviour is the same as something else you consider useless.

    Unless of course, you’re saying that Obama’s strategy was just like one that you evidently admire.

    The corollary to which is, of course, that in fact saint Obama was actually as bad as Trump, therefore Trump cannot be the incompetent disaster that the lefties claim, or that Trump is better than they had previously accepted

    MrWoppit
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    I’m not talking about other people’s perceptions/opinions.

    I’m talking about yours.

    Which seem to be, on the latest evidence, bollox.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    someone who has all the right ‘attributes’ on paper can, in reality, be crap –

    kimbers
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    someone who has all the right ‘attributes’ on paper can, in reality, be crap –

    ??

    oldnpastit
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    The corollary to which is, of course, that in fact saint Obama was actually as bad as Trump, therefore Trump cannot be the incompetent disaster that the lefties claim, or that Trump is better than they had previously accepted

    Well, Trump threatened “fire and fury” if NK carried on threatening the US.

    They then threatened the US with a missile launch and a nuke test.

    And Trump had nothing he could do. Just left looking weak and inept.

    mikewsmith
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    Trump, needs some political viagra he just can’t get up to his promises

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    Peg your ground with room to manoeuvre and then strike a deal in the middle – classic art of the deal move

    This sort of thing?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-usa-assessment/north-korea-can-hit-most-of-united-states-u-s-officials-idUSKBN1AG2J4

    ninfan
    Free Member

    North Korea can hit most of United States: U.S. officials

    Ah, “US officials”

    45 minutes anyone?

    aracer
    Free Member

    Remind me which of those people had the right attributes on paper? Though to be fair there is still plenty of crap in post. #drainingtheswamp

    mikewsmith
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    Aw ninfan still loves a lot of don….

    ninfan
    Free Member

    Remind me which of those people had the right attributes on paper?

    Hillary Clinton

    aracer
    Free Member

    Well that’s a relief – so the man baby just tweets at 3am rather than having any influence on real policy.

    GrahamS
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    mikewsmith
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    Since Trump heard about re entries he has been ass against the wall. Remind me how ninfan thinks…

    Lol I remember it’s hate on anybody more left than Hitler

    aracer
    Free Member

    Ah – you couldn’t find an example among any of Trump’s appointees? Thanks.

    whitestone
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    Who knew that bullying could be so complicated?

    whitestone
    Free Member

    Double post – apologies.

    MrWoppit
    Free Member

    aracer – Member
    ninfan » Hillary Clinton
    Ah – you couldn’t find an example among any of Trump’s appointees? Thanks.

    Well yes, he can, but that would distract from his baseline defence when he can’t think of anything else, which is: “Clinton! Obama! “…

    As I say, adopting the last-ditch mouthings of his useless hero.

    ninfan
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    Pz_Steve
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    ninfan » Trump’s North Korea strategy: A lot like Obama’s

    I’m wondering whether Ninfan thinks this (shared) strategy is sound or not. Just want him to confirm that either (a) Obama was right, or (b) Trump is wrong.

    Or perhaps was the wrong thing to do but is somehow now a brilliant strategic masterstroke?

    Pz_Steve
    Full Member

    Damn, damn, damn. I’ve been resisting posting on this thread since the first page. Now I’ve gone and FTT.

    I feel dirty…

    grahamh
    Free Member

    And another great article by Jim Wright
    Ship of Fools

    frankconway
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    @grahamh; mnuchin’s request was, apparently, based on a requirement for secure comms on a usaf jet. When it was pointed out that secure comms were available in other planes the request was dropped.
    Much more interesting is how trump is being pilloried by brietbart, amongst others, for walking back from his original DACA statements.

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