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Good for you but I'm guessing theres more to your current circumstances than right place, right time . Could any other random person in the same position could do your job equally as well. If so you're probably being over paid.
The vast majority of UK citizens (who aren't political wonks and take varying degrees of interest) just roll their eyes when Corbyn is mentioned.
Well if you want to go down that road Corbyn is seen by voters more positively than Keir Starmer is. According to a recent YouGov poll this month :
Jeremy Corbyn: 25% favourable, 63% unfavourable, giving him a net favourability score of -38.
Keir Starmer: 21% favourable, 72% unfavourable, for a net favourability score of -51.
A quarter of voters having a favourable opinion of Corbyn is surprisingly high, voters these days tend to have really quite negative opinions of politicians in general.
Which politicians do you believe are currently significantly more popular with voters than Corbyn?
Which politicians do you believe are currently significantly more popular with voters than Corbyn?
Nigel Farage. Which is the problem with splitting the non-Reform vote.
On a party level, I would expect Labour to still be ahead of whatever Corbyn's group becomes known as. There is no way on this earth that the rump of people Corbyn would need to convince (boring, 25-50s, run of the mill, professionals) will vote for someone with no credibility. He was made to look a tit when he was Labour leader. His dithering over Brexit, second referendum etc shredded whatever mainstream credibility he might have had. The RW press did the rest. He lost a general election to Boris Partygate Johnson by a good margin.
I'm sure he still has appeal in some niches. Wet behind the ears student types and the odd ideologue here and there. As a politician of clear principles, on a personal level at least, he appeals to me. But mention his name in conversation with most normal folk out there and you're 90% certain to get one of two reactions - a snort of derision or the question "who?"
His mainstream appeal is so low that if he has any success (however that might be defined) it will only be at a level which will harm the anti-Reform vote. Maybe it is time that the people got what they seem to want in Farage and Reform. Maybe they need a Reform government to see with their own eyes how nothing will change for them. But I don't want anything to hasten it. And I worry that the ground of bigotry and prejudice is so fertile that Farage could do the double - win in 2029, make people poorer, and still convince them to blame another enemy and win again.
What we really need is a Labour leader who will stand up and say how things really are and provide a positive way forward - especially when it comes to our only option politically and economically - Europe.
But Starmer won an election and lost his bottle.
Yeah, Starmer, WTF....
I voted for him, and technically I got what I wanted, he's not as bad as the tories, so I'm 'happy' in that respect.
But it's not a great plus, being slightly less shit than utterly diabolical.
The bar is not high.
But we are where we are...
Which politicians do you believe are currently significantly more popular with voters than Corbyn?
Nigel Farage.
Well Nigel Farage is not significantly more popular with voters than Corbyn.
In fact in this YouGov poll Nigel Farage net favourability rating is identical to Jeremy Corbyn's.
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/52973-political-favourability-ratings-september-2025
Six in ten Britons (59%) have an unfavourable opinion of the former Labour leader, down three points since June, giving Corbyn a net favourability rating of -31, identical to Reform UK leader Nigel Farage’s score.
Don't confuse how popular politicians are with voters and how well their respective parties do.
On a personal level Farage is as unpopular as Corbyn and Starmer is more unpopular than either of them.
If you want to criticise Corbyn I would suggest that going down the popularity road is probably not the best tactic 💡
That's the crazy thing... Starmers government seem to be be fighting shadows rather than actually governing.
Don't confuse how popular politicians are with voters and how well their respective parties do.
Even amongst people I see online who id expect to view him favourably, I see a fair amount of "he is the only one saying the right things" (in their view). So there's plenty of room (in that anecdotal sample) for people holding their noses and voting for someone they don't think much of on a personal level
Well, we will see in 2029, won't we...
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Sadly there are still plenty people - and some notable ones on here - who think anyone earning 50k+ is rolling in cash and can afford to pay ever increasing amounts of tax.
They are amongst the richest 15 % in our society. You are so detached from reality its no longer funny
More like top 25% and salary doesn't equate to rich.
