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Right click on stupid picture.
left click on " block all pictures from gravatar.com.

problem solved.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:01 am
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but everyone else will still see what I look like 😉


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:11 am
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yes round and yellow with a squint in one eye


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:16 am
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oh, I was just getting used to being a green triangle.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:18 am
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Mine is me - simples


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:19 am
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On a more serious note Magicalia have either been hacked or stopped paying its bills. bikemagic.com would appear to be up for grabs. 😐


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:26 am
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I don't understand this at all.
Every other forum I use I can either upload an avatar or link to one hosted elsewhere.
Why is this one different ?
What's Gravatar ?
Why do they want my email address ?


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:34 am
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http://en.gravatar.com/


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:35 am
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grvatar claims to be used on many sites, but this is the only one I have ever seen it on.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:37 am
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Eduaktor - wierd - www.bikemagic.com seems to work but not without the www.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:40 am
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grvatar claims to be used on many sites, but this is the only one I have ever seen it on.

I've seen it on a fair few others , mainly techy sites and blogs etc

My main issue is that I don't want to have the same picture on a chatty mountain bike site that I also use on a professional techy site, but I do want to use the same email address. So I don't bother with it.

And no, I don't [i]think[/i] that gravatar requires STW to share your email address with them. (No reason that it should anyway)


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:45 am
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But your link isn't Bikemagic wwaswas, it's an ad for the bikemagic.com domaine name. Bikemagic is/used to be a site like this one but with a largely unmoderated forum.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:54 am
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and I have a fish


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:57 am
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Edukator - for me it's the 'real' bike magic complete with forum et al.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 10:58 am
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Thanks wwaswas. I'm getting a very green Network Solutions page. Bizarre.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:02 am
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as I said - I get that 'for sale' page if I don't put the www on the front of the bikemagic.com bit when I type it into the browser.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:04 am
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Edukator http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:05 am
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No, I still don't get it.
Why not just upload an avatar like any other forum ?


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:08 am
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And no, I don't think that gravatar requires STW to share your email address with them. (No reason that it should anyway)

but you do to get your own gravatar, as the pic id is keyed to your email address: "The next part of the URL is the hexadecimal MD5 hash of the requested user's lowercased email address with all whitespace trimmed, for example the fictitious "iHaveAn@email.com" would have a hash of '3b3be63a4c2a439b013787725dfce802' "


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:09 am
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How is that supposed to help Drac? I am using www. wwaswas.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:12 am
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Edukator - there does seem to be some DNS shannigans going on.

the url is still owned by the same people but is resolving to the page you are seeign.

Edit:

WHOOPS - Record expires on 17-Mar-2010.

they forgot to renew their registration...


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:19 am
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No, I still don't get it.
Why not just upload an avatar like any other forum ?

Advantage for STW: less load on the hamsters because everyone's pics are held on the gravatar servers.

(Theoretical) Advantage for you: upload one image and it will appear on every Gravatar-enabled website without having to faff about uploading it to each one separately.

but you do to get your own gravatar, as the pic id is keyed to your email address

Yes it is [u]keyed[/u] to your email address, but as you point out they use an MD5 hash. In other words they generate a unique number from your email address and send that to Gravatar when requesting your pic.

They don't share your actual email address to gravatar, so there is no breach of data protection.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:20 am
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Ta, not just me then, I thought it might be an ISP sensitive but looks like they just need to pay up.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:23 am
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More details;

Domain Name: BIKEMAGIC.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS1.PENDINGRENEWALDELETION.COM
Name Server: NS2.PENDINGRENEWALDELETION.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 23-mar-2010
Creation Date: 17-mar-1999
Expiration Date: 17-mar-2011

too late I fear - this lot will want £1000's to release it back to them I think.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:23 am
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[i]Advantage for STW: less load on the hamsters because everyone's pics are held on the gravatar servers.[/i]
Fair enough. So why not allow linking to an offsite avatar on Flickr or wherever ?


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:28 am
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Now that i know I'm stranded on STW I suppose I'd better make an on-topic post: my gravatar looks just like me - how did they know? I don't even have a web cam.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:32 am
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Fair enough. So why not allow linking to an offsite avatar on Flickr or wherever ?

Not sure, but I can guess the theory:

- gravatar means everyone's pic is the same size, so much easier to layout the page.

- [i]I think[/i] gravatar is moderated, so no offensive images.

- no need for users to know about technical stuff like image URLs. As long as they know their own email address it will work.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:38 am
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The truth is I was having a look round the settings and saw that I could swap the generic grey image with the auto generated face one. So I clicked on it.

Nothing more, nothing less.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:40 am
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'Finