Yey ... am very excited - had my offer accepted on the house I want to buy ... with my own (wo)man cave* (it's the same as a man cave but with extra 'wo' 🙂 )
So, your tips and suggestions for cave design and layout please. It's approx 5m by 3m, and will need to store 4/5 bikes, climbing and mountaineering kit. Plus ideally have a fettling zone. Any advice on storage / shelving / bike stands etc?
* it also has a rather fabulous oak and granite kitchen for when I have a Nigella-stye domestic goddess moment, so I might need more flapjack etc recipes soon too!
Throw cushions.
candles, and a jet wash
TSY - at anyone in particular? Or a new approach to a pillow fight 🙂
fridge, flat screen tv, insulation, hot n cold running water
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wine cooler for the little lady? Like a beer fridge but more civilised 😀
Oh... and when you're in the kitchen, don't forget to constantly have your head tilted at a certain angle, while toying seductively with something covered in cream
Hey... I don't make the rules
You'll definitely need a good bench vice.
You may never need it, but it's not a proper man cave without one 😀
Paint the floor with floor paint (yes really) before you move into it, saves on dust and means you can find those pesky nuts & bolts when it drops on the floor.
Hang the bikes horizontally, the vertical (front wheel) hangers are a pain to use.
Solid bench, not too high - think dining table height, not breakfast bar. As GrahamS so correctly points out a vice is essential. Make sure it's got its own overhead light, and powerpoints. And a radio.
Lots of shelves.
Big stick for paint stirring.
Rags. More rags.
Bike workstand.
Scented candles optional, a real man cave smells of oil and grease.
You need a few cats too.
Storage, storage, storage... did I say that already? When you've finished lobbing around soft furnishings and sipping wine 😉 you'll be wanting lots of space to put stuff. Shelves, hooks, cupboards, those clever little boxes they sell in DiY stores with lots of compartments to put widgets in, you know the ones. Oh yeah and a vice, of course, and a proper work stand. Think upscaled trip to stationery store in terms of 'I must have that functional and aesthetic object'' and you're there. Oh and congrats on the house!
Torque wrench it's not a man cave unless you have a torque wrench!
a real man cave smells of oil and grease
You are behind the times grandad, the modern fragrance is GT85.
LOL! Boys, I come on here for burly, rugged manly advice ... and what do I get? Suggestions for cushions and candles ... mind you, the wine cooler looks good 🙂
Girl cave is part of the house and already comes with heating, but will be a 'blank canvas' (in best Kirsty / Phil / Kevin speak), so will need to fit it out from scratch.
have a look at vortex's garage, far nice than my kitchen. 😀
it's the same as a man cave but with extra 'wo'
🙂
that is great line.
You are behind the times grandad, the modern fragrance is GT85.
That's a given, but it's only a short-lived smell. The oil-soaked rag is what gives a man-cave character, the underlying tannins and body to the floral bouquet and hint of chocolate that GT85 provides.
mogrim - I was wondering whether horizontal would be better than vertical - but with 4/5 bikes I am a bit concerned about how much wall space would be needed?
Thanks for the suitably manly advice guys and girls, keep the suggestions coming ... and yes it will probably smell of GT85 🙂
You need the following:
Perforated chipboard wall covering to hang your bike tools on. Bonus points if you sketch out a little outline around each tool so that it has it's own home. A vice is vital too.
You must not forget to have a little corner of the cave devoted to the room temperature storage of beverages. In times of crisis one needs to reach over for a calming bottle of cider/beer etc when tackling a difficult engineering task.
Enjoy!
The Southern Yeti - MemberThrow cushions.
lol
Sue_W - MemberLOL! Boys, I come on here for burly, rugged manly advice ... and what do I get? Suggestions for cushions and candles ... mind you, the wine cooler looks good
They are all a bit "metrosexual" these days
As TJ is now on the thread I should like to make clear my use of "man cave" is pure laziness and does not reflect any inherent sexism on my part, and should be taken to read as "wo/man cave" at all times. Thank you.
Insulation, hate working with cold tools!
Workstand & stool, tools on the wall for easy access, loads of shelves, decent lighting.
White floor, helps with lighting and find those washers/bolts you've dropped.
Hoping to get a man cave sorted this summer! Show us your pics of your man caves for some inspiration!
Is wo an abbreviation of woe?
I'd go for mid-grey floor paint myself, but my step-father prefers a lighter colour. He does like his garage to highlight dropped spanners and oil though.
Racking/shelves can be got from B&Q for cheap money. I got 4 lots of their four shelf plastic rack for my garage and they hold a lot of paint and random stuff. They can also be linked together and have brackets for attaching to walls.
