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Had a conversation with my wife this morning that went something like this:
Her: Did you sleep well last night?
Me: Yeah, up until the boy woke us up at four. Didn’t really get back to sleep after that.
Her: You know what? I put my phone in my drawer last night instead of leaving it out on top. I had a really good sleep.
Me: Oh, right.
Her: I overheard someone yesterday saying that they can affect your sleep because of what they give off.
Me: What do they give off?
Her: I can’t remember what it was. But if you put it in your drawer then it helps you sleep better. I feel like I slept really well.
Me: Is it radiation or something?
Her: I didn't hear what it was. I just overheard a conversation. I knew you were going to be like this, I almost didn’t even mention it. You can look it up.
Me: Being like what? Look what up? I don’t even know what it is you’re claiming happens. Maybe it’s the light from the LED? [on our Galaxy phones the LED blink to let you know you’ve got a message/email/missed all etc, that can be pretty annoying in a dark room]
Her: No, it wasn’t that.
Me: How does being in a drawer help? It’s not like it’s electro-magnetically shielded or anything.
Her: Look, I don’t know the details, they just said that if you put it in your drawer it cuts out whatever it is and helps you sleep. Stop having a go at me.
At this point I gave up on what was clearly a lost cause and started speculating on where the new patio should go…
She really should know better – she’s a chartered engineer, and an associate with an international multi-disciplinary engineering firm. If one of her contractors came up with a suggestion to use a new type of concrete, or new design of crash barrier, she’d be the first to demand test data before even considering it. Here she’s overheard half a conversation and is convinced of something she can’t name or even describe! It’s bloody frustrating!
Anybody else’s other half a part-time loony?
My wife's husband is a little odd. Thankfully she hasn't much room for more patio.
Given the "I knew you were going to be like this" comment, it sounds like you have a history of dismissing her views and should aim to be a better listener.
Did you put your phone in the drawer, or do people only get affected by their own phones?
chambord - Member
Given the "I knew you were going to be like this" comment, it sounds like you have a history of dismissing her views and should aim to be a better listener.
Touché! 🙂 although you could argue that I was listening very well, which is what caused me to notice the massive, bleeding obvious, fatal flaw in her argument. I didn't even say she was wrong, I just asked for more details, since she hadn't really offered any.
She's intelligent and well-read, and more knowledgeable than me on many subjects, but every once in a while she latches on to some crackpot idea and gets proper arsey when you try to ask for the logic behind it.
sweepy - Member
Did you put your phone in the drawer, or do people only get affected by their own phones?
That did occur to me at the time, but I thought it wise not mention it.
Her: You know what? I put my phone in my drawer last night instead of leaving it out on top. I had a really good sleep.
Me: Oh, right.
That's where you went wrong first of all. Seriously, you must admit that's clearly a lacklustre interest, that actually displays a total lack of respect for her, no matter what or how she believes things.
Sleep, is important. Sleep to a lady, is[b] Level 5[/b] critical.
Anybody else’s other half a part-time loony?
..and that is where you have double-failed. She is not a loony from that statement. She slept well and has associated it with the whole phone/drawer thing, despite not having a case-study to back it up. She might be right TBH! Just be grateful she slept well!
So, if I was your wife, I'd be wrapping up my norks from your sight, and possibly kicking you in the balls in my sleep, by accident. 🙂
Have you got a mattock and a decent digging spade?? Make her a night time cocoa with some special sleepy ingredients and get to work digging. You could have the hole done and filled back in by sunrise and maybe have time for a quick celebratory spin before work.
I will stick my phone in a drawer tonight and get back to you,
Your wife sounds very nice and not at all mental.
My nephew used to go out with some one so stupid I swore blind she had to be putting it on until I spun her a yarn about the Brent cross shark, that she believed until she then related the story to her dad who nearly wet himself that I truly believed that people could be that gullible.
bearnecessities - true enough about good sleep being more important than common sense... In the end I let it go as I figured even if it's just placebo, if it works then it works.
When she was pregnant she tried both accupuncture and homeopathy to get rid of morning sickness. Even I wasn't stupid enough to do anything other be fully supportive of both ideas!
Me: Being like what? Look what up? I don’t even know what it is you’re claiming happens. Maybe it’s the light from the LED? [on our Galaxy phones the LED blink to let you know you’ve got a message/email/missed all etc, that can be pretty annoying in a dark room
Her: No, it wasn’t that.
<panto> Oh yes it was</panto>
Are your drawers lined with tinfoil?
Are your drawers lined with tinfoil?
That would be most uncomfortable not to mention the rustling.
I've read something similar but the basis was that by putting the phone away reduces temptation to check it, the backlight messes up the ability to sleep as your brain thinks it isn't time to sleep.
WTF is there a phone in the bedroom?
Maybe you should be asking here questions like that.
shouldn't it be plugged in in the kitchen where the brights lights don't spoil your sleep?
Yes, I to was stuck listening to that pillock Evans yesterdayb morning.