A two income household earning 35k each would have significantly more income and pay less tax than one individual on 50k. Someone earning 72k gross is just in the top 10% but has way more in common with people on an average salary than the top 1%.
of course it does. and its not 25% unless I read the stats wrong. Jeepers you folk are so detached from reality
https://www.statista.com/statistics/416102/average-annual-gross-pay-percentiles-united-kingdom/
Care to share your sources? Anyway can't be bothered to argue with you, we will just go around in circles and you've shown from your posts over the years that your own experiences are somewhat limited resulting in some rather odd ideas of what's normal.
you can't figure out why someone could be in the top 25% of earning and still not be rich?
you can't figure out why someone could be in the top 25% of earning and still not be rich?
Summed up best by Edmund Blackadder, butler to the Prince Regent:
The whole world cries out, “Peace, Freedom, and a few less fat bastards eating all the pie.”
They are amongst the richest 15 % in our society.
Woohoo! Honestly this means f-all. The main thing you can take from that stat (if it's even correct) is that the vast majority of people are hugely underpaid for what they do. Never mind going after those who really are rich, lets just squeeze the people who are one or two rungs from being dirt poor. Sometimes TJ I think people who hold views as you do won't be happy until everyone is limping from bil to bill, drinking white cider and eating beans on toast every night. As long as we're all equally poor eh?
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Not a wind-up. Apparently it's true.
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So they’ve now got considerably more lawsuits against each other than actual members?
Impressive
Apparently not binners
They are amongst the richest 15 % in our society. You are so detached from reality its no longer funny
Something that I learnt listening to Zahra Sultana last night at a meeting, and which I had no idea about, is that Green Party councillors and MPs are not mandated to vote in a specific way and can exercise their own judgment.
Which renders the Green Party's much vaunted claim that "party members decide party policy" utterly meaningless.
Yes Green Party members decide party policy but when it comes to putting policy into actual practice Green councillors and MPs can simply ignore the Green Party policy and use their own judgement to vote however they fancy. Which I guess helps to explain some dodgy decisions made by Green Party councillors over the years.
There will be no tolerance of YP councillors and MPs ignoring party policy which will be decided by the membership, recall and mandatory reselection will guarantee that.
Having said all that I will not hesitate to vote Green in next year's local elections, as I did in the last local elections. YP won't be standing candidates in my part of the borough and there is absolutely no way that I would vote for a Tory-Lite/Reform-lite Labour Party.
Sorry, Sultana suggesting Greens can’t be trusted because they don’t always follow the party line! 🤣
She didn't say anything about "trust". She simply pointed out that Green councillors and MPs don't have to follow party policy, which obviously makes letting members decide party policy meaningless.
In contrast YP councillors and MPs, including herself, will have to vote in line with party policy.
If a "🤣" is justified at all it is with regards to the much vaunted claim that the Green Party is different because their members decide party policy.
Members decide party policy (local level and national level are different, but let’s ignore that for now), but councilors still need to serve their constituents, they are not and should not be automatons slavishly following the party machine on every single vote.
Sultana has always been individually minded, it’s one of her strengths. That’s the irony.
That’s the irony.
Oh no it isn't...
they are not and should not be automatons slavishly following the party machine on every single vote.
Party machine? We are talking about party policy, and that rule applies to Green MPs as well as Green councillors. What is the point of allowing party members to decide party policy if it can be simply ignored whenever a Green MP or councillor fancies? None, I would suggest.
And I have no idea why you are suggesting Zahra Sultana wouldn't toe the party line, she will have to, even if she is leader. Quite right too.
Sultana had the Labour whip removed not because she went against Labour Party policy but because she went against the policy of Keir Starmer/Morgan McSweeney/Rachel Reeves to keep the Tory child benefit policy
The UK political situation would not be so absolutely dire today (unless you are a Reform supporter) if the Labour leader wasn't allowed to totally ignore the party membership. How many party members (what's left of them) support the policies of the current Labour government? Do you not think there are lessons to be learnt? The power and control of the party leader is grotesque.
That’s the irony.
Oh no it isn't...
