But couldn’t get over the fact it’s a Passat with a wig !
Passat Estates are great cars - well the old one I had was. Always wanted an R36
I have to say that VW does look quite nice. Not a fan of that BMW SUV at all.
Ive got an X260 Jaguar Sportbrake - I love it.
Drives pretty nicely, happy to wag its tail a little when it’s damp, comfy to drive without being crashy over pot holes (I’ve got 255/45/19s on it) and the apply CarPlay works well / sound system is decent.
Relaxing place to be on the motorway. Mines the 250bhp 25t petrol version though (portfolio spec) - which is slightly slower then the 3litre v6 diesel but quicker than the 2l diesels.
Prior to that I had a 2 litre diesel 160bhp Jaguar XE - it drove nicely but the ingenium diesel sounds pretty agricultural and it had a thirst for adblue.
You'll get more shoot in the 'passat with a wig' than the BM.
That BMW is a lot of car for £40k. I’d have any day over a VW we lived our X1
The VW looses a lot of boot space because of the slope of the back window
The x3 will have a lot of useable bit space given the extra height. Winner all day long for me !
The VW looses a lot of boot space because of the slope of the back window
It's pretty cavernous tbh. And £16k cheaper than the X3.
4-motion version too
Heart says BMW, head says VW
Arteon looks like a very nice car that you could park anywhere and not worry about it too much
The X3 will be a drug dealers car after you're finished with it
Not a fan of soft roaders. Not anything they're good at
Saw 61mpg out of my 530d xdrive on the A9 last week. Eco and cruise on at 55mpg.... range on the tank was showing 804miles.
My mazda 6 does 35mpg...
But couldn’t get over the fact it’s a Passat with a wig !
So what? People keep saying that like it's a bad thing. Passats are good cars, Arteons are good cars with upgraded interior. Not seeing a problem.
Not a fan of soft roaders. Not anything they’re good at
If by soft roaders you mean normal cars with 4x4, they are very good at two particular niches. One is snowy roads, the other is pulling things out of soft fields. SUVs can do those things too but you get a load of unnecessary height and air resistance. Of course it's not good at off-roading but if you don't off-road then that's not a problem.
I like Arteons a lot by the way but of all the fancy estates they don't have air suspension at the back. Jags, BMWs and Mercs do. This is really useful for towing.
If by soft roaders you mean normal cars with 4×4,
Guessing it was probably aimed at the X3.
Re: air suspension. I do like air suspension, but there aren't any estates rated to tow my caravan (noseweight), so that will remain the job of the Disco. The X3 would probably be ok towing it, but still not rated for the noseweight
Other thing to consider is infotainment systems. BMW are know for being some of the best in the business.
Have to say that VW appears to be shocking in comparison in my wife’s VW, plus lots of grumps on here about VW systems
As a 2nd car the BM might be OTT, and I bet the tax is astronomical, but if you can afford it why not
Have to say that VW appears to be shocking in comparison in my wife’s VW, plus lots of grumps on here about VW systems
I am distinctly getting that impression and it's putting me off anything recent of VAG origin in my current car related pontification, that and the adverse comments about "lane assist" behaviour in rural driving.
I'll carry on muttering along in this thread - hopefully people only open it if they are interested.
The VW just didn't do it for me - so unresponsive when I put my foot down (strange, my experience of VW 2l Tdi's always led me to believe they were pokey) and the interior and tech made my teeth itch.
Decided if I liked that, I would have it as the sensible option and if not, I'd go for the BMW. Obviously didn't want the VW, so re-opened the enquiry about the Beemer, that had been available every day for weeks - sold!
Saw a Discovery I wanted. Available yesterday, wanted to go and see it today - sold. A Discovery makes a lot of sense for a family car that will sometimes be used for work.
