I still struggle to see how any political party can make it stop raining.
The other observation is the papers/news/people in the street all slag off the government about how badly they have handled the floods, defecit, scotland vote etc. If so many people are unhappy with them, how did they get in to power?
hooli - MemberIf so many people are unhappy with them, how did they get in to power?
You do know they got into power with a minority, by convincing another party to sell their souls and betray all their voters? Voter dissatisfaction WAS shown in the election, you just can't tell because they act like they got a mugabe majority rather than being the best placed losers
I still struggle to see how any political party can make it stop raining.
Apparently they have something called Cobra meetings which makes it all better.
I love it when they have a Cobra meeting. Who wears the Destro mask?
just what I was thinking northwind!
I think there is a wider discussion to be had about political culpability in this - although Monbiot is a bit of a dick a lot of the time (and I speak as a political fellow traveller) he has some interesting stuff to say on the matter here: http://www.monbiot.com/2014/02/17/muddying-the-waters/
Which is worth looking at - deregulation of soil control measures on a crop/growing regime which is known to cause flooding? Surely not this government.
I would, but i'd vote for anyone, me. In fact it's a shame you can only vote for one, it'd be nicer if you could share it a bit
I'm happy to criticise the current government...but I honestly don't think they've done a huge amount wrong, not in the lead up to the floods anyway.
The rivers hadn't been dredged for decades. The EA and a host of other experts (CIWEM and others) said dredging wasn't the answer. But Eric Pickles said it was, so it became the only answer.
We've had an almost unprecendented amount of rain for month after month. That's what's caused the problem. If we were on the verge of a drought and somewhere was still flooded then yeah, start complaining. But when we've had a spell of freak weather we have to accept that it'll cause some problems. The only way to stop it would be a Dutch style decade-after-decade protection plan, not just dredging a river once in a while.
While the impact could likely have been lessened isn't it about time to admit that things aren't always going to stay the same as they were in the baby boomer golden age and that we're simply going to have to adapt to changing conditions? Nature doesn't have a status quo for long and we're in a time of change. The fact that we as humans may have accelerated that is incidental.*
I do wish one of the politicians would try and give a bit of perspective rather than constantly try to keep everyone sweet while actually doing nothing. As someone mentioned before, we'd surely be much better off with a visionary dictator than the current bunch of professional wind socks.
*I'll admit that I now, and will always try to, live on a hill and this probably makes me smug and self righteous but being born in Upton-in-Severn will tend to make you wise to this being a good idea.
Sure, I'll vote conservative. Over my cold, dead body!
Northwind - Member
hooli - Member
If so many people are unhappy with them, how did they get in to power?You do know they got into power with a minority, by convincing another party to sell their souls and betray all their voters? Voter dissatisfaction WAS shown in the election, you just can't tell because they act like they got a mugabe majority rather than being the best placed losers
Meh, they were voted in because the general public didn't like how labour were leading the country and were looking for somebody "not as bad". It boils down to the same thing, they are in power because people voted
Yeah, you can prove anything with facts.
How do those in Northumberland vote now?
hooli - MemberIt boils down to the same thing, they are in power because people voted
Eh, they're in power only because they were able to form a coalition with the lib dems, and you can't tell me that lib dem voters expected their votes to lead here? They didn't vote for this.
They didn't vote for this.
Damn right we didn't. Nick Clegg said nothing about being 'more Tory than Tory' once he got in!
Eh, they're in power only because they were able to form a coalition with the lib dems, and you can't tell me that lib dem voters expected their votes to lead here? They didn't vote for this.
True. I voted LD because in that constituency (now moved) the only alternative was Tory. Labour probably wonder if they'll even get their deposit back when they run there! I voted to keep the Tories out. And it worked, by something like 75 votes. And then they jumped into bed with them.
read this and have a reality check before you go believing everything in the media, you'd be amazed by how much of it is completely untrue when you have first hand experience. See the link below.
Cuts have happened over the last 20 years, to put it down to one party would be naive.
