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Shit! Still not dead 🙁
Came to check the thread with exactly the same thought. Equally disappointed.
I think that’s why several people allege he wears nappies.
now I'm gagging
I now appreciate that can be read in two completely different ways 🙂
Trump is having a good day, turns out President Joe Biden has just signed up to 'truth social' and is already laying into Trump. Top trolling 😀
I’m trying to avoid reading any articles about the Mango Mussolini and his KuKluxKlownshow followers and Repugnikkkants in general.
They are utterly useless and loathsome individuals who don’t deserve to be considered to be part of the human race. I’ll be back when I hear he’s been found guilty and given a thirty year sentence with possible release in twenty, if he behaves himself.
Which is unlikely.
KuKluxKlownshow
Is it wrong to chuckle at such a great description of such dangerous people?
My suspicion is that this is a deliberate attempt to delay things.
https://twitter.com/OMGno2trump/status/1714767951360827731
It's like a comedy show.
Trumps flipped his lid.. like his wig has actually blown off.
AIUI, a plea deal means that you are required to testify, which means you have to rat out your mates if you were part of a conspiracy.
https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1715003414482919740
Yeah, but how much credibility has she got really? I mean the whole world pretty much said at the time - Are you mad? Including Fox News internal emails for goodness sake Even Trump's team were trying to keep her away from microphones and the press when they realised she wasn't from planet earth.
Apparently her light sentence is because of the quality of evidence she has handed over implicating Trump and Meadows. Fingers crossed.
She just dished some good dirt I bet
AIUI, a plea deal means that you are required to testify
Not necessarily. It all depends on what you negotiate. Most prosecutions result in plea bargains, most plea bargains are just "you plead guilty to this, we drop that, the judge gives you whatever, and it's all finished".
Did Powell actually do anything directly for Trump or was it all through Guilianni?
Anything she says will be meaningless, she's got whatever the literal opposite of credibility is. But she might have actual evidence material which doesn't depend on her honesty/connection to reality.
trump's name does not feature in her plea documents and he wasn't referred to during the plea hearing.
The more interesting one is kenneth cheseboro and whether he cuts a last minute deal.
My favourite detail here is that, in return for a suspended sentence, she has 'agreed to testify truthfully at future trials' 🤣😂🤣
BBC News - Sidney Powell: Trump ex-lawyer pleads guilty in Georgia election case
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67153479
Did Powell actually do anything directly for Trump or was it all through Guilianni?<br />Posted 1 hour ago
I would think her plea will only of been agreed if she has actual evidence that can flip one of the other conspirators. Does not matter if it is trump I think the idea is that they flip enough of the lower level players to flip Meadows.
trump’s name does not feature in her plea documents and he wasn’t referred to during the plea hearing.
The more interesting one is kenneth cheseboro and whether he cuts a last minute deal.
yes, this whole RICO case is a hub and spoke with Trump and Meadows at the centre. The more people in the spokes flip the better chance of a conviction at the hub. Shame the Cheese & Kraken case will not take place 😀
Might be spending the weekend in the nick.
Breached gagging order one to many times lol
Somewhat thin excuse that his campaign team forgot to take the post down
pk13
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Might be spending the weekend in the nick.
Breached gagging order one to many times lol
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tjagain
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Somewhat thin excuse that his campaign team forgot to take the post down
Detail's?
And now Ken Cheesbro has taken a plea deal to follow the lead of Sidney Powell.
In the nyc civil fraud case, Trump got a gagging order and was ordered to remove a defamatory post about a court clerk. But the post remained online for 17 days. The judge is considering sanctions, including prison.
futonrivercrossing
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In the nyc civil fraud case, Trump got a gagging order and was ordered to remove a defamatory post about a court clerk. But the post remained online for 17 days. The judge is considering sanctions, including prison
Oooo, that would be lovely!!
Oooo, that would be lovely!!
possibly, but it's also not clear it wouldn't be counterproductive. It would only be for a few days but he could make crazy amounts of mileage out of it.
possibly, but it’s also not clear it wouldn’t be counterproductive. It would only be for a few days but he could make crazy amounts of mileage out of it.
