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Zwift, my journey, my weight and my fitness.

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SouthernXC may sharpen his focus

There will be XCing, there may be Enduroing, there WON'T be any more motorbike buying...


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 12:48 pm
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In the ZA workout - Newbie.


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 12:53 pm
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@crosshair haha noted.

By the way, there's a pretty good guide to getting Zwiftpower setup and how it works here:


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 1:27 pm
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Computer crashed half way in with "radeon wattman settings have been restored to default settings" Has my machine now fixed this problem?
Oh my - if you get dropped from the pack - it's terrible.. Really enjoyed it though.


 
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Love the thread - You guys have made up my mind to buy one of the tacx T2240 from Halfords - my time is very limited so this will be a godsend!

One Qu, how noisy is this TT when zwifting? I'm planning on using it in the kitchen when the kids are in bed, will probably use the sonos system too but don't want it all blaring if at all possible!?


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 1:43 pm
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Wohoo.

I've sourced a power meter to rent. It's not the same model (105vs Ultegra) but who cares? ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 2:41 pm
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By the way, there's a pretty good guide to getting Zwiftpower setup and how it works here:

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Just read through this, answers a few questions, ta!


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 3:58 pm
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Ok I have two more questions...

First question. How do you select a direction at a turn from the mobile link app? Can't see a button for it but assume it's there somewhere as it's meant to be the controller for the game.

Second question. How do I get the cool Z kit that someone rode past me in today? I had the jersey when I was a kid riding around on my racer and want it for my virtual self now ๐Ÿ™‚

Edit... I should have googled that last one, level 8 for the vintage jersey pack. Shame I can't transfer my 15k Trainer Road miles!


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 4:37 pm
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First question. How do you select a direction at a turn from the mobile link app? Can't see a button for it but assume it's there somewhere as it's meant to be the controller for the game.
You need to select "ride" or whatever it is from the mobile app, then the turn options appear on the same page where you can give ride ons, elbow flicks, etc. Only when they also appear on screen though.

the blue one that looks a bit comic-book like? Vintage kit, level 8 if so!


 
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Drafting and a Fan - two things a numpty notices as very important after 30mins. Noise is minimal when using a training tyre. In the end I got a cheap dedicated rear wheel set up. Just seemed considerably less hassle.


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 4:51 pm
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Zilog, yes the one bottom left...
Yeah that one is cool, often have that on!

There should be more distinctive jerseys, or comedy options like chicken suits or stormtroopers ๐Ÿ™‚

Drafting and a Fan - two things a numpty notices as very important after 30mins.
Yes to both! It's very satisfying to beat people who've outputted more power than you, by racing smarter!


 
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The team I'm in wear this:

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It's a grower - stands out in a group ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 4:54 pm
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MrBlobby, as Zilog says, the top two action buttons become Left and Right when they appear on screen which is just after the big square neon direction sign on the course.

These same buttons also become the skip forward and back buttons when in workout mode.


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 5:16 pm
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More questions:

How do I know when I'm drafting, apart from the "close gap" graphic and speed increase?

In an event, whats the lorry symbol at the top for, and why does a floating thumbs up appear every now and again?


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 5:27 pm
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@Kryton57 - you get the 3m.....2m....1m....okay
your guy tucks in behind the one in front and it feels slightly less of an effort to pedal.

In theory, I can't draft yet though - I'm terrible at it.

The symbols are powerups

& the thumbs up are people "liking" "ride-on'ing" other cyclists.


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 5:30 pm
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Also Kryton- the TTbike doesn't draft but folks on normal bikes can still draft you.
The blue truck icon is the Truck Draft Power up. (I'll post a link in a sec).
Floating thumbs are people giving you a 'Ride On!' They get stashed in your avatars jersey pocket ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 5:33 pm
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^ Nath beat me to the link ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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[quote=Kryton57 ]
How do I know when I'm drafting, apart from the "close gap" graphic and speed increase?

you can see the w/kg of the person in front. yours should be a little bit less...

as with others, i'm only just starting to get the hang of closing in and then not overshooting.


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 5:34 pm
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also at normal speeds (i.e. not up or down hill) your guy will sit up on the hoods, and then go back onto the drops when you stop drafting


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 5:36 pm
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This is how my drafting attempts go:
find myself in front, ease off a little, watch the group whizz past, sprint to get back into the group but overshoot, AND REPEAT ๐Ÿ˜ณ


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 5:37 pm
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I find it pretty easy on Zwift now. If only t'were so simple at Hillingdon ๐Ÿ˜€


 
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I think it's to do with my realism settings. I'm currently at 90% realism, folk have been saying it's easier to draft around 50%? Not sure why.

@crosshair - it will be soon!

Coincidentally I've just been rereading the race reports: You know what I was saying last night, house fly bit, I daren't put this in the other thread as Tired will be disappointed lol - but I didn't even notice that the guy who won had powered off from the beginning and joined the back of the group!!!


 
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I found the [url= http://www.titaniumgeek.com/cycling/zwift-user-manual-unofficial-running-updates/ ]TitaniumGeek Zwift User Manual[/url] a great resource for learning Zwift.

It's probably being mentioned before on one of the many pages of this monster thread!


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 6:17 pm
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Doing a recovery ride on Zwift, some guy burned past doing 26.7 w/kg ๐Ÿ˜†


 
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๐Ÿ˜† Cav signed up and going for a sprint?


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 7:52 pm
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Sorry mate, I was getting ready for racing Nath in 15 min time!


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 7:55 pm
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lol 7min 30 has never taken so long


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 8:20 pm
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Well, that is mega-shit...!!

Picked up my Tacx Flow Smart today from Halfords....drove home like it was Christmas day again, ate dinner as fast as possible, open the box and no qr skewer, no bolts to fasten the roller gubbins to the stand and no Allen key.

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So, I guess there is a bag of bits missing from the box....unless I am being massively stupid and/or they are extremely well hidden....

It's like Mum's just confiscated my Sega Master System all over again!!
Dunno whether to get in touch with Halfords, or see if Tacx can get the bits in the post to me....


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 9:28 pm
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I've not got much luck with zwift it seems! Signed up and logged into the 6pm figure of 8 race and 10km my laptop decided to drop a windows update and turned itself off!!


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 9:46 pm
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16.2km race seemed a better performance to me, better stroke, cadence, energy and breathing.


 
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How did you get on in the WBR TT Weeksy (position)? I didn't see you, apologies if you said hi. My friend (who's a cat 2 and did a 50 mile cycle this morning) just got a vortex so the plan was to show him who's boss on Watapoia. It didn't work as he came 3rd ha:

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Turns out having these realism settings:
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Is not efficient for racing, particularly flat and on descents - so I've brought them back down to around 60%.

Anyway I'll be doing gentle pootles Thurs/Fri evening from 7pm if anyone wishes to join & you're a nutter Weeksy for doing both TTs ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 10:10 pm
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I was 5 places behind your screenshot, approx 1 min off your pace.


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 10:16 pm
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Just did my 1st group ride. Supposed to be sub 3. For some stupid reason I did it on rollers. People going way above that. I had to go over 4 anyways I went and fell off and nursing a. V. Sore wrist!!!
Moral - don't zwift group rides on rollers!!! ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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I was 5 places behind your screenshot, approx 1 min off your pace.

Very nice, you're mental for doing both and looks like you got a good position too! I struggled to do a 10 mile cool down after that race.

Definitely not doing anything strenuous for the next couple of days ready for Saturday, where I won't be launching attacks from the back again (x4) ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 04/01/2017 10:57 pm
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First one was just a bit of fun to see if I could push on a bit, but its all my weaknesses rolled into one race really. Race 2 was a stronger race for me in theory and I actually felt better with it. I just wanted to mix it up compared to a usual ride, especially as I'm on my first 600cal fasting day today. I have to admit, I can't wait for sleep as I'm hungry now!

P.s good luck for Sat


 
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Morning lads and lasses. Thanks to Weeksy, Nathb and others who have contributed to this thread. Did my first proper ride on Zwift last night and whilst its very odd, I really enjoyed it. Was only the Sub 2.0 group ride but had a bit of a sprint and a race at the end so a decent work out for me. Couple of questions:
1. There's a bit of a lag (2-3 seconds I think) between me increasing power and my avatar closing the gap. Can I improve this through changing the way the power is measured?
2. Is there any way of seeing results for a group ride. Just interested in where the people I rode with finished etc. Doesn't seem to show on ZwiftPower as it wasn't a race.
3. How do these group rides compare to the Cat D KISS races?


