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Thought that would of raised it up a bit?
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ebygomm I used to work a bit in Kirkby
I work in Kirkby right now :-S
3 pages and nobody has mention my home town of Sunny Scunny, a truly vile place but has a lot of nice people, I blame that Thatcher Bitch.
+1 for Brownhills
Larkhall is grim. The council spend £15k a year there to replace broken bulbs in the traffic lights. The locals don't like it when they turn green. There was also a local campaign to get the ASDA logo in blue instead of green. It's the only town I've biked through and got bottles thrown at me by neds rather than just insults so it must be bad 🙂
By and large, all the places mentioned are former industrial towns, where someone in government or big business decided, with the stroke of a pen, to condemn for generations. Thats what leaves a bit of a sour taste about threads like these.
Me? I'd rather live in some of the listed places rather than some middle class commuter ghetto.
Course you would. Keeping it real, right up until the point that your bike gets nicked (again), your house is broken into for the second time in as many months, just as you've replaced all the stuff that was nicked the last time, your kid finds a used needle in the park, or your wife gets mugged on the street outside your house.
Then, if you've got the opportunity, you'd be out of there like a bat out of hell, just like everyone else with half a brain.
Millom in cumbria.A local place for local people.And if your not local you will end up in the special stuff 😯
aaah millom. Didn't a chap get caught running his drugs empire from an ice cream van there?
"Can i have a 99, two Orange Maid's and a henry please."
Kramer,I've lived in some fairly rough parts of Scotland, I stand by my comments.
Bo'ness.
Not all of it is boarded up. Some of it has been burnt down instead.
aaah millom. Didn't a chap get caught running his drugs empire from an ice cream van there
It wouldn't surprise me 🙄
I lived smak bang between Wigan and St Helens. St Helens is by far the worst, but Skelmersdale is even worse than both by far!
Thing is there's aweful places everywhere, up north and down south. In scotland they seem to be literaly on the doorstep of the richest places, similarly in the north of england, but down south it seems more common to fence areas off and forget they exist.
Bristol outskirts make glasgows outskirts look like a kids play park.
St Helens was where I grew up. Living there in the 80s & 90s, the town didn't have the absolute 'grimness' or feeling of menace that other places I've visited(different to living somewhere for 20 years) have -just a fairly parochial attitude from a lot of the people.
It has been tidied up a bit in recent years, but I do find the town centre a bit depressing on my occasional visits. Of course there are nice parts, and much of the borough is actually quite green/rural.
As has been said, many other towns are similar. They all have the poor, the people in the middle(the old 'respectable' working class who's off-spring have become successively better off, probably including many of the people on here)and the well-off, just in different proportions.
Even Leigh has some nice areas and just outside Kirkby there are large arable farms.
Liverpool gets a terrible press, but it is no worse than other cities.
From what I've seen, the worst places are those that are very insular. Having little opportunity leads to a narrow view of the world, which makes ignorance a virtue and then breeds contempt for education and people from outside and so the cycle continues.
I'd Second Redruth, if it weren't for the existence of Mount Ambrose, and some bits on the Roseland are quite bad, and then there is Coombe, a 10-15 minute ride from Truro, but deep in duelling banjos territory (those are villages though).
Still not as shitty as Port Talbot though.
Bogside-Derry
Sandy Row-Belfast
Wick
Tillidrone-Aberdeen
Glenrothes
Wester Hailes-Edinburgh
Pollockshields-Glasgow
+1 for Blyth
Whitehaven
Will get back to you all for the Southern section!
Batley runs its near neighbour Dewsbury pretty close.
I agree Batley is not the best but I've worked in far far shitier places. Some areas of Leeds and villages in South Wales, Batley is not even close to those places.
(I was born in Batley by the way)
Middleton. The highest proportion of broken limbs and the lowest proportion of teeth and distant relatives.
I work in Kirkby right now :-S
I spent my formative years in Fazakerley, a couple of miles up the road.
Some grim aspects bu pretty much typical of many larger cities, good and bad areas.
Just some observations:
1. Are we including Cities? there is a difference between a city, town and village. or are we just stating worst places
2. It seems from teh places mentioned that must places that are good for riding are in and around crap places!
3. Channel 4 voted for Hull in the first series of the show.
4. London is by far the single most over rated place to live in Britian, its expensive and crap.
5. Cocking gets my vote, I have never been but if if I lived there I would n't tell anyone. "So where to come from?"
"I'm from cocking"
Are we including Cities? there is a difference between a city, town and village. or are we just stating worst places
Strictly speaking towns however lets bring the city of Liverpool into the mix as its always good to slag it off.
Todmorden doesn't even come close to being the worst. Not by a looooooong way. You only have to go down the road to Burnley to see that.
Lots of the Valley's. methyr etc.. are terrible. More social assistance than the old Soviet Union. Truly depressing places.
Scariest place ever Belfast a few years ago. My shaven head and english accent, then being asked if you are "army" in very menacing tones. Much better now.
I travel all over the UK and I think that many places are similarly disadvantaged, clearly massive imabalances in the UK (although MTB'ing is doing it's small bit for some parts of Wales). People in deepest leafy Surrey (where I live) have no idea about the rest of the UK. Many here have never visited much of the UK.