So could his opponents though.
Trump is reportedly terrified of prison (not unreasonable, I suppose). A few days banged up on contempt might persuade him that any deal that keeps him out is worth taking...or it might lead him to think that anything is better than being found guilty.
Whoopee do 🤷♂️
Any normal criminal defendant would be inside by now 🤷♂️🤷♂️
^^ True but the judge is threatening him with jail time if he continues.
Let's hope he does.
Slowly slowly catchy monkey.
Judge sets out ground rules and warns of consequences if ground rules breached.
Breach results in limited gag order.
Non compliance with instruction to fully take down post results in small fine.
trump will see this as inconsequential.
Next infraction will, IMO, result in him getting hammered
^That's pretty much how I see it..
Basicaly taken all and any excuses away without handing him ammo.
Well you did it once and were warned, you did it twice and then fined...there's no way anyone can claim 'accident or oversight' a third time, quite the opposite, it would prove that the orders are being willfully ingnored.
This one belongs in the 'shit you couldn't make up' column...trump, at a campaign rally in NH, compares himself to Nelson Mandela.
In other news...he is expected to be in NY court today when Michael Cohen testifies against him; should see the orange one's full range of facial expressions accompanied by head shaking, muttering and whispering to lawyers.
If he talks to the press before and/or after today's session that will, I'm sure, be...amusing.
Some of the stuff coming out of his mouth makes me think he is going down the diminished responsibility route. Even by his low standards
1. He is actually off his tits on pain meds
2. He is clearly a lot smarter than he wants us to believe.
3. Bloke is a total bell end and very dangerous to the stability of the US and wider region.
4 Russian plant.
No 2 admittedly a struggle for me
Some of the stuff coming out of his mouth makes me think he is going down the diminished responsibility route.
He seems even more random than previously, deliberately or genuinely
Not skin colour or being beaten up by police.
Nah, comparison he was making was...jail time on trumped up charges - released and pardoned - elected to high office where he worked tirelessly for justice, fairness and racial equality.
Yep, the very qualities which define trump.
Should have added - he also sees himself as the saviour of his people.
He'll be comparing himself to Jesus Christ next.
He’ll be comparing himself to Jesus Christ next.
I'm pretty sure he's not the Messiah, he really is a very naughty boy
At least Brian had the good grace to deny being the messiah
Oh dear, another Trump lawyer just pled guilty.
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1716811882970194160
Soon after her court appearance we should expect trump to say, same as he did with powell, in disclaiming her...never part if the team, any involvement she may have had was peripheral etc etc.
In other news, in the election subversion case trump's lawyers have filed a series if appeals to get the case dismissed; more long shots, I think, or in US terms...hail marys.
Seems to me the pressure is getting to trump - how wonderful.
Magnolia Mussolini has shown just what a genius intellect he has, he’s just out found that U.S. is spelled US, so U.S. is just the same as us, the people… #facepalm
https://uproxx.com/viral/trump-dragged-realizing-united-states-equals-us/
Stable genius! 🤦🏻♂️
CountZero
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Magnolia Mussolini
Mandarin, surely 😄
Mushroom Mussolini if Stormy Daniels is correct 😀
And his ex-Chief of Staff has been ratting him out for months.
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1716924801426886976
Mandarin, surely<br /><br />
I was thinking about after he’s been in the slammer for a couple of months… 😁
I'm almost letting myself believe he might see the inside of a jail at some point.
It'll be a very posh one but it wont have a golf course and I don't think he is tennis fit.😁
I reckon there's going to be a mental capacity plea coming in when they run out of other options.
Dildo of consequences, etc.
Brace, brace, brace!
My only hope for all of this, is that his troubles are gaining traction and more airtime, even some of his most hardcore fans are starting to see through him. But lets face it, they are pretty hardcore.
^^^ this is basically it.
The base of lunatics is enough to get him the republican endorsement, but it is nowhere near enough to get him elected as president again.
Biden actually beat him handsomely in the end, and remember he actually polled less votes than Clinton in 2016.
The US economy has doing Ok, so there is no stick to beat Biden with apart from age and his son.
