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Not sure what it is, whether it is the grunting, the short rallies, the lack of sets or what, but I just don't find women's tennis particularly exciting...
Really think they should play more sets to help even the game a little more.
I keep meaning to create an audio quiz, "women's tennis or BDSM pornography?"
Really think they should play more sets to help even the game a little more.
They should sets it up a bit?
Short rallies?
I enjoy it every bit as much as the mens game, it's all great. Canny whack top level sport, whichever the gender.
You can remove the first word of the title as far as I'm concerned.
I tend to agree. But with the odd exception as a spectator I feel the same about most women's sport. It's a bit if an Elephant in the room but that's how I feel ๐
Ok, to be fair, there are a fair few games being played and it looks as though it might even go to a third set...
And on another note why bother with the lines people calling out if the computer can do it with much more accuracy?
Yes, cougar, sets it up a bit... ๐ ๐
That was the worst performance by the line judges that I've ever seen in a tennis final .
Ok, so I was wrong... 2 Sets it was.
Agree re line calling....!
The way some of them grunt and squeak is comical and I can't take it seriously, so I don't watch women's tennis. It's annoying. That Halep one was a joke.
I tend to agree. But with the odd exception as a spectator I feel the same about most women's sport. It's a bit if an Elephant in the room but that's how I feel
Rugby, football, track cycling, the women's events are as entertaining as the men's, if not better (particularly football).
Other sports, mehhh. I'm sure they put in 100% of the effort the men do, and it's just as exciting to be involved in, but they're just not interesting to watch. Women's road cycling falls into that category, it's like watching Cat4 racing without the crashes.
Rugby, football, track cycling, the women's events are as entertaining as the men's, if not better (particularly football).
sorry, this is simply not true... especially the football bit. women's "top level" football is embarrassing to watch, and i say that who watches non league stuff regularly.
i don't doubt the level of commitment and effort put in by all involved but women's sport just isn't as good as men's... if they were as good they'd compete against each other and there would be a parity of victories between the sexes.
i'm struggling to think of a single sport where the top level ladies can beat the top level men. but i'm happy to be corrected... genuinely
does this make me a massive sexist? i do hope not, but i can see how my opinion will enrage quite a few ๐
taxi25 is right, it just needs saying.
I'd rather watch that than nadal picking at his ass every 2 seconds,what's he keeping up there dr fuentes?
I'd rather watch that than nadal picking at his ass every 2 seconds,what's he keeping up there dr fuentes?
Your space bar?.
Really think they should play more sets to help even the game a little more.
So you think its a bit meh and want it to go on for [i]longer[/i]
My Mrs always watches the women's footy, despite not actually liking football. Well I say watch, its on in solidarity with the sisterhood I think, she doesn't actually look at the screen much.
Whatever, even she doesn't bother with the women's tennis.
i'm struggling to think of a single sport where the top level ladies can beat the top level men.
Netball?
Is that the point, anyway? Why do the women have to beat the men, they just have to beat each other? If you're a spectator, surely the question is rather, which is most enjoyable to watch?
Though TBH I'm probably the wrong person to speculate as most spectator sport leaves me cold. I'd rather do something myself than watch someone else doing it.
Paying best o 5 like the men would be a good start. How/why the women put up with this inequality- god knows.
So you think its a bit meh and want it to go on for longer
a bit meh partly due to the best-of-three set up. more sets would give the players more of a chance to get into the game.
each of the womens fianlists only had one game that went to three sets on their way to the final.
Paying best o 5 like the men would be a good start. How/why the women put up with this inequality- god knows.
so much for feminism.... #burnyour[s]bra[/s]racket
[s]Women's [/s]tennis.... A bit meh?
Damn, watching the final on catch up,and now I see it's two sets ๐
Generally agree with ladies tennis from an entertainment perspective but this final is very different. Very hard hitting and athleticism. I play a lot of tennis and probably wouldn't get a point off them.
Noteworthy how Venus' volume rises depending in the importance of the point.
IMO few ladies sports compete from an overall entertainment perspective and absurd TI ask for equal pay. But, for a learning perspective their game (despite what I said about not getting a point) is much closer to men's amateur play and hence men can learn a lot from their games whereas men pros are at a level that is irrelevant to most amateurs.
Ditto golf, lady pro players are clubbing much the same as me, so I can learn from how they play a course. Male pros are playing a different game altogether
Back to admiring Garbine and Venus - impressive stuff!
As above..
It's not just Women's tennis that's beyond dull..
I don't think it really matters on whether it's a women's sport or not TBH.
Alot of men's sport is dull to watch. That rugby union shite that all the hooray henry's on here are into; most of the tour de france; about fifty percent of football matches; every single cricket match ever played etc.
I think women's sport can be really exciting but you have to get over the fact that women aren't as strong as men . In women's tennis that means that the serve isn't such a big advantage as in mens tennis consequently there are more rally's . Women's international football is far less cynical than the men's game with less diving and cynical fouling . The women's cricket has been really exciting , the England Australia World Cup game was one of the most exciting games I've watched for a long time and you didn't know who was going to win until the last ball had been bowled . Women's Athletics is just as exciting as men's even if the times are a little slower or the heights and distances aren't quite as great .
Blimey what happened there....a second set donut???
Drac - Moderator
[s]Women's[/s] tennis.... A bit meh?
Trudat
Rugby, football, track cycling, the women's events are as entertaining as the men's, if not better
No - they're generally crap. OK the track cycling is decent but, in general, women's sports are rubbish to watch compared to men's.
Serena Williams herself said that men's tennis is a different game and she'd lose 6-0 6-0 to Andy Murray in about 6 minutes.
