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After last months fiasco with the rent from my tenants not been paid on time and then finally being paid by the garuntors wife 2 weeks late I thought i would give my letting agent a call today, a week after it was due and surprise surprise they haven't paid the rent again.
The letting agent got her admin staff to call the tenants whilst I was on the phone to her and spoke to the girl who said "oh, my partner normally pays the rent, hasnt he done it !!) FFS you know he hasnt as he hasnt been working (according to my father in law who spoke to her )
Section 21 has already been served and they are due to leave in feb however my agent told me today that if they dont want to move out then they dont have to ?????????????? whats the point of having a contract if this is the case??
apparently as long as they stay less than 2 months in arrears with their rent then I cannot issue them a section 8???
Can someone please lend me a set of really old and heavy bombers!!!!!
seriously ... what can I do?
Send the boys round. Or as per last time get in touch with the guarantor and ask how they feel about having a ccj against them?
i take it you've already wee'd in their shoes..?
Send TJ round.....
Section 21 has already been served and they are due to leave in feb however my agent told me today that if they dont want to move out then they dont have to ?????????????? whats the point of having a contract if this is the case??
apparently as long as they stay less than 2 months in arrears with their rent then I cannot issue them a section 8???Can someone please lend me a set of really old and heavy bombers!!!!!
seriously ... what can I do?
Have a good Christmas.
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Pucker up, take the inevitable abuse in here for being a [i] rentier [/i], and give your letting agent a hard time for the quality of the tenant
Change your name to rentoff?
Mate please tell me what you pay the letting agent for?? Why did they wait until you called them to chase up the rent.
thanks Don simon 🙄
mactheknife Ive been asking myself that since I phoned them earlier!!!
such are the pitfalls of entering into a high risk business arrangement whereby you end up with a nice lump of collateral and/or an income for very little effort.
someone should have told you that capitalism doesn't mind who it kicks in the arse.
Capitalist pig!
Come the revolution...
thanks Don simon
Might I sugggest you stop whinging and learn to take the rough with the smooth.
Wanting someone on the street over the festive because you want a couple of quid season does make you look like a [can't say what I want for fear of moderation].
MUAK.
Might I sugggest you stop whinging and learn to take the rough with the smooth.
Wanting someone on the street over the festive because you want a couple of quid season does make you look like a [can't say what I want for fear of moderation].
MUAK.
Who has said anything about wanting them on the street over xmas ffs??
all i would like is for them to pay the rent on time as per the contract they signed to say they would ??
Tool !
Section 21 has already been served and they are due to leave in feb
Doesn't sound like you want them to stay, does it?
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You've taken a risk hoping to make a profit, you can't be arsed to manage it yourself and now you're complaining because it's gone tits up.
AWESOME.
Sack teh agent - tehy clearly are a complete waste of time. Save the fees
Go to the guarantor and tell them
Just chill until feb. At least you have a guarantor which means you should get your money eventually.
Unfortunatly there is only bad news.
having been a landlord - there is not much you can do...
do you have landlords / tenancy insurance? if so contact them and find out when you can start claiming for missed rent.
they could squat in the property for years if they choose to. legal battles to get tennents out are generally long, hard and difficult.
You could go round and offer them £500 to move out tonight.
It can be cheaper doing this in the long run....
I can answer your questions.
Email me if you want to
Go round and get your money pretty simple
no idea why your crying here !
Doesn't sound like you want them to stay, does it?You've taken a risk hoping to make a profit, you can't be arsed to manage it yourself and now you're complaining because it's gone tits up.
AWESOME.
erm ok , I didnt want to manage it myself as I have never rented out a property before so thought I would pay proffesionals to manage it for me.
never intended to make a profit on the house, we actually lived in it for 3 years and its only due to being relocated with my job and not been able to sell it to make enough to cover what I owed on the mortgage that we decided to let it out.
Actually you are not a Tool as Tools can be useful !!!!
Go round and get your money pretty simple
no idea why your crying here !
not allowed to do that as it would get me into a lot of trouble !!
Actually you are not a Tool as Tools can be useful !!!!
As I said I hope you can get over the hardship and have a happy Christmas.
my agent told me today that if they dont want to move out then they dont have to
If they've been served notice then I think they're obliged to move out; if they don't move out after the notice period then you may have a case for an eviction order, but in the meantime I suggest you put a rocket under the agent's arse, or get a new agent. They're not doing much of a job from what you've told us.
I'm not a lawyer, I'm an ex-landlord, so this ^ may not be completely accurate. Seriously, drop Steve Austin a line
I'm so glad I finally sold the house I was letting out.
Steve Austin you have an email !!