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 10:37 am
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You can set your power at either instant or 3 sec average in your profile. When in zwift ride, stop, hit the menu, then middle/left/top, you've got a little pencil icon.... in there...

KISS D Race, it's complex because of DQ's, but lets say for example if you ignore them who get DQ'd, then you'll want to be right near the limit of 2.5w/kg to be winning. But anything around 2.0 average will get you people to race. Racing can be a lot about tactics, knowing when to push on, when to hold a group and potentially when to ease up to jump on a group coming up etc. It takes a little practice at times and a little thought. Sometimes you'll get a power up and hit it just right and be shoving along and gap someone by 4-5sec, then when you get that gap you suddenly fine a nice rider putting out say 2.8w/kg and next thing you're 15s clear of the guy you were battling but only putting out 2.1w/kg at the time.


 
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@weeksy - you did 2 races with only 600 calories intake for the day? I'm burning 660 calories on a 13 mile TT race ๐Ÿ˜†

Like I said, you're mental haha.

Thanks for the luck, I'll need it! Be interesting to see what my real world racing power stats say compared to Zwift!


 
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Thanks Weeksy. The group rides are a good way of getting an hour tempo ride but I think I'll need to be racing to bring about improvements in fitness/power. This might get addictive...


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 11:14 am
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It's what i do Nath, Crosshair gives me banter/abuse by the bucketload for it, but it's me and it's what i feel works for me. Whether it's the best training, the best diet or the best 'plan' is of course open to debate. But this riding/eating lark is as much about what you can maintain as anything else. It's all well and good having the best intentions/plans but if you give up on them after a month, then you're still giving up on them. What i do i feel i can maintain/continue, so it's what i do ๐Ÿ™‚

speaking of which, i've got to get ready as i've got the ECC Fritter Friday ride in 20 mins time, it's a 60 min social ride with 2.4/2.5 average.. We'll see if it actually is that.. or if we're knocking out 3 everywhere as these social rides seem to end up being.

I was going to enter the KISS Americas race in Cat D... If this Fritter Friday goes off at 3.0+ then i will probably bail early on and enter the KISS in D....

SlowP, it does get addictive mate yes...Racing without doubt brings out the competitive edge within blokes and you find places/speed/HRs you never thought you could get to..


 
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It's what i do Nath, Crosshair gives me banter/abuse by the bucketload for it, but it's me and it's what i feel works for me. Whether it's the best training, the best diet or the best 'plan' is of course open to debate. But this riding/eating lark is as much about what you can maintain as anything else. It's all well and good having the best intentions/plans but if you give up on them after a month, then you're still giving up on them. What i do i feel i can maintain/continue, so it's what i do

Yeah I ain't knocking mate, got to stick with what works for you. It's why fad diets nearly always fail, they're so out of normal routine that when you go back to normal you pile the kg back on. When I started my fitness journey I was knocking out 50 mile morning cycles without eating - I had a lot of reserves back then. ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 05/01/2017 12:23 pm
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Adding structure to your week won't take any more effort- that's the stupidity of it!!

I once got offered a job and before I started, I asked around a few contacts what the bloke was like who I'd be working with. The answer I got sums up your training.
"Never has a man worked so hard, day and night, to achieve absolutely f#%k all!" ๐Ÿ˜€

10/10 for effort, 1/10 for common sense ๐Ÿ˜€

Must stop biting......


 
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How on earth does one draft?!!
A new User, I have two scenarios:
1. Utterly beast myself but still can't close the gap, watch them cruise into the distance
2. Ease up to coast in behind but end up still just smashing passed people going too slow

A 20min FTP test only put me at a poor 201 watts but only weighing 59kg put my w/kg at around 3.4


 
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haha @crosshair - I get the feeling you've had this conversation with weeksy before ๐Ÿ˜†

Problem with structured training, and I guess it's the same with the pros. You take something you love (cycling), you structure it so much that it becomes a chore and your body reacts to it in that way so your numbers start plumeting and so does your morale. At our no pro level it's a fine balance.

There's times where I have been sat on the bike thinking I actually don't enjoy this anymore, in fact before Zwift & Hillingdon it's exactly where I was at!


 
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