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I had a browse around the STW team results on ZwiftPower .. never looked on there before.
It seems a bit suspicious that you got a couple riders at, or just over, 60kg ... me being the suspicious person I am - it seems a tad suspicious when I see 5`10 guys down as weighing less than 9 and a half stone ... of course there are stick insects about; but does make you think eh?
You've seen the weigh in videos right...
I feel you're about to fall into the full madness of Zwift racing.
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I just dont see the point of weight, height .. or even Tron bike doping
I've got the Tron bike and trust me, it makes no detectable difference to anything. As far as I can tell, the only real differences are between 'normal' bikes and TT ones. The TT ones are slightly quicker on descents and slightly faster on the flat, BUT they don't draft, so you lose any benefits from that and aren't permitted in most races.
If you want full on reality, go for a ride in the real world. Zwift is littered with people kicking out improbably power to weight figures for extended periods of time. Folk lie about their weight. Have shite, inaccurate trainers that they don't calibrate. And probably dope as well...
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You’ve seen the weigh in videos right…
I feel you’re about to fall into the full madness of Zwift racing.
Sign up to the Facebook Zwift Racer page.
Weigh in videos? nope not seen those.
I safe from the Zwift racing madness. As said - only my own stats important to me. Leaving for work at 7am and not getting home till 6pm 5 days a week means this time of year I have little time to ride outside - and very little energy to ride in doors to be honest - so zwift is very much a couple short tough training sessions/races during week to hopefully keep some fitness for the trip to Gran Canaria end of March; and maybe a longish ride on weekend.
I dont do Facebook etc; thats as fake as a lot of the zwiftpower results!
62kg for me, wish I weighed more. It's not so easy shopping looking for trousers that fit tall and slim, should be a 30 inch waist but they don't exist in many places and end up buying 32's. My Zwift weight is linked to my Fitbit scales, so it updates after every weigh in. A few more kg would help on the windy days which there seem to be more of lately.
Mooman - you do realise zwift is just blokes playing video games in their garage! You keep telling us you are only interested in your own data but you seem quite interested in what everyone else is doing or riding,just sayin. Take it all with a pinch of salt and remember its better than nothing.
@blader1611 I struggling to see how you come to that conclusion. Rereading my posts it seems clear I only interested in my own data ... I have numerous times said I don’t belong in the A group, but enter in there because that’s where zwiftpower places me.
I can only assume your one of the 2 fellas in the STW team who stating their 5’10 and just over 9 stone ... just saying.
I can only assume your one of the 2 fellas in the STW team who stating their 5’10 and just over 9 stone … just saying.
It's just as well that you're 'only interested in your own data' 🙂
today 18:15 Flanders De Ronde Race (B) up the epic kom climb, doesn't go up to the radio tower, then down and into the jungle and back out
too many pancakes, too hot, too knackered, did crap, sprint against 1 other gave me some power pbs for everything between 4-51seconds, so not a total write off, 34/37 in B - but it was always going to be that
I can only assume your one of the 2 fellas in the STW team who stating their 5’10 and just over 9 stone … just saying.
I imagine that’s Njee and his twin brother, perhaps the 10 inches could be a typo of course 😉
Not completely Zwift related but as per topic heading this was more about my general health too
This week I've been using a blood pressure monitor from the docs as I had a couple of borderline readings.
Back in 2011 I was getting 180/155 even when fairly fit.
Average this week is 138/82 which as you can imagine makes me happy.
For info, my HR this morning was 41 at work.
Sadly my weight still sits higher than I want, but the causes and reasons are there for all to see on my plate each day lol.
41! I assume the doctor is falling over themselves to find out what is wrong with you.
HR is all individual I'm just under 50 at complete rest. Generally if I'm mid 50s when sitting I'm happy.
I imagine that’s Njee and his twin brother, perhaps the 10 inches could be a typo of course 😉
thought he was in the fat dad club? 🙂
@dirtyrider you can offically downgrade to C if you wanted and get some cups.
41! I assume the doctor is falling over themselves to find out what is wrong with you
Nope, it's always been low. This evening was just on 50 for the tests, I bet you'd be in the 40s in the morning too if you try.
He was a little worried with the BP but I'm more than happy with the results I've been getting.
Back in the early part of the decade my gym wouldn't let me train.