Going to see this tomorrow, fully loaded
And if that's no good, might just engage mid life crisis mode and throw caution to the wind with this (very much not a diesel) RS Q3
Do love the Disco’s, HSE fully loaded and loads of fun, on and off road. Looking at the disco 5 as my next car to replace my 4. Tried several other big SUV’s and nothing really comes close.
had a go in the special Q7 and Q5 that was fun, but didn’t really like the cars and the family thought they were dark inside compared to the disco. All irrelevant details to this thread to be fair 🙂
As you said "go for the BiTDi" about an Audi and "Passats are great cars" then why not a Passat BiTDi?
The last of them will be about 3 yrs old and they're a bit more responsive than that Arteon would be.
As you said “go for the BiTDi” about an Audi and “Passats are great cars” then why not a Passat BiTDi?
The last of them will be about 3 yrs old and they’re a bit more responsive than that Arteon would be.
The 'old' Passat I had years ago was great for an older car. There wasn't enough I liked about the Arteon to make me want to explore anything similar. That said, if you'd given me an Arteon 10 years ago, I'd have been over the moon. Maybe I've just become too fussy
Do love the Disco’s, HSE fully loaded and loads of fun, on and off road. Looking at the disco 5 as my next car to replace my 4.
I have a D4 Commercial as a work truck. Had a D5 Commercial for 18 months which was lovely (not as much of a workhorse) but sold it back to JLR for the same money I paid for it brand new and currently back in the D4. Fancy a nicer D5 that won't get ruined on a muddy solar farm
Went with the Discovery in the end. I now own two Land rovers 😳
So, not a fast diesel estate....
Cracking motor. 7 seats (rear 2 disappear completely, all electric), deployable towbar, twin panoramic sunroof - front opening, full extended leather, 4-zone climate control, heated and cooled front massage seats with memory, heated rear seats, heated washer jets, heated windscreen, heated steering wheel, remote start for winter pre -heating, 1200w stereo, adaptive cruise control with queue assist, adaptive led matrix headlights, 360° cameras, driver assistance pack, off road pack, tow assist pack, park assist, head up display, virtual cockpit, carplay and Android auto, loads more stuff
Hope you have a good warranty with it 😉
Jlr make some lovely looking cars. But reliability woes have always put me off 🙁
Maybe you’ve got a good one !
Jlr make some lovely looking cars. But reliability woes have always put me off
138k on the white one with barely an issue - epb and maf sensor in the 5 years I've owned it (7-8 year old vehicle). You only generally see the bad stuff reported, people don't post about stuff that hasn't gone wrong
Went with the Discovery in the end. I now own two Land rovers 😳
So, not a fast diesel estate….
thats lovely. If it’s the 3 litre, it’s not exactly slow. Is it orange-esque in colour? haven't seen one in that colour round here. Very nice.
my 4 has the heated rear seats, it’s the benchmark my kids use to judge it’s replacement.
1200w stereo - is that enough power?
Parked on footpath; tut tut.
thats lovely. If it’s the 3 litre, it’s not exactly slow. Is it orange-esque in colour?
Yeah D300 - 0-60, 6.5s. Namib Orange. Looks lovely in the sun
Parked on footpath; tut tut.
No one uses it, everyone walks down the middle of the road, it's a cul de sac. Room to get a pushchair/wheelchair past anyway
Nice colour!
Good job there isn't a climate emergency eh?
I recently bought an F30 325d as I've never owned a bmw and I should before I end up in a box. It's excellent, always over 50mpg, 57 real mpg on a snowboarding trip to Austria at 90mph once in europe, quiet, quick, very balanced car to drive and cheap for a low milage minter. It'll probably last me until I no longer need a car.
Jlr make some lovely looking cars. But reliability woes have always put me off
+1
My eldest is head mechanic at a LR Service Centre, not one of the staff (except the Owners wife) runs a LR.
My OH has had two and after the second one failed (turbo at 80k), she still wanted another. His advice, "buy new/nearly-new on a LR Warranty, get rid when the warranty ends".
She got a Kia instead - loves the car, hates the badge.
Hope you have a good warranty with it 😉
And the insurance!
But reliability woes have always put me off
Yeah, i worked on the last "reliable" one. Even that was woeful compared to what i deal with now.