Any town within 10 miles of the M8 is to be avoided, it's a personal rule. Although I do venture into Bo'ness at times to see a friend, its fine if you know somebody local.
The worst town I have ever had the bad luck to spend any time in is Livingston, worked there for 6 months. Went to a meeting on the top floor of the council headquarters, the car park at ASDA below was full at 2pm. Everyone there between 8-6 weekdays either works for the council/federal govt or is dependent on it for a benefit. Everyone else drives to Edinburgh or Glasgow to contribute to the economy. Total dump with low quality housing and serried ranks of pointless roundabouts.
Was ready to slash my wrists, quit that job as soon as was decent.
either Sheffield (if cities are allowed) or Rhyl.
+1 Newquay - nice beaches if you looking out to sea, but full of pissed up staggers & hen parties & teenage stoodents and the place is an abosolute rip off.
Crawley - proper southern sh1te hole (chav city)
I can't believe that Sunderland isn't top of the list!
we went to morecambe once when i was young. I think I caught depression while I was there.
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incidentally the "national" police maps only covers englandshire. They can't count high enough yet to cover Scotland!
Its amazing how peoples views are framed from fleeting experiences or simply prejudice.
You cant judge an area unless you have spent some time there and experienced the local culture. Driving through in the dark and spotting a couple of "hoodies" doesnt count!
true, but gut instinct is usually a good indicator. how many times have you been pleasantly surprised byt a rough-looking area?
how many times have you been pleasantly surprised byt a rough-looking area?
I'm not sure what you mean? How many "gut instincts" are based on prejudice (say of the North) by people who havent travelled further than Birmingham?
We should ask where is the worst place you have lived?
Didn't mind living in either Batley or Wigan.
Crawley makes me come out in hives though. Born there and can't even drive through it anymore. Full of scum. Especially Broadfield and Bewbush...
How many "gut instincts" are based on prejudice (say of the North) by people who havent travelled further than Birmingham?
aye, obviously its not fair to judge somewhere if you haven't even been there.
Another vote for Widnes. My grandparents used to live there and, even staying there as a child, I realised the place was unbearably grim. And Runcorn makes Widnes look like the island in the old Bounty "Paradise" adverts...
Morecambe is a strange one. Look at the seafront/promenade and the council have spent tens of thousands trying to make it look nice (and the view from there over Morecambe Bay can be stunning). Turn around and look behind the row of shops though and it's a whole new world of drug addled DSS scum and boarded up houses.
@surfer Kirkby in Ashfield not Kirkby, Liverpool @postierich Sunny scunny ain't all that bad compared to a lot of places, it's leagues above the aforementioned Kirkby, plus it's got a lovely link to a quiet motorway to take you away from it all!
Maybe not bad places to live, but I wouldn't like to live in these places, well maybe the last 2 would be worth a visit?
Shitterton, Dorset, England
Cockup, Cumbria, England
Wetwang, Yorkshire, England
Titty Hill, Sussex, England
Muff, Ireland
i dont even see how this is a question.
London, surely?
Mansfield, Sutton in Ashfield both pretty bad.I think they look quite good when you compare them to Kirkby!
Careful.... 🙂 I was born in Sutton-in-Ashfield and raised in Kirkby and Sutton (And went to school in 'ucknall ). All my Mums side of the family are Kirkby born and bread. There's a LOT LOT worse than either of those 2 places.....I'll give you Mansfield, mind. 😉
Ahh, a bit of north Notts slang for you - All genuine.
"Oo worra wi? Worra wi mi mam or worra wi me sen?"
"Gi us a borra 'o ya barra, yoth!"
"Giorre scrattin an' gerron wi it!"
I can speak propper now though. 😀
Any town beginning with B in the NW of England just about covers it.
+1 for Crawley - may have been the UK's biggest boom town in the 80's but parts of it are a proper sh1thole
[i]+1 for Crawley - may have been the UK's biggest boom town in the 80's but parts of it are a proper sh1thole [/i]
oh come on - it's an absolute dump, sure, but FAR nicer than Redhill.
PeterPoddy: I think I got all that apart from "worra"..
"Who would you like to worra with? Worra with my esteemed mother or worra with my good self?"
"May I borrow your barrow, my good man?"
"I say, would you cease that incessant babbling and proceed with your assigned duties?"
I say, would you cease that incessant babbling and proceed with your assigned duties?"
Genius, PMSL! 😆
Scrattin is actually 'scratching'. My mate's dad said it to him when we were talking about doing something to his car, as he stood sctatching his head. We both just fell about laughing! 🙂
'Worra' = 'Was I' 🙂
I love Notts slang. As soon as I meet anyone from my area, my accent changes dramatically, after living darn sarf for so long, even I notice it. Common as muck. Love it. 🙂
'Worra' = 'Was I'
Ahhh... so is it...
"I say, my memory escapes me, who was I with? Was I with dearest mama, or was I on my own?"
Yep that's it. That's a class line given to my mother (A teacher) who spotted a pupil out of school then mentioned it to him the next day.