Re a bench, see if you can blag some off-cut kitchen worktop from a DIY shop. it's good and solid, you can attach it easily enough using angle brackets and batten and it's strong enough to take a bench vise. Plus, you can sometimes get a nice pattern. Also, formica wipes clean.
You are going to need some shackles, straps a decent bench, hooks from the ceiling and a cradle.
And Extra virgin olive oil
storgae in the roof space for camping/climbing kit:
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Work bench for fettling. With a view.
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Racking for bits and pieces (try http://www.bigdug.co.uk )
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And of course bike hooks on the wall
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mogrim - I was wondering whether horizontal would be better than vertical - but with 4/5 bikes and a bit concerned about how much wall space would be needed?
Horizontal and high enough you can get two above / two below. Vertical you can probably fit more in, but they're a real pain to get and down from the hooks and will stick out (a bit) more. Wall space for horizontal hanging is the length of the longest bike+a bit, obviously.
Actually, looking at Stoner's photos I wonder whether the problem I had with vertical hanging could be because I stuck the hooks high up on the wall and too close together. (I didn't have much choice, the kids' bikes need to be on the floor, and to get enough space I had to tuck my bikes out the way.)
As its compulsory for every bloke who's ever picked up a spanner to covet a big, shiny, red Snap-On tool box, would this be essential in a woman cave too? I don't see any reason why not
You need one of these....
Whether there are any tools in it, or not, is irrelevant. As long as it looks the part 😉
They are all a bit "metrosexual" these days
Yup, anything more manly generally gets reported as 'offensive'
You need a nice rack, just like Stoner's.
Big stick for paint stirring.
Don't ignore this advice.
Also bag/box of old clothes for use as rags.
A stack of jazz including at least 2 calenders.
Ignore the painting of floors and get a rubber floor.
Tools bounce, expensive bike bits bounce without breaking, it'll keep your feet warmer than standing on a painted concrete floor and as a bonus use it'll stop it being echo-y (Is that a real word?) so you can use a decent stereo in there.
Stoner - I take your [i]storgae in the roof space for camping/climbing kit:[/i], and up it with a staircase to get there:
If you've space just park the bikes in a rack - or alternatively hang some off rafters (with wheels out).
Some form of heating and a (beer) fridge helps, plus its not a 'proper' man-cave without a Drill Press 😉
When I got a garage I was all excited and wanted to hang tools all over the walls, then I realised I'd have to pack and unpack them every time I went away biking.
So instead I just keep them in a nice big toolbox on wheels and pop the tool tray out when I have fettling to do.
Stoner - what bike hooks are those?
I can't see suitable calendars in those pictures.
Is there a "Readers Husbands" equivalent?
Edit: beaten to it I see
maycontainnuts - MemberA stack of jazz including at least 2 calenders.
Insulation on the walls,
Wall mounted TV (and DVD) in front of a dedicated turbo,
Tool wall (with lines drawn round the tools),
Bench vice,
Good lighting,
Good workstand next to a kitchen height worktop,
Kettle and small fridge,
Sofabed.
Bikes hung vertically by the wheel, but leave approximately 50cm either side of the bikes to avoid loads of hassle putting them up and taking them down. If you mount ground anchors onto the wall you can chain each bike individually (and securely!).
If it's a proper mancave, lock the grage door so it's impossible to open from the outside to increase security - you won't be using the garage door anyway!
This is my plan when the other half and me move, I'm currently sharing a cramped garage 🙁
A friend had her basement converted into a (wo)man cave, the place is incredible.
You walk in to what looks like a normal ground floor flat: bit poky, small rooms, her bikes everywhere. Into the (small) kitchen and there's a spiral staircase in one corner, down there and into this huge expanse of cellar space, just one massive room. Immaculate with a plush carpet, massive TV, huge Buddha Bags (like massive bean bags), throws, cushions, an exercise mat and a drinks cabinet. All the lights/wiring/heating etc is hidden. Really lovely "chill-out zone" type area.
I guess it stands out cos it's such a contrast to the rest of the house with it's narrow corridor and small rooms.
You need a pool table as well [ps I have one for sale ;-)].
I went to a slate bed one 🙂
Ooh ... getting even more excited now!
So, on the must have list so far:
Work bench and stool with good overhead light
Bike hanging area (vertical or horizontal)
Lots of shelving and storage for widgets
Red shiny toolbox on wheels (could I get away with having one in pink???)
Space for oily rags etc (ie a dirty zone ...)
Am liking the idea of a rubber floor (any other slightly pervy suggestions will have to wait til I'm seeking advice on fitting out the rooms upstairs 😉 )
Wine cooler with optional candles and cushions 🙂
A roll of big blue paper towel hung from a hook on a loop of string, one of them anglepoise lights over the workbench, and a big bin you can throw trash into from across the room.
And a piece of old carpet to stand on by the bench.




