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[i]The Beatles gained from coming from such an important place as Liverpool and gave them some extra kudos in the beginning.[/i]
EH? I mean, I obviously wasn't there at the beginning, but that is just bonkers.
I was seventeen living in Bradford when the Beatles charted with 'Love me do', quickly followed by From Me to You, She Loves You & I Want to Hold Your Hand etc etc.
You had to be around in the early sixties to appreciate that most of the records of the day weren't exactly pop songs. The Beatles were like a breath of fresh air in those days and everyone bought their records & constantly chatted about them.
Having said that, in 1963 the Stones appeared with their 'Come on' and 'I wanna be your man' which garnered another fan base
Surely it was the otherway round to a large extent.
There was absolutely no advantage coming from Liverpool (although there was, massively, after the Beatles had made it the world renown home of popular music/mersey sound/beat) As the capital city, London was the centre of music, fashion, art, etc, in Britain.
I don't know why people underestimate the effect and influence of the Beatles so much.
How Liverpool was once voted European Capital of Culture is anybody's guess. I'd have thought London, Paris or Barcelona would get that accolade.
Paris has already been a European Capital of Culture.
Also, since 2004, "the beneficial socio-economic development and impact for the chosen city are now also considered in determining the chosen cities."
"A city is not chosen as a European Capital of Culture solely for what it is, but mainly for what it plans to do for a year that has to be exceptional."
That might explain the Liverpool v London point.
[url= http://ec.europa.eu/culture/our-programmes-and-actions/capitals/choosing-a-capital_en.htm ]More info[/url]
Perhaps you should write to the Commission and demand to see their methodology for choosing a city in the UK other than London to receive any sort of cultural recognition, and then tell them why their reasoning was flawed?
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Were the Beatles from Liverpool? You'd never know it really. You'd think the city council would make more of a song and dance about it really
.How Liverpool was once voted European Capital of Culture is anybody's guess. I'd have thought London, Paris or Barcelona would get that accolade
ideas of culture have progressed to include that which falls outside of the classical canon.
good job too.
[i]I don't know why people underestimate the effect and influence of the Beatles so much.[/i]
Probably because they judge things by their (lack of) musical taste.
McCartney CANNOT SING - End of...Surely he knows this himself ..ort is he tone deaf?
D28boy + 1
I think that is the most important point. Whatever he might have done in the past he just can't sing as well as he used to .... the same could be said for some of the other "stars" as well. So use some younger talent who can still hit the notes they wrote..
Yeah, that's what it's all about. Maybe he should get the winner of "The Voice" to sing for him? I'm sure he/she (whoever it was) could hit all the right notes eh? 🙄
The best Beatles song ever! 😉
There was much more to 60s music than Beatles. You had to be an avid fan or very tollerant not to be annoyed Sir Paul's never-ending playout to Hey Jude.
So use some younger talent who can still hit the notes they wrote..
Like Cheryl?
[very bad Macca joke]
Paul McCartney comes home one day and says kids I've got some bad news and some good news, the bad news is your mother, Linda, is dead...
The good news is we are having steak for tea...........
[/very bad Macca joke]
IGMC
Anyhow in answer to the OP's question:
[i]There was much more to 60s music than Beatles[/i]
you ain't called Edukator for nothing eh?
So use some younger talent
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I think it was a jolly good thing, that Cliff Richard was there to really rock the stage.
Everything I type on STW is blindingly obvious, to me at least and sometimes to others.
He's there, for the simple reason that Ringo is busy doing Thomas.
Ringo has given up the Thomas thing, apparantly it's Pierce Brosnan now.......
i was glad to see mcartney on the piano tbh, was a nice change to see him fingering something with more than one leg.
I work in an open-plan office. Can I please have some warning the next time someone posts something as funny as that?
I nearly spat my cheese and tomato sarnie out all over my desk, and the physical exhaustion caused by not being able to laugh myself has left me shattered.
Every once in a while something arrives out of the blue unexpectly and creases me - posh women saying 'b***ocks' or an unexpected trump.
Childish really, but sometimes that's the only way to be.....