Well if she is a Cilvil engineer that would explain alot 🙂
Ask her how deep patio foundations should be when the soil type has variable consistency.
Well, seeing as phone signal drops quite a bit when I go indoors, it doesn't seem beyond credulity that putting it in the drawer reduces it further. And it probably moves it futher from your head too.
Same reasoning that keeping your phone in your pocket rather than a manbag can decreace your sperm count by a half.
I'm not a yogurt weaving hippie, but I do try and minimise the time I spend too near my phone.
How to lay a patio properly..
http://www.aggregate.com/bradstone/guides-and-advice/laying-guides/laying-a-patio-guide/
It's important to remember that the patio will settle over time so it's actually better to lay the corpse off just past one of the edges, it's an excuse for the digging you need and you don't want to create a big puddle in the dip. If she's an engineer you could ask for her help or better still learn to agree vacantly whilst appearing to listen.
The actual story is that charging your phone while you sleep can make you fat.
To clarify, it only happens if you sleep in the same room the phone is charging in, the reason being that having the screen lit lights up the room and sleeping in the light messes with the production of some hormones. Phones that don't light up while charging or that are charged face down won't cause this.
[url= http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/08/sleeping-with-your-phone-on-charge-could-make-you-fat-4898488/ ]widely reported, including here[/url]
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Perhaps by putting the phone in the drawer she's mentally switching off from it and is more relaxed as a result.
Having the phone right there by the bed may make her feel she has to be prepared to answer it ant any moment?
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Same reasoning that keeping your phone in your pocket rather than a manbag can decreace your sperm count by a half.
Have you got any proper, not wiki, links to that?
Well, seeing as phone signal drops quite a bit when I go indoors, it doesn't seem beyond credulity that putting it in the drawer reduces it further.
Well it does - house is made of two layers of bricks/concrete, drawer is only made from thin wood.
Phone would still ring if you called it and it was in a drawer, no?
Try switching it off, see if that helps.
I can give her another anecdote - my phone on my bedside table does not affect me. So that completely disproves it.. doesn't it..?
Maybe she has a faraday cage built into the bed side table?
my wife occasionally reads this, so there's a chance i'll get caught...
my wonderful, intelligent, part-time-loony wife has decided that the sat-nav places an unnecessarily large demand on the cars fuel consumption, so we don't use it till we're practically lost*.
(*ok, i suspect she mostly just finds it annoying, so has come up with the fuel-consumption argument as she knows i'll go with it, as i'm an obsessive mpg-chaser)
Thats a typical woman's response.
She says something, you ask some questions which she takes as a personal affront / criticism and it all gets nasty.
The trick is to fein interest without actually saying too much. I could tell from the OP where that was headed.
I turn my phone off and leave it downstairs - I'm proper careful.
so we don't use it till we're practically lost
And then drive extra miles to get unlost?
Mrs Ming walked into the living room whilst I was watching a documentary about the Falklands War and commented "I don't know why your watching that, we lost!". I had to check if I had fallen into a mirror mirror universe!
Oh and then there was the comment about ships sailing the wrong way across/along the channel. That really required some working out on my part. Apparently ships should only travel across to France and back.
The actual story is that charging your phone while you sleep can make you fat.
FFS - [u]do not, repeat DO NOT[/u] even consider mentioning that bit. That will start a whole new line of conversation from which there is no escape.
To those people querying why you should have a phone in your bedroom - you should because it's a safety consideration. It's a sensible precaution to have a means of phoning emergency services if there is a fire. You should also close your bedroom door as this will give you more chance to survive.
Good point about the phone but I'll keep my door open so I can hear the smoke alarm and I'd probably want to go and get my son.
Well, seeing as phone signal drops quite a bit when I go indoors, it doesn't seem beyond credulity that putting it in the drawer reduces it further. And it probably moves it futher from your head too.Same reasoning that keeping your phone in your pocket rather than a manbag can decreace your sperm count by a half.
Large chunks of dense matter absorbs signal strength. Brick walls and whatnot are quite large and dense. However, chipboard drawers aren't that large (even if they are reasonably dense).
That aside, just so as you know, if the received network signal is weaker, the phone will turn up its own output.
Lastly, simply owning a manbag will reduce your sperm count by half.
molgrips - Member
I can give her another anecdote - my phone on my bedside table does not affect me. So that completely disproves it.. doesn't it..?
That reminds me of a quote I nicked off twitter: "The plural of anecdote is not data."
...chipboard drawers...
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[/img]I'd like to say they're finest English oak. If only they weren't from some furniture outlet in Luton. Oh the shame! 😳
You let your wife talk?
I got accused of wasting water last Sunday because I ran the washing machine with just my riding kit in it (had a good reason - it was spattered in dog s**t)
I was sternly reminded that 'we're on a water meter, and the cost keeps going up'
She then spent the rest of the day washing 3 loads of the Tie-dye crafts she'd been doing with the Brownies...
Brownies..... liked what you did there 😀