I don't like the look of the sad face at the end of your post Jamie - is it that bad!?
I was hoping it would be quicker than 10.9.4 as I find that quite slow.
Not delved into the full workings yet, be doing that tomorrow. The sad face was based on the GUI.
Solo - Member
But they're Americans who think Fahrenheit is a really neat way of measuring temperature so not to be trustedAnd their gallons are smaller!
No they're not. Their 8 pints same as ours.
Their pints on the other hand are only 16oz
Technical nightmare no doubt.
Well it required a significant amount of insight to figure out WHY the video wouldn't play...
No they're not. Their 8 pints same as ours.
An early contender for the STW Pedant of the Day award here folks. Can anyone beat him? Only time will tell!!
An early contender for the STW Pedant of the Day award here folks. Can anyone beat him? Only time will tell!!
Respect is due for out-smartarseing Mikewsmith though. No mean feat.
Back on topic, I was [i]just about[/i] to order a new desktop PC with 8.1.
Obviously this has made me pause, but it's not gonna be coming 'til well into 2015 I guess?
Expected Microsoft to make their next OS free, but then perhaps they need to consolidate their other lines of business before they can take that gamble.
@Molgrips - preview definitely being released today but will be to US time and not GMT.
Pah, AmigaOS was where it was at, proper multi-tasking and multiple desktops in the 1980's 🙂
I'm sure the real Windows 10 version number will be 6.4 and that's because Microsoft have retained the same core code since Vista - which I found was quite decent and far better than XP.
Pah, AmigaOS was where it was at
and OS/2 later 🙂
Funny how both used Rexx as the scripting language as well.
Cougar - Moderator
No they're not. Their 8 pints same as ours.
An early contender for the STW Pedant of the Day award here folks. Can anyone beat him? Only time will tell!!
Why, thank you. High praise indeed given the normal competition on here.
I assume you mean OS9. It lacked protected memory and premptive multitasking, yes. It wasn't a terrible OS to use though. A lot of good features in there.
was horrible to develop for, any (mistaken) attempt to write to the memory address 0x00 would crash the Mac (many many third party apps would also fall foul of this) though the inside macintosh tomes were lovely and console in MPW was superb.
Expected Microsoft to make their next OS free
Interesting this.
MacOS is clearly not free, as you're paying for it in the cost of the machine. However, now that Windows machines are getting stupidly cheap, they could afford a little extra Windows licensing cost and still be good value to consumers.
This could then remove the need for MS to charge for upgrades. After all, it must surely be a pretty small percentage of users who actually buy upgrades or even retail OSes?
Downloading now...
Quite an amusing story over at [url= http://gizmodo.com/windows-10-may-have-gotten-its-name-because-of-lazy-cod-1641383218 ]gizmodo[/url] on why MS may have skipped Windows 9.
molgrips - Member
Downloading now...
Tell us how it goes, what it looks like from a Molgrips POV..
No they're not. Their 8 pints same as ours.Their pints on the other hand are only 16oz
They're 8 pints, the same as ours.
Their 8 pints are less than ours.
Quite an amusing story over at gizmodo on why MS may have skipped Windows 9.
I would be stunned if anyone did version checking in that manner, ever. That's just odd.
I still reckon it's to align Windows Phone and Windows Desktop product numbers.
I would be stunned if anyone did version checking in that manner, ever. That's just odd.
However the code search threw up thousands of hits. they seem to be mostly Java though searching the OS name - you'd expect Windows apps to use the API version number...
I would be stunned if anyone did version checking in that manner, ever. That's just odd.
I've reviewed an awful lot of code over the past 20 years... I would not be at all stunned.
you'd expect Windows apps to use the API version number
You'd really hope so, wouldn't you...
I'll bet that it's not though. Real world and all that...
Yeah, fair comments. (-:
MacOS is clearly not free, as you're paying for it in the cost of the machine. However, now that Windows machines are getting stupidly cheap, they could afford a little extra Windows licensing cost and still be good value to consumers.This could then remove the need for MS to charge for upgrades. After all, it must surely be a pretty small percentage of users who actually buy upgrades or even retail OSes?
I was thinking more of Google / Android as their most threatening rival, but you've got a good point.
I've got to pay £80 or so for the OS on my new machine, it does seem a bit steep considering the low cost of the hardware and that I'll need to purchase further productivity software.
I'll get back at them by using Open Office though.
I've reviewed an awful lot of code over the past 20 years... I would not be at all stunned.
Only been a professional software engineer for a few years and I wouldn't surprised either.
Take this, [url= http://www.polygon.com/2014/9/24/6839135/fifa-bug-turns-soccer-into-a-farce ]Fifa PC Name Bug[/url], last week for example, very weird, but definitely out there in production code.
Any more info on what the FIFA bug is caused by? Obv computer name is part of it but what code is using the computer name (presumably only the characters after the first four if it's not working) and how does that lead to the running to the centre part?