Can't stand McCartney, by far and away the worst Beatle, just about everything he's done post Beatles has been shite, save maybe for the Frog Chorus....
Strikes me that McCartney made the Beatles marketable, but any genuine edge and brilliance was down to Lennon. Maybe there was some kind of synergy between the two that helped, but without Lennon they would probably have been Freddie and the Dreamers. Or as Alan Partidge put it, "Who are Wings? They're only the band the Beatles could have been."
Strikes me that McCartney made the Beatles marketable, but any genuine edge and brilliance was down to Lennon. Maybe there was some kind of synergy between the two that helped, but without Lennon they would probably have been Freddie and the Dreamers. Or as Alan Partidge put it, "Who are Wings? They're only the band the Beatles could have been."
I know I shouldn't bite - but this opinion is incorrect. Whatever you think about McCartney now in his 60s (or is it 70s?) he brought just as much "edge' and innovation to the Beatles as Lennon did.
He wrote Helter Skelter, Eleanor Rigby, Paperback Writer, For No One, Get Back, Good Day Sunshine, Got to Get You Into My Life, Sgt Pepper, You Never Give me Your Money, played the solo on Taxman etc etc etc etc.
He wrote Helter Skelter, Eleanor Rigby, Paperback Writer, For No One, Get Back, Good Day Sunshine, Got to Get You Into My Life, Sgt Pepper, You Never Give me Your Money, played the solo on Taxman etc etc etc etc.
Don't forget The Frog Song
I know I shouldn't bite - but this opinion is incorrect
There's nothing to bite about - I wasn't goading Paul McCartney fans. I was offering an opinion, which to be fair is no more "incorrect" than yours. I don't dispute McCartney's ability, but I genuinely believe that it was Lennon's maverick genius that lifted them above a lot of their contemporaries.
Spurred on by the comment up there about Elton being like vic reeves pub singer, I just looked up his jubilee performance on youtube.
As soon as he opened his mouth I properly lolled 😆
That dinnerlady look 😆
I'm off to look for Macca now..
Don't forget The Frog Song
Lennon wrote some crap too, as well as some excellent stuff. They both wrote some pretty varied stuff - they experimented and offered a whole variety of stuff which appealed (and sometimes didn't appeal) to different people.
And experimenting and trying different things is no bad thing, even if it doesn't always work. Sticking to a known formula which gives sure guaranteed results is not what made the Beatles the most famous band in the world, innovation is wot done it.
The reason everyone remembers the The Frog Song is because it worked - it was the right song for the right job - both for the cartoon film and for the christmas charts. The reason people tend not to remember Lennon's crap songs is because they tended not to work.
As I said previously, I was never the Beatles greatest one fan, but that doesn't detract from the fact that they were the most influential band the world has ever seen. And since the Beatle Era represents a period during the Queen's reign when there was a particularly feel-good factor, and people were immensely proud of the world's focus on Britain, I think it was rather fitting that Paul McCartney was invited to preform at a concert to mark 60 years of her reign. Even though his not-very-good voice is now even worse.
It amuses me greatly when people talk about celebrities of yesteryear as though they were actually musicians. 🙂
They were a media friendly pop band playing the pipes in just the right way to make a lot of good little consumers trot along to the cash registers. Nothing more, nothing less.
That said... McCartney was far from the worst performer of the whole sorry debacle.
I can only 🙄
I think it's sad to see something that should have been put out of our misery ages ago continually given exposure and pushed to the front of our minds whether we like it or not. I do find some elements actually a bit offensive and an attack on my intelligence. There's a comes a time when something should just be left alone to die with a bit of dignity and self respect.
As for Macca, I can take him or leave him.
i actually think that macca, and elton john should retire gracefully, its better to be remembered for being great than for being . .well a bit sad really.
im not being ageist, but there comes a time when you just cant hit the notes that you did when you were younger.
as a complete contrast, i was surprised by tom jones who isnt that much younger than the other two, he's still got 'it'.
not a TJ fan tbh, prefer iron maiden.
sorry about my earlier joke causing any problems at work.
lol.