Nice reduction weeksy 👍
41! I assume the doctor is falling over themselves to find out what is wrong with you.
ummmm is that bad? just had a look at my health data on my apple watch and I'm regularly in the very low 40's, was 40 this afternoon for instance
No no just doctors generally don't see people with a really low HR and have been known to be concerned.
HR is also purely individual. Literally nothing can be taken from a comparison between two people. Some probably reasonably accurate assumtions could be made. ie resting heart rate in the 70/80s does not indicate a trained endurance athlete but it's possible.
I know nothing about blood pressure other than whatever mine is is fine.
Ended up doing the race last night, as usual I tried to stay with the front group but ended up being in the second group (totally smashed!). Eventually got dropped and rode with an Italian rider who wouldn't (or couldn't) do any work. Was around 50th overall until a large group caught us in the last couple of kms, ended up 63rd overall and in my usual position in the B's (towards the back). Recorded a new ftp which was surprising.
To add to the discussions above, I genuinely don't understand what people get from cheating on Zwift, they must have very low self esteem.
nice going Weeksy - that's a massive change !
I've signed up to Zwift and had 2 rides... forgot how hard work it is
Is it just me or has DD destroyed most attacks. Even in none DD races there seems very little appetite for attacks off the front at the moment. Even when I tried one last night we an aero so could have towed people along there were no really bites (sadly I'm not strong enough to go alone off the front).
I did the kiss choice short night. A cagey affair as hinted in with no attacks of note. The big lead group divided a few times on the back straight climb (6 train) but other than till the last lap not much happened. I tried an attack on lap 4 after the hill but got realed back in. Unfortunately I blew up at the top of this hill on lap 3. The lead 10 or so started to pull away and instead of popping my aero to catch I stubbornly hung onto it for the sprint. Costly mistake as I got dropped. Ended up with two others who also appeared spent. Aero at 0.6k was enough to gap without needing to sprint. Tired legs now. Think I need some rest days.
https://www.zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=100161731
Lol at Dirtyrider...
TBH Nixie at many levels it doesn't even register to me if it's DD or not... Whether that's before or during the race LOL. Not actually sure how many i enter that have DD as a feature. Today i'm WFH so i think a slightly early lunch for the 10:45 The Morning Grind Fondo P/B DIRT & Indoor Specialist. 4 laps of classique with proper split starts at 1min intervals. One thing i dislike on racing is where the super fast Cs jump in with the Bs... i'd rather have just Cs..So that 1 min should mean it's a pretty fair race... pay your money take your chance.
My RHR has dropped from low 60's to low 50's (sometimes high 40's) in the past year and most of the fitness gain has come from Zwift. I have also lost a couple of stone in that time. Still haven't done any Zwifting for a couple of weeks!
Mooman - sadly i am not 9 stone either in zwift or real life. All i was pointing out was the fact that you checked everyone on stw yet were only bothered about your own data. I wasnt having a go at you but apologise if it came across like that. I too only zwift to better myself but i do take an interest in how my races went and to my direct competitors. Anyway moving on....
Weeksy thats good news on the BP. That hr is impressive, I wish i could get mine that low when it came to a race, i might get back on the podiums.
LOL racing is a different game. my HR goes up for that.
Especially today as i've got one of the Kings of C is racing with me in 14 min.
0.8s off at the line, i had to close a gap that was opening after Horseguards on the run down to the hairpin... i then hung in as best i could, but i don't have the killer edge in last 500m
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https://www.zwiftpower.com/events.php?zid=162128
That is a great effort Weeksy, i suspect if it was anything like the B race then the dirt boys work as a team to shell out non dirt riders. So for you to be in the bunch sprint is a tremendous effort. I was in the B race and i listened in to discord and the dirt riders were working in small groups to keep attacking to soften everyone up. IT was a brutal race but i hung on until about a mile out when the group split up a bit. I was 20s behind the winner which i was pleased with as it was my highest avg watts for a race since getting the wahoo.
Not sure about any tactics from them, I had a crack 3 times though, kicked off the front and tried to split it up taking only a few with me, but each time the bunch caught us/me.
We had Bath Salts in our race, who seems to be under scrutiny from the zada guys
https://www.zwiftpower.com/profile.php?z=62302
Each time up horseguards he pinned it at 6-7w/kg so I had to kick hard and find that. In the other flat bits I was pretty much cruising, 162 average isn't a killer, especially as the last 2km was where my average would have gone up as it was tough.