Personally, given my experience of reviewing code I'd be surprised if they hadn't done that.
aracer... 🙂
Any more info on what the FIFA bug is caused by? Obv computer name is part of it but what code is using the computer name (presumably only the characters after the first four if it's not working) and how does that lead to the running to the centre part?
Speculation among my colleagues was that it was possibly being used as a seed for a shoddy random number generator. Not enough randomness results in everyone doing that same thing. Just a guess though, not seen anything more official.
LOL... I suppose that could work but I'm not sure why you'd not just hardcode a seed since the randomness should avoid consistent output.
Has there been a nine?
It was so rubbish they decided not to release it ?
I am surprised they just didn't go straight to 11, the Spinal Tap release 8)
As for the comment that Minecraft acquisition got more press. That's because that's more important / relevant to most people including investors. Games and Office are more important than OS for Microsoft now.
Speculation among my colleagues was that it was possibly being used as a seed for a shoddy random number generator. Not enough randomness results in everyone doing that same thing. Just a guess though, not seen anything more official.
Really, even when I was writing code in the 1970's we where told to seed the random number generator using output form the clock-chips for example.
I'm not sure why you'd not just hardcode a seed since the randomness should avoid consistent output.
Because most random number generator algorithms will give the same "random" numbers every time if you start them with the same seed.
even when I was writing code in the 1970's we where told to seed the random number generator using output form the clock-chips for example.
Perhaps they have done something daft like:
[code]rng_seed = mouseZ * mouseY * clock * hash(computername)[/code]
But they have a crappy hash that always produces zero for names less than 4 characters.
Because most random number generator algorithms will give the same "random" numbers every time if you start them with the same seed.
I'm not sure that's really true Graham, at least not for current computers.
That said, your formula could be the sort of thing causing it though I can't think why you'd use the computer name still.
EDIT - actually of course if you're using a seed then by definition it's pseudo-random so you're right - I was thinking more that computers can generate random numbers without a seed. I STILL don't get why you'd use computer name though 🙂
I can't think why you'd use the computer name still.
To generate a different sequence on every computer?
I'm not sure that's really true Graham, at least not for current computers.
Yeah it's still true and it can actually be quite a useful property being able to get the same sequence of "random" numbers every time by using the same seed.
This is from the C# documentation on the Random class:
If the same seed is used for separate Random objects, they will generate the same series of random numbers. This can be useful for creating a test suite that processes random values, or for replaying games that derive their data from random numbers.
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To produce different sequences of random numbers, you can make the seed value time-dependent, thereby producing a different series with each new instance of Random.-- http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.random%28v=vs.110%29.aspx
I STILL don't get why you'd use computer name though
Yeah it's an odd choice. If they wanted a hardware-specific unique-ish value then something like the MAC id or a serial number would have seemed like a better choice.
But we're just guessing really - it's an odd bug and probably down to silly developer somewhere and some crap code reviewing.
Well Windows 10 Tech Preview installed and first impressions are favourable.
I actually really liked 8.1 as I used the Modern UI screen as a really big start menu in effect and with a windows button on my mouse could quickly toggle between desktop and start screen.
W10 has a proper start menu but also nests the tiles of your choosing along side - works very well on a desktop PC.
I'll be interested to see what they do with RT based tablets and WP. I would imagine the dev preview of WP10 will be released before the year's end.
W10 seems pretty stable and they are releasing updates all the time so if you're feeling brave I'd say go for it.
As for the name the most rational explanation I have seen is that certain functions within the Windows source code and some application source code checks to see whether Windows 95 or 98me is being run. However in a situation not too dissimilar to the millennium bug the code only checks for a 9 - so something like 'if OS version == 9x then...' etc. This would cause things to fall over quite badly if true.
Well Windows 10 Tech Preview installed
Can't get it to install under VirtualBox here 🙁
Installed it under VMWare, seems to work. Lots of little bugs though as you'd expect.
It looks lovely, works very well but the huge thing is the integration with tablet and phone platforms. Because this means apps, for your computer.
After a decade or two of everything becoming more centred on webpages, now it's gone back the other way. There's a facebook app, and it looks the same as the phone one. Not sure how I feel about this.
On the other hand, there's a One Note app which I open and I can see all the notes from my phone in there straight away. No finding of bookmarks and logging in. Very integrated.
I'm not sure how much it'll take off because are developers really going to want to spend all that effort on a website and then do it all again for the app? Then again, Windows is by far the dominant OS still, so maybe. It could be great for Windows Phone if they do, because the apps should all work on that too if I understand correctly.
Currently listening to an XBox radio station I just created 🙂
*ahem*
http://thehackernews.com/2014/10/download-Windows-10-keylogger.html
Best not be using that partition for one handed typing then...
