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[quote=martinhutch ]Stay classy

You seem to be making dodgy assumptions


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 1:04 am
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UK visit cancelled as he is scared of the protests according to the grauniad

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/donald-trump-visit-to-london-called-off-amid-fears-of-mass-protests


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 1:35 am
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Donald Trump this week boasted of delivering [url= https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/f-52-planes-trump-boasted-of-selling-to-norway-only-exist-in-the-call-of-duty-video-game/#.Wle7wYfW6QU.twitter ]F-52” jets to the Norwegian government[/url]*

* For anyone not up on their American weapons of war F-52 jets are fictional planes from Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 2:17 am
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Nice spot... (on the previous page, it's OK ninfan has told us Obama once made a mistake)


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 2:33 am
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I imagine the "shithole" reference will go down well with the dumb ****s who voted for him so I don't imagine anything will change


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 2:44 am
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He's afraid that anything from the Obama presidency remain because it would outshine his plans for his legacy. It's more in the style of a demagogue than a leader of a democracy.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 8:10 am
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Blaming Obama for selling off Grosvenor Square embassy when it was Bush. Along with his shithole comment how is he still in office?


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 8:11 am
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Don't know if I'm happy he's cancelled or not - I suppose it's saved me a day's holiday. 🙂


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 8:26 am
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British Egg Industry Council has issued a press release expressing its disappointment in the cancellation. 🙂


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 8:31 am
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Apparently, the "shithole" comment was OK because he was speaking to "his base".

That would be the base that's not big enough to get him re-elected.

Very genius. Bigly smart.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 8:38 am
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Is a shame about his visit, I reckon he'd have drawn a much bigger crowd than Obama too 😈


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 8:49 am
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I would love to have seen the STW designed banners that would have been taken.

I bet there would have been some comic genius at work. 😀


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 9:17 am
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Don't know if I'm happy he's cancelled or not - I suppose it's saved me a day's holiday

I am unhappy. Me and wife were going to join the protests and we haven't had a good protest in a long time


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 9:18 am
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the land was leased anyway so they hardly sold it off. duke of something or other owns it I think


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 9:39 am
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Trump knew exactly what base he was appealing to when he said he didn't want people from shitholes like Haiti, but more from Norway


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 10:17 am
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Gutted- I was looking forward to showing the tangerine **** nugget my butt cheeks.
I really don't get the world we live in.
It's one thing to spin the truth, but how can you blatantly and continually lie, more than that, how can you lie about stuff that is so easily disproved ? how can you fight against sure bare faced lies ?
I'd like to see ninfan or the chekbot try to explain away this latest tweet - 'all politicians lie'. 'it's all part of the game', 'but what about hilary'.....
I really do despair.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 10:38 am
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Bitchin about a property deal is probably the only thing he's vaguely qualified (in the civilised world) in having an opinion on. Shame he's not coming over - there'd have been a right ding-dong.


 
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It's one thing to spin the truth, but how can you blatantly and continually lie, more than that, how can you lie about stuff that is so easily disproved ? how can you fight against sure bare faced lies ?
I'd like to see ninfan or the chekbot try to explain away this latest tweet

Which tweet are you referring to as a ‘lie’?


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:13 am
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duke of something or other owns it I think

Westminster I would guess.

EDIT - Wikipedia says it was sold to the Qataris.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:16 am
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The one about the Obama administration selling the Grosvenor Sq site when it was the Bush administration that did it. Then again it could be any of them - they are pretty short on facts and truth.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:16 am
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Which tweet are you referring to as a ‘lie’?
see even ninfan cannot narrow it down when you say the one that is not true/ just lies


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:18 am
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The one about the Obama administration selling the Grosvenor Sq site when it was the Bush administration that did it. Then again it could be any of them - they are pretty short on facts and truth.

No, you’re simply wrong

The [u]decision[/u] to sell the site was made under GWB

The [u]sale[/u]* took place on Obama’s watch

You know, a bit like how the [u]decision[/u] to move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem was made under the Clinton administration, but the responsibility for actually [u]moving[/u] it is being blamed on Donald

*(of the listed building, with, presumably, the continuation of the lease on the ground it was built on)


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:24 am
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Every president since 1995 has opted to invoke a six month waiver on formally moving the US embassy to Jerusalem.

