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The FBI found enough emails to make it worth formally re-opening their investigation.

Decided to read then, hope there is something interesting otherwise another waste of time and money.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-four-ways-forward-for-clinton-after-the-fbi-news/?ex_cid=2016-forecast
If there is another decent Trump tape then I'd expect it shortly...


 
Posted : 30/10/2016 9:18 pm
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Don't be insulting, it's been civil so far.

Apologies.

Equal rights go beyond gay rights.

You can't be against gay rights and still claim to be for equal rights. It's paradoxical. I know she's changed her tune now (political expedience?) but she clearly hasn't been properly equal rights since before college.

And Bernie could switch for Clinton and wipe the floor with Trump, yes. I think it more likely that Tim Kaine would step up, given the DNC's documented campaign of collision against Bernie, but he's more of an unknown and would probably struggle.

That's all what-ifs though. It'll probably be Clinton, and she'll probably be less bad than Trump, and the world will keep turning.


 
Posted : 30/10/2016 9:35 pm
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Stuff like this probably doesn't help her . . . .


 
Posted : 30/10/2016 9:44 pm
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To be fair, The Donald is no better...


 
Posted : 30/10/2016 9:51 pm
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Agree.


 
Posted : 30/10/2016 9:58 pm
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Why do so many people in the US believe Hillary is untrustworthy?

Skillful manipulation of any misjudgement and sharp practice in the last twenty years?

Thing is, Clinton is a true politician, and all the machinations and questionable tactics that come with it.

Trump is an anti-politician (as well as the antichrist). His bombast and arseholish behavior convinces simpletons that he is 'a straight-shooter'. Truth is, they're made for each other, but I would rather have Mr Tumble as US president than that abomination Donald Trump. Still, it's **** all to do with me, so they're not asking me.

As elections contests go, this has plumbed new depths, even by American standards.


 
Posted : 30/10/2016 10:01 pm
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Danny add to that the fact she has the wrong gonads and you have the answer


 
Posted : 30/10/2016 11:53 pm
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Trump is corrupt and apparently so is Clinton but not so much.

As bad as each other really.

Republicans screwed up by nominating Trump as Clinton would have had at least some challenge.

Who knows? Brexit was a surprise for some!


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 12:30 am
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To which i can only say:


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 2:33 am
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Trump of course has multiple lawsuits and trials lurking in the future some with dates set shortly after the election. clinton - nothing.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 8:12 am
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Its plain to see that Comey is trying to influence the election

but considering Trump appears to have had help from Russia and Wikileaks I dont think that will bother too many people

Not that I dont think there wont be anything dodgy in these emails, Im sure that clinton has skeletons weve no idea about in her closet.

Its just fairly obvious that the FBI is being used as a tool by its (republican) director
.......who himself is now being investigated for breaking the law!

Im thinking that america needs to take a time out and think about its political process


 
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Trump of course has multiple lawsuits and trials lurking in the future some with dates set shortly after the election. clinton - nothing.
POSTED 2 HOURS AGO # REPORT-POST.
Yeah, but like you said:
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No ninfan - innocent until proven guilty remember?
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Posted : 31/10/2016 11:07 am
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Its plain to see that Comey is trying to influence the election
but considering Trump appears to have had help from Russia and Wikileaks I dont think that will bother too many people
Not that I dont think there wont be anything dodgy in these emails, Im sure that clinton has skeletons weve no idea about in her closet.
Its just fairly obvious that the FBI is being used as a tool by its (republican) director
.......who himself is now being investigated for breaking the law!

FBI doing their job, investigating potential criminality with new info now available (650,000 emails to search)

AFAIK FBI directir is not being investigated, a Democrat Senator made an allegation and at the moment thats it

Things Russian hackers or Wikileaks may have done may well have assisted Trump but the motivation of
both has been revenge against Obama/Clinton administration.

Feedback and news coverage from the US suggests Americans care very much about the email scandal


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 11:53 am
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Feedback and news coverage from the US suggests Americans care very much about the email
scandal

Fox news?
Most analysis I've read have it that the majority of people have made their minds up already. Trump had a great opportunity and screwed up by chasing the converted not the potential. Instead of chanting lock her up he needed to appeal to people like the women of the rep party who have deserted him.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 11:57 am
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We'll know in a week, the only poll that matters


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 12:13 pm
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650,000 emails to search)

Sounds like a lot, in sure that the FBI have the resources and software to pretty quickly establish if there anything dodgy in there.

Comey was warned by several colleagues that he could be influencing the election by releasing a statement ( which would be illegal) , before he knew what the content was.

He chose to ignore that advice and boom !

Now the Trump supporters get even more fired up and deplorable


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 12:14 pm
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We'll know in a week, the only poll that matters

It's almost as if your getting all excited there... what was your US source?


