[Closed] Who's watching the C4 programme about Luton? EDL vs radical Islam

It's doing a fine job of proving that all extremists, of whatever persuasion, are complete and utter muppets!

Who you calling an extremist Binners?
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I quite liked the woman sighing and wishing that the boys would stop their pissing contest.

I thought I wanted to learn something about the state of extremism the UK..

I couldn't stomach it for more than a few minutes though

Gripping.

Both the EDF hard men, and the warriors of islam seem to like doing their gobbling off from behind the safety of a police cordon

TandemJeremy - Member

Who you calling an extremist Binners?

The Muppets I believe.

And he's not far wrong :

[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/shortcuts/2011/dec/06/muppet-movies-communist-plots-revealed ]Muppet movies: their communist plots revealed[/url]

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waste of space the lot of them, I'm all for freedom of speech but they're all just trying to stir up sngst that isn't there

Anyone else think we should just take all this lot, put them in a room together and then, well, who cares what happens as they'll all be in a room somewhere out of the way and we can get on with not being surrounded by knobbers.

think theyre all uneducated idiots that base their ideals on uter crap that 99% of comes from the media..

well not the shariah law (dont think the daily mail came up with that)

Lots of people are afraid of any implementation of islamic religious law, but the same people tend not to be bothered about the beth din.

Northwind - Member

Lots of people are afraid of any implementation of islamic religious law, but the same people tend not to be bothered about the beth din.

I dunno, her tast in clothes is appaling, but shes got a decent voice.
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I salute you sir. The joke was merely good, but the choice of photo was a triumph.

Northwind - Member

Lots of people are afraid of any implementation of islamic religious law, but the same people tend not to be bothered about the beth din.

Cos they aint stoning women and cutting people heads off init.

That photographer's face speaks volumes!

Did someone mention EDF hardmen above? Do they go into reactors without their PPE?

😉

In all seriousness, I dont believe that a religious court should have any status in law.

If people volunteer to be judged by their peers, then so be it, as long as no judgements passed are legally binding, in anyway recognised in law or take the place of the established legal process.

Amen, brother.

Anyone else think we should just take all this lot, put them in a room together and then, well, who cares what happens as they'll all be in a room somewhere out of the way and we can get on with not being surrounded by knobbers.

Both the EDF hard men, and the warriors of islam seem to like doing their gobbling off from behind the safety of a police cordon

They may think they're hard but when it comes to action they're all talk. I mean, the EDF totally failed to deliver on their promise to reduce my domestic heating and electricity bills. Scum.

Was it just me, or did all the veiled female Muslim protesters, kicking off...

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Have an air of, well......

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I live in a totally "white area"and its very rare to see a coloured person.My doctor and dentist are the only ones.
I know that most of the population around here will have thoughts similar to the EDF.A pub landlord told me all his customers are racist and will make comments quite openly.
Where's the dividing line between someone wanting to maintain Christian values in what is still a Christian country and a racist.
Do i want to see women covered head to to toe in black showing only their eyes in my high street.No i don't.I can't see the colour of the woman beneath so am i a racist.
The leader of the EDF reminded me of a football hooligan from the eighties and if the EDF do want a way forward and a rational voice then he's not the guy.
Can't wait to see the programme on Thursday night about Bradford as i used to live there.

[i]what is still a Christian country [/i]

here we go...

It's EDL not EDF ffs! EDF are an energy company.

As you were...

I know that most of the population around here will have thoughts similar to the EDF

😆

EDIT: Beaten by Tom 🙁

EDF slogan = "Power to the People"

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Don't talk to me about EDF, the bastards.

I call it a collision of arseholes

Another programme that makes me think "Who'd be a copper?"

joeegg - Member

Where's the dividing line between someone wanting to maintain Christian values in what is still a Christian country and a racist.

Its not - its a secular country. anyone wanting to maintain "cristian values" is as bad and is highly offensive to me

Do i want to see women covered head to to toe in black showing only their eyes in my high street.No i don't.I can't see the colour of the woman beneath so am i a racist.

Why does it matter to you? What business of yours is it what people wear

Just remember, the arseholes are in the minority on both sides, everyone else is just getting on with their lives..

The attitude of the coppers really impressed me. They all wore a look of studied disinterest, like a teacher ignoring a class of unruly children.

[i]Its not - its a secular country. anyone wanting to maintain "cristian values" is as bad and is highly offensive to me[/i]

Strictly speaking it's not a secular country. But I know what you mean.

[i]Why does it matter to you? What business of yours is it what people wear[/i]

Quite. When are you lot going to let that rambler wander about wearing what he likes? 🙂

I'm all for the concept of a fight field. Let these muppets go off to a field to settle their differences. I'm sure there must be an underutilised bit of the Falklands we can use.

wwaswas - Member
what is still a Christian country

here we go...

Hi. Shall I start? 😆

Nooooooooo!!!!! 😯

I thought it a very illuminating program and not a little scary.
Perhaps the most telling part for me (they played it twice)was the beared one asking "what do you stand for" of the guy in his car. A very challenging question in todays society.

A very challenging question in todays society.

really..?

surely anyone not replying with a simple two word answer of tolerance and respect should be fired into space from a cannon..?

(I appreciate the irony of that statement)

surely anyone not replying with a simple two word answer of tolerance and respect should be fired into space from a cannon..?

Well, he'd get two words from me. And the cannon trip sounds fun. 😀

khani - Member
Just remember, the arseholes are in the minority on both sides, everyone else is just getting on with their lives..

Enough about STW, what about the EDL.....<boom, boom>

TandemJeremy - Member

joeegg - Member

Where's the dividing line between someone wanting to maintain Christian values in what is still a Christian country and a racist.

Its not - its a secular country. anyone wanting to maintain "cristian values" is as bad and is highly offensive to me

Time out!

I thought it was very interesting, and the bloke in the EDL did have some valid points, however what I found most interesting was that sayful islam or whatever he was called, had about twenty people following him and the EDL is massive, quite impressive that he has built such a huge organisation to oppose his minority group.

That and what the moderate Imham was saying that the EDL have a point about fundamentalists, however they then seem to have lost the plot about differentiating between normal Muslims and the loonies with microphones.

I did feel for the Police though especially when they were guarding them Muslim group as they were attempting to disrupt the 9/11 memorial service in London, by using megaphones to say that the 3000 people deserved what happened to them .....

Do i want to see women covered head to to toe in black showing only their eyes in my high street.No i don't.I can't see the colour of the woman beneath so am i a racist.

Even as a card carrying Guardianista, this also makes me feel pretty uncomfortable. I still support their right to wear it though.

Interesting watching the T20 cricket last night, there was quite a few women ****stani supporters in the crowd - most weren't even wearing headscarves including the ****stani foreign minister. We always see ****stan portrayed as a very conservative Muslim country, but perhaps a lot of the burka wearing etc in this country is a reaction to feeling under attack? (Sorry for random wittering, I'm not very well 🙂 )

Its not - its a secular country. anyone wanting to maintain "cristian values" is as bad and is highly offensive to me

I find your fundamentalist atheist views offensive, TJ. Please apologise 😉

I did feel for the Police though especially when they were guarding them Muslim group as they were attempting to disrupt the 9/11 memorial service in London, but using megaphones to say that the 3000 people deserved what happened to them .....

That right there would see the end of my tolerance and respect.