I enjoyed myself and worked hard, which is what I do it for.
Bath salts is banned by ZwiftPower for being a d##k and using an A rider a domestique.
He didn't use one today. He's a clever rider though in races and hides well. But has the power to get out of trouble too. It's a tactic I try as much as possible although not as much today as you can find yourself suddenly 2s behind if 1 wheel in front misses a surge, so last lap I tried to sit has far up as possible until horseguards, which is pretty much where the race exploded
At least you took it to them, i didnt have the legs to do any attacking. Had a few pr’s on my ride so it was quick, i avgd 430w on each horseguards hill segment for all 6 laps,this might explain why the sprint at the end was not that sprinty. I won the sprint for the group immediately behind the front bunch but i only maxed at 786w and that was very brief indeed.
I had PRs which considering i've ridden and raced for example the last KM over 150 times, that's pretty good for me 🙂
HOrsegaurds was 415w, 443w, 408w, and 453w on the last lap... So i'm putting in the effort 🙂
Happy with a PR on last KM, 338w.... but sadly only 465w for the Mall Sprint it seems.
Max power according to Strava was 605w.... but i rekon that was Horseguards, not the sprint.
I am not entirely sure if i would have kept up with the C’s looking at your race. May be ours was a little slower as we did 2 extra laps plus after all the early attacks by DIRT were nullified we all probably burnt a fair amount of matches. I was thinking of dropping to C for a race or 2 as i have been finishing around 3/3.1 of late.
Slightly off topic but is Wahoo support ok to deal with as i may have an issue with my core. I have fired them an email so i will see how i get on.
Slightly off topic but is Wahoo support ok to deal with as i may have an issue with my core. I have fired them an email so i will see how i get on
Decent but US based so timezone an issue
What's everyones wattage like for sprints? Max sprint numbers?
60kg
I weigh 60kg and I'm 5'10'. It's just my body shape. BMI of 19, which is in the normal range - as far as anything to do with BMI can be considered normal.
I'm sure there's loads of weight doping going on. Don't forget though that the heavier rider goes faster in Zwift...
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I’m sure there’s loads of weight doping going on. Don’t forget though that the heavier rider goes faster in Zwift…
Not really. On medium to steep climbs speed's pretty much a function of power to weight ratio, but the flat where air resistance is the determining factor, it's mostly about outright power, so heavier riders - if they put out more watts - tend to have an advantage. On climbs, it's the other way round. If you lied about being lighter than you actually are, you'll pretty much go the same speed on the flat, but be faster on climbs.
People on Zwift who think w/kg is a way of standardising pace on a group ride haven't really thought it through, though it would theoretically work if everyone set their virtual weight to an identical figure...
Don’t forget though that the heavier rider goes faster in Zwift…
Only if they have the power to go with it.
On climbs, it’s the other way round. If you lied about being lighter than you actually are, you’ll pretty much go the same speed on the flat, but be faster on climbs.
Absolutely. But I get dropped on flat rides in B, let alone A, so I would think it's not difficult to figure out who's cheating.
And it's not just weight doping, you'll see there's a consistent winner in B who veeerrrryyyy carefully keeps his 95% power fractionally below 250W (yet maintains kg/W of 4.5+) to ensure that he never gets bumped up into A.
I enjoy it because it's fun and I'm far more motivated in a workout when I'm racing someone else.
What’s everyones wattage like for sprints? Max sprint numbers?
1286 peak, 986 15 seconds, 871 30 seconds.
BUT 79kgs 🙁
I keep just below C limits, but mostly because I can't average more than 265w for any length of time
@blader1611 - I have entered as STW team, but not actually looked around Zwiftpower options around what details etc it shows about the team before.
But read on here about height doping - which I’d never heard about before - so had a flick through the STW team stats ... specifically looking at the other A cat riders there; which only showed 2 others besides myself at the time; and as said; maybe my suspicious nature picked up on their weight & height because of the mention on here about height doping.
Until zwiftpower start giving prize money, and I get good enough to be at the sharp end to be in with a chance of winning it ... then I not care if anybody/everybody drops 10kg and 12inchs from their race profile.
@flaperon I did not intend to accuse you of doping; appols for my often lack of forethought.
Kryton I dream of 79kg. I'm 96!