Will you give them back their deposit if they come with a good story 😉
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shame the house is not in bristol me,misses and little one have had to move 4 times in the last year due to being messed about by landlords offering long agreements but then giving notice to move finaly settled in a new flat on out first 6month lease but being offerd a 3 year after that thankfully our landlord is well into the letting game and no intrest in selling up.
there are decent tenents out there its just a waiting game untill a proffesional family/couple comes allong and its easy sailing
p.s i have some VERY heavy old suntour xcm's if there any use to u.
Don't EVER let to anyone who doesn't qualify for rent guarantee insurance.
Above all else, the insurance means the insurer handles the eviction, COVERS THE LEGAL COSTS, and pays the missing rent
rp16v.... i would a family to move in and live there hassle free for years. just got to find that family.
cheers
steve
@ mactheknife - hows it going gerry !!
Stop whinging, let them catch up with the rent arrears, you say they've been served, well let them move out without you whining like a 4 yr old..
Landlords eh....
From experience there are proffesional non payers, ones who pay the first months rent and then delay, or damage something, eg the boiler, so you get it fixed, and it breakks again, so you get it fixed, next you get a letter from a solicitor saying the boiler is /was faulty, and asking for damages to to the tennants, then they refuse to pay the rent, nest something else goes wrong usaully a door lock or door,sometimes the electrics,they then send another solicitors letter.
Eventually you go round and offer them a load of cash to move out and wipe out the arrears.
Or they just dont pay rent, and keep going to court and pleading poverty to the judge,who lets them stay for a few more weeks,eventually you get to send in the bailiffs, and find various wires cut, water pipes leaking etc.Thats after they have done a moonlight flit.
LOL @ pop, we love karma 😀
From experiance there are some pretty damn fine tenants too, those who care about where they live, what they live in and who the landlords are that they rent off.
Not every one on this planet wants/chooses to own a property.
Don't tarnish the many with the annoying few.
Landlords know what they are getting into when they decide to let out thier property, if they didn't they would possibly choose something else do do with it.
The Law is always on the tenants side to protect them from opresive landlords, of which there have been far too many, hence all the Law surrounding tenants rights. If landlords in the past hadn't been so opresive then the Law would be equal, it isn't because too many landlords in the past have chosen to "go round and harrase them" until they "pay up".
A good Letting Agent is hard to come by, they exsist, maybe you chose a cheap one and are now paying the price, who knows, but from what you've said the tenants seem to be in an awkward position financially and you've chosen the only route you feel is open to you. Let the Law be enforced then if thats what you want to do.
If you don't want to let out your property don't. It's really that simple.
Bikebouyy - the law is on the landlords side. It used to be on the tenent side with secure tenancies and regulated rents but not for 25 years
The Law is on the tenants side.
One door closes, another one opens.
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nice landlords and nice tennants, bad landlords and bad tennants dont usually find each other, its sometinmes good and bad, and thats where problems start.
ALWAYS CHASE THE DEBT.
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Landlords know what they are getting into when they decide to let out thier property, if they didn't they would possibly choose something else do do with it.
not all landlords go into this out of choice. in renton's case he couldn't sell it for what he paid for it, in my case I simply couldn't sell it full stop.
So you take the next best option, which is to get it rented out so at least the mortgage is covered - leaving it empty & still paying mortgage is rarely an option.
besides, another advantage of having someone living in it is that it's less likely to be broken into & have the wiring/copper piping/kitchen/bathroom stolen
Most tenants are good & conscientious (sp), but you only need one bad tenant to wreck the place, even if it's not deliberately. I had mine let for 8 years, the first 6 years without a hitch. The last tenant I had had dogs & didn't care where they cr@pped/p1ssed. He also got into a habit of paying late & eventually not paying at all. I don't think he did any damage deliverately, he simply didn't seem to care about the property.
Anyway, it's history now. I would NOT go into buy-to-let out of choice. once bitten & all that
Oh, and another thing - renton, you will need to declare the earnings to HMRC. The interest portion of the mortgage and the insurance is deductable so you're only due to pay tax on any [i]profits[/i] - if there are any. You'll have to fill in a tax return every year - takes me about 10-15 minutes online - and you'll probably still have to do it LONG after you've got rid of the property if my experience is anything to go by 😉
My LL is upset cos this place is now worth less than what he bought it for (right at the very tip-top of the market just before it went over and down the other side...). He looked into selling, was told to 'wait a bit the market is just in a temporary slump'.
Oh dear.
He's looking at £20-30k negative equity already. Oof.
[i]The value of your investments can go down as well as up.[/i]
Always read the small print....
My LL is upset cos this place is now worth less than what he bought it for
What, because you moved in ?
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I don't understand. A nice bloke rents out his place, is entitled to be paid and gets someone who can't keep their side of the bargain. And you give abuse to the guy getting screwed over? Jealousy?