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 12:21 pm
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Now the Trump supporters get even more fired up and deplorable

Trump supporter or another DNC plant?

[i]"We have mentally ill people that we pay to do shit, make no mistake. Over the last twenty years i have paid off a few homeless guys to do some crazy stuff, and I've also taken them for dinner, and I've also made sure they had a hotel and a shower and I've out them in a program. Like I've done that"[/i]


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 1:44 pm
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We'll know in a week, the only poll that matters

And as we know from the Brexit thread we'll have to find something else to chat about after the vote.


 
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Posted : 31/10/2016 2:39 pm
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Oh dear oh dear oh dear - turns out Trump was right, Hilary [b]was[/b] being leaked questions in advance of debates:

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Posted : 31/10/2016 5:32 pm
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Indeed ninfan, debates have far too much focus so are therefore open to abuse

Mike business contacts and family


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 5:43 pm
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thats just preparation ninfan ๐Ÿ˜‰

still keep worrying about some emails that hilary may or may not have sent on someone elses computer that werent illegal the last time they checked

meanwhile trump faces trial in November accused of racketeering and in December, accused of child rape


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 5:46 pm
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[s]And how much tax did he pay again?
I believe it's acceptable to stroke a cat in this coutry. But what would Donald do?[/s]

[s]FFS![/s]
I can't be arsed anymore with the pro Trumpette puppets.
Calling that abuse is farcical compared to the abuses that the Trumpette gets away with and the dumbshit supporters accept.
I'm embarrassed for you.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 5:54 pm
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Hilary was being leaked questions in advance of debates:

she would of needed a good memory as it dated 3rd may ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 5:58 pm
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she would of needed a good memory as it dated 3rd may

"One of the questions directed to HRC [b]tomorrow[/b]"

Although saying that, she did suffer certain health issues that erased her memory of much of the info the FBI asked her to recount. Maybe it [i]was[/i] a struggle to remember stuff from the previous day.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 6:12 pm
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@kimbers they are many 10's of thousands of emails they haven't seen, deleted via bleaching. She can delete them at her end but they will be out there somewhere else.

Trump speaking in Michigan a state that was thought to be a safe Democrat state. He has gone there as he niw thinks he has a chance there.


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 6:36 pm
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yup totally unbiased then ๐Ÿ˜‰
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/fbis-comey-opposed-naming-russians-citing-election-timing-source.html

meanwhile


 
Posted : 31/10/2016 10:05 pm
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She refuses to address evidence that [url= http://micahielnicholson.wixsite.com/everlastingfather2 ]she is a white supremist who is plotting to destroy black women.[/url]


 
Posted : 02/11/2016 12:26 pm
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She refuses to address evidence that she is a white supremist who is plotting to destroy black women.

Pah!

From a genuine US poll:

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Posted : 02/11/2016 1:07 pm
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And the FBI clears Clinton...again.

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37892138 ]Link to BBC[/url]


 
Posted : 06/11/2016 11:01 pm
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so 25 years of politically inspired investigations costing hundreds of millions and not a single misdemeanour charge brought? she must be cleaner than almost any other politician on earth


 
Posted : 06/11/2016 11:11 pm
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I think some not government employed hackers in Russia are in trouble

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Posted : 06/11/2016 11:19 pm
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Here in the Midwest there is a strong trend of "Hillary hating". I can't even stand in line at the grocery store without overhearing "300,000 emails", "Benghazi", or simply "that bitch". It's utterly infuriating! I swear the majority of people voting for Trump just want to keep her out.... Democracy isn't worth a damn if everyone gets suckered into believing lies and accusations by the opposition. ๐Ÿ˜ก


 
Posted : 06/11/2016 11:34 pm
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Astroturf Track World . .


 
Posted : 07/11/2016 12:49 am
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brilliant summary here

https://www.ft.com/content/41f9b0fa-a43c-11e6-8898-79a99e2a4de6

How did Hillary Clinton go from being rated as the most admired woman that Americans โ€œhave heard about or read about, living in any part of the worldโ€, in the words of an annual Gallup poll that she has topped for the past 14 years, to being equated with the disgraced Richard Nixon? And how did Donald Trump, her opponent, go from a history of corporate bankruptcies that made others pay the cost of his business failures, and from a record of racial discrimination, exploiting illegal labour, and predatory behaviour towards women, to being a viable candidate for the presidency of the US?

According to the fact-checking website Politifact, for instance, she is more honest than any of her 2016 opponents, yet Mr Trump attacks her as โ€œCrooked Hillaryโ€. He is rated as accurate only 4 per cent of the time, yet he calls her more corrupt than any other presidential candidate and insists that, if elected, she should be impeached. Mr Trump believes in the โ€œbig lieโ€: if a falsehood is big enough, and told often enough, it will win out.


 
Posted : 07/11/2016 2:14 pm
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