Oh it is. Zahra Sultana had the Labour whip removed because she refused to support a very Tory policy.
You don't get much more ironic than that.
You don't get much more ironic than that.
You do if...
It's behind you...
Yes Green Party members decide party policy but when it comes to putting policy into actual practice Green councillors and MPs can simply ignore the Green Party policy and use their own judgement to vote however they fancy.
So MP's and councillors vote for what is best for their constituents who returned them into power, or what their green principles suggest is the correct course of action.
Sounds ****ing great to be honest. I'd definitely vote for that.
So MP's and councillors vote for what is best for their constituents who returned them into power,
Brilliant!......so Green MPs and councillors don't necessarily believe that Green Party policies are the best for the constituents!!!!!!!!! Hahahaha hahahaha🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
Brilliant!......so Green MPs and councillors don't necessarily believe that Green Party policies are the best for the constituents!!!!!!!!! Hahahaha hahahaha🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
If you are going to have a FPTP system then it's really the only way a party should be run.
With FPTP, your constituents are voting for YOU to represent them. Your first loyalty should be to your constituents, not the party.
There is a difference between a policy and the implementation of a policy. A policy should be a goal and a rough idea of how to actually achieve it. The more concrete your implementation plan the more likely it is to fall apart when it comes face to face with reality
As an MP or councillor you shouldn't be afraid to go against the implementation of policies if they are going to disproportionally harm your constituents.
Or we could just ditch FPTP.
Apparently the most heard adjective on the doorsteps of Caerphilly during the recent by -election campaign was the word "betrayal". Indeed a sense of betrayal goes to the very heart of the unprecedented collapse of support for the Labour government nationally. It would appear some people have learnt nothing.
And it begs two questions, firstly how do you expect to convince voters that your party's policies are the correct ones if you can't even convince yourself?
Secondly what is the actual point of a general election manifestos if when elected they are simply ignored?
The Green Party should stop spouting this nonsense that " members decide policy" when in reality it is anyone who wins an election who decides policy.
May be better if all MPs were independent forcing the constituents to actually pick MPs who they think are most capable of representing their area rather then the party they represent. Would need a central committee who gather policy ideas and those polices get voted in/out by the MPs. Ministers would be chosen based on the skills of the MPs .
A society where all political parties were banned would be excellent imo, and perhaps one day that will be achieved. But until human society reaches that level of development we have to deal with the reality as it presently exists.
It's very illustrative that Sultana is spending her time slagging off the Green party rather than Labour and the Tories. Honestly these idiots just can't help themselves can they? Where is binners when we need him?
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I’ll tell you what… they’re a litigious lot, these lefties, aren’t they? They’re taking out lawsuits faster than Donald Trump.
Who'd have thunk it that Jeremy Corbyn would end up as the toast of the London legal profession? 😂
It's very illustrative that Sultana is spending her time slagging off the Green party rather than Labour and the Tories.
Yep, as I said yesterday, she is not going to get anywhere and neither is Corbyn. Not sure another Left party is really even needed if the Green Party carry on going in the direction they are.
It's very illustrative that Sultana is spending her time slagging off the Green party rather than Labour and the Tories
Greens ahead of both in latest polling.
So it comes to all left / centre parties to stand aside now. 😉 Tactically we all need to get behind them now otherwise we might let Labour back in.
Good grief.
That all changed yesterday. Feinstein et al persuaded Sultana to take over the company so they could get the hell away from it, that party, and all the internal squabbling.
Good grief.
Marching on to the revolution, one lawsuit at a time. 🙂
Honestly it's this sort of shite that stopped me ever getting involved in organised party politics whether it was the socialist workers or the labour party.
That lawsuits article needs to be viewed in conjunction with this one - just to complete the Your Party masterful media experience:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyv8j231yv7o
That lawsuits article needs to be viewed in conjunction with this one
Nah, there's nowt wrong with politicians not taking things too seriously and being able to laugh at themselves. How much more leeway do we think Starmer and Reeves would get if they weren't such humourless, dour-faced patronising technocrats? Voters want their politicians to be real people, not emotionally stilted automatons.