The base of lunatics is enough to get him the republican endorsement, but it is nowhere near enough to get him elected as president again.
Don't bank on it. Many polls are showing Biden v Trump as a tie which is utterly bonkers. link
He may not be on the ballot, the Colorado case is going ahead, if the Supreme Court rules that he is invalid to be on the ballot, it will automatically apply to all the others.
I’m almost letting myself believe he might see the inside of a jail at some point.
He's not ever going to jail. As ex-pres he's the right to security protection for the rest of his life. I think the worst would be home arrrest at Mar A Lago (or Trump tower or wherever) which doesn't really sound that terrible. I'd still love that to happen and the judge to force him to wear the orange jumpsuit 24/7 regardless but I think thats as close to a comeuppance that he'll get. Apart from going bankrupt/having to admit he's only worth 10 dollars and three cents after all
The base of lunatics is enough to get him the republican endorsement, but it is nowhere near enough to get him elected as president again.
That's what we all said on the first few pages of this thread!
Well, hopefully he's bankrupt at that time so will be slumming "home arrest" at somewhere more down market than Mar-a-Lago or Trump Towers...
As ex-pres he’s the right to security protection for the rest of his life. I think the worst would be home arrrest at Mar A Lago (or Trump tower or wherever) which doesn’t really sound that terrible
Anywhere is a prison if you can't leave. Remember at the start if Covid when there were those folk who couldn't get off their cruise ships - they weren't all that happy about their holiday being extended indefinitely.
Security for protection for the rest of his life is part of the package of being president - not sure if its a 'right' though of just a courtesy. It has been recent tradition to provide that (all American traditions are recent really) but I don't know if its enshrined in law or that its irrevocable.
When you look at the resources that security involves it's not just a few men in suits talking into their wrists - on the first day Trump attended court in New York there were 37,000 additional police on the streets. Becuase of his inflammatory behaviour Trump as an ex-pres is extremely high mainencene, not becuase of any risk he faces but becuase of the risk he presents. I don't think theres any contradiction involved in both imprisoning him and providing him with security though - it would be a much easier place to ensure he's safe and that everyone else is safer.
it would be a much easier place to ensure he’s safe and that everyone else is safer.
It would be much easier if he was dead (and I'm not ordinarily in favour of capital punishment but I can make an exception for Trump...)
The base of lunatics is enough to get him the republican endorsement, but it is nowhere near enough to get him elected as president again.
How we all laughed and said there's no way the Orange Biffoon could get elected in the first place.
on the first day Trump attended court in New York there were 37,000 additional police on the streets
Not quite - there are only 36,000 NYPD to begin with! NYPD said that almost everyone was "on standby".
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/sources-35000-nypd-officers-on-standby-in-case-of-protests-trump-tower/
donny has just copped a further fine from Judge Engoron - $10,000 this time after the judge put him on the stand to explain further (apparent) criticism of court staff.
After that the odious orange one 'stormed out of court' in a huff.
The judge also denied some further attempted legal manoeuvring by team trump.
Oh what fun!
Well if his security is paramount I can't think of a safer place than a supermax. Preferably that one in Arizona where they have to wear pink and sleep in tents.
I read an article a while back about how someone like Trump might be incarcerated. I think it speculated that while he wouldn't go to a regular prison, there were military bases or something like that where he could be detained. It wouldn't be like being in a regular prison but I think it sounded like it wouldn't be like being confined to Mar-a-Lago either.
They keep threatening him with jail if the fines don't stop him breaking the embargo, so they must have a plan....
First fine $5k, second fine 10k; if fines double for each breach of the gag order - 6 more breaches and the cumulative will be $1.275 million.
I still think the judge will rapidly tire of trump and a suspended sentence isn't far away so...another breach after that and I'll remove the suspended bit.
They keep threatening him with jail if the fines don’t stop him breaking the embargo, so they must have a plan….
Guantanamo Bay is still open.
I think this is my favourite image.
He's been losing weight.
Quote of the day, Engoron on Trump: “As the trier of fact, I find that the witness is not credible”
As funny as it is seeing him in an orange play suit, can we please try to remain objective?
The guy is abhorent, so don't stoop to his level.