Including Trump.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:32 am
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Precisely - so you are happy to accept there is a clear distinction between the president the [u]decision[/u] is made under, and the president responsible for [u]carrying out the actual deed[/u]

Which means that Trump was right about the sale taking place under Obama

Perfect


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:34 am
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Can you please stop putting words in my mouth, ninfan.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:39 am
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Only when you stop applying double standards


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:43 am
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Seems the Westminsters had said that the only thing they would sell it [the [i][b]freehold[/b][/i]] for was the return of land confiscated during/after the American WoI - which is largely symbolic as it was never going to be returned - so it was a way of saying "We're not selling it to you."

The Americans couldn't upgrade the existing building to desired standards by retro-fit so they raised money for the new site by selling off other properties they owned in London as well as the [b][i]lease[/i][/b] for the Grosvenor Sq site. The Westminsters still own the freehold.

And of course, nothing has changed between him agreeing to come and now - so when he said he'd cut the ribbon, the deal was as "bad" then as it is now (although I don't know what made the deal "bad" - does anyone know the figures and why he thinks it's "bad"?). We all know why he's not coming (for now anyway). His ego couldn't handle the prospect of what lay in wait.

I'm sure he'll come when his approval ratings have improved significantly.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:46 am
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All I've done is to illustrate that there's a six month waiver on the 1995 act that has been invoked by all presidents since Clinton. I don't see how that's a double standard.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:47 am
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Ninfan will keep pretending that Trump isnt ignorant about the building sale, the move was started by Bush & finished by Obama

the biggest lie in the tweet is that He said he didnt want to cut the ribbon 😆 😆 when we all know his ego could never handle the demos he would get here

anyway ninfan, here you go.......

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:50 am
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the biggest lie in the tweet is that He said he didnt want to cut the ribbon 😆 when we all know his ego could never handle the demos he would get here

I thought the real reason was that his staff couldn’t trust him with scissors?


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:53 am
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I thought the real reason was that his staff couldn’t trust him with scissors?

theyd found a way around that & it'd even make his hands look bigger

http://www.wilko.com/scissors+rulers/wilko-safety-scissors/invt/0253180


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:56 am
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Damn it ! Kimbers beat me to it !


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:57 am
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Duh, out of stock innit!

In other news - Fiat Chrysler bringing back 2500 jobs from Mexico to Michigan with $1 billion investment and cash bonuses for existing staff

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/11/news/companies/fiat-chrysler-tax-reform-bonus-jobs/index.html


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 11:59 am
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[quote=ninfan ]No, you’re simply wrong
The decision to sell the site was made under GWB
The sale* took place on Obama’s watch

Careful you don't get dizzy


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 12:14 pm
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Has anyone read the full transcript of the interview* Trump gave to the Wall St Journal?, link to article below.

[url= https://www.wsj.com/articles/transcript-of-donald-trump-interview-with-the-wall-street-journal-1515715481 ]Full transcript of Trump Interview with WSJ[/url]

*Interview is perhaps a stretch of the imagination


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 12:16 pm
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So over £500 million for the [i]lease[/i] on a London property, central, crowded and cramped, organised ahead of listed status to maximise profits, followed by a replacement that's a state-of-the-art modern freehold monster in a part of an expanding capital city with excellent road and rail linkage, top-rate security situation and all the rest of it, is a "bad deal"?

And that's his reason for not visiting but sending "the President is a moron" Tillerson instead?

And this a property expert?

Every time he opens that ugly fat gob of his, is just more confirmation of his status as a turd-for-brains idiot.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 12:28 pm
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Now publicly branded a Racist by the UN.

Hopefully gone soon...


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 12:55 pm
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Fiat Chrysler bringing back 2500 jobs from Mexico to Michigan with $1 billion investment

Also from that article:
[i]“Fiat Chrysler (FCAU) had already been planning to bolster production at the Warren plant. In January 2017, the company said it would spend $1 billion to expand factories in Ohio and Michigan, creating 2,000 jobs total. ”[/i]

So planned and announced long before the glorious tax reforms.

But yeah, jolly good, 2,500 manufacturing plant jobs that will probably be fully automated within the next ten to fifteen years. #maga 🙄


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 12:55 pm
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Now publicly branded a Racist by the UN.

Hopefully gone soon...


You're not one of the tinfoil hatters that thinks the UN runs the deep state are you? 😯


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 1:42 pm
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I read it as "Hopefully Trump gone soon" but the "gone" could refer to the UN.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 1:47 pm
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Ah... Trump getting rid of the UN makes more sense. Bad deal. Huge win etc.


 
Posted : 12/01/2018 1:48 pm
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Hopefully Trump gone soon

This

You're not one of the tinfoil hatters that thinks the UN runs the deep state are you?

I've no idea what this means, so probably not no.


 
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