My parents were both huge tennis fans and went to Grand Slams, Davis Cup, Masters Events and followed it all on TV for the past 40yrs. The ONLY women's match I can ever recall them watching was Virginia Wade winning Wimbledon in 1977.
If they split the Grand Slams into separate weeks for the men/women we'd see how many people wanted to watch the women then - it wouldn't be many.
I'm not knocking the female players - they're dedicated athletes but there's no way they should get the same prize money as the men because their product is not commercially as attractive. It would be the same as saying the Arsenal Ladies team should get the same wages as their male counterparts........
[s]Women's[/s] tennis.... A bit meh?
Trudat
3rd reply in thread said it anyway.
Only reason I can watch women's tennis is to see knickers. For that reason, it's better than mens.
Women boxing though, does nothing for me.
teamhurtmore - Member
Blimey what happened there....a second set donut???
After losing the first set, Venus seemed to throw in the towel. Maybe this lawsuit business has distracted her?
Only reason I can watch women's tennis is to see knickers
๐ Peanut-smuggling seems to have been a talking point this year.
Cougar - Moderator
i'm struggling to think of a single sport where the top level ladies can beat the top level men.
Netball?Is that the point, anyway? Why do the women have to beat the men, they just have to beat each other? If you're a spectator, surely the question is rather, which is most enjoyable to watch?
to see the [u]very[/u] best is the point of watching pro/elite sports, isn't it? if you know someone can be beaten, then they're not the best... same goes for para sports, great for taking part, i just don't see why you'd want to watch it (perhaps for another thread on another day)
Knickers???
Reminds me how off putting it is swimming sets behind a woman who has a tampn string dangling out of her cossie - I struggle with that...
NExt time try pulling it, see what she says... "There's a snake in my boots!" or something.
Mixed team games ftw.
Korfball anyone?
It's coming home, it's coming home.......
robgclarkson - Member
Cougar - Moderator
i'm struggling to think of a single sport where the top level ladies can beat the top level men.Netball?
Is that the point, anyway? Why do the women have to beat the men, they just have to beat each other? If you're a spectator, surely the question is rather, which is most enjoyable to watch?
to see the very best is the point of watching pro/elite sports, isn't it? if you know someone can be beaten, then they're not the best... same goes for para sports, great for taking part, i just don't see why you'd want to watch it (perhaps for another thread on another day)POSTED 12 MINUTES AGO #
So by that reasoning you wouldn't have watched any of the great middleweight boxing contests because the best heavyweight could have beaten them .
This wins the prize for the most backward thread of the day. The amount of sexism and anti disability content is surprising.
Sport is about competing against others and yourself. If you enjoy watching it then great, but nobody forced you to. Women's sport is just as competitive as the mens equivalent. Expecting them to be at the same physical level is just wrong as the women are not competing against the men. Just because you don't like it does not mean that it should not exist, or is a waste of time.
BTW any comment about a woman's tampon during a sporting event is right out of order. If men had to put up with bleeding every month out of their penis you are damn sure we would all know about it. Instead they get on with it and try and put in your best performance despite having a hormonal imbalance and losing a key part of their oxygen supply mechanism.
manton69 - MemberThis wins the prize for the most backward thread of the day. The amount of sexism and anti disability content is surprising.
So much white male privilege in this thread.
Jimjam you rewrote my reply far more succinctly.
Albeit completely sarcastically.
๐ the subtle ones are always best
Lael Wilcox
Yes, but your job as a bloke with regards to feminism is to get out of the way and help if required. I am SWP, but know enough to check myself before saying stuff and seeing if I would feel ok if it was said about me.
Well done manton and jimjim - gladly ... end of thread (hopefully)
BTW any comment about a woman's tampon during a sporting event is right out of order. If men had to put up with bleeding every month out of their penis you are damn sure we would all know about it. Instead they get on with it and try and put in your best performance despite having a hormonal imbalance and losing a key part of their oxygen supply mechanism.
Time of the month? ๐
Showjumpingi'm struggling to think of a single sport where the top level ladies can beat the top level men. but i'm happy to be corrected... genuinely
scotroutes - Member
i'm struggling to think of a single sport where the top level ladies can beat the top level men. but i'm happy to be corrected... genuinely
Showjumping
i'm happy now
manton69 - Member
This wins the prize for the most backward thread of the day. The amount of sexism and anti disability content is surprising.Sport is about competing against others and yourself. If you enjoy watching it then great, but nobody forced you to. Women's sport is just as competitive as the mens equivalent. Expecting them to be at the same physical level is just wrong as the women are not competing against the men. Just because you don't like it does not mean that it should not exist, or is a waste of time.
BTW any comment about a woman's tampon during a sporting event is right out of order. If men had to put up with bleeding every month out of their penis you are damn sure we would all know about it. Instead they get on with it and try and put in your best performance despite having a hormonal imbalance and losing a key part of their oxygen supply mechanism.
no one's saying it's a waste of time, just that it's not as good as watching the men
and erm... you brought periods up, so, you know, we damn well know about it now
Ramsey Neil - MemberSo by that reasoning you wouldn't have watched any of the great middleweight boxing contests because the best heavyweight could have beaten them.
oooo you've picked a hole in my argument there... ๐
no one's saying it's a waste of time, just that it's not as good as watching the men
Completly agree, but according to the sexist poluce of STW if you don't enjoy watching women's sport as much as men's your a sexist ? Glad that's sorted then ๐
For me it's more about how evenly matched things are. Men's sport is boring when it's a completely one sided affair.
I think the problem with women's sport is that they generally lack strength in depth so this is more likely. The more women who can be encouraged to participate, the better things will be.
The olympic womens road race was one of the most exciting finishes to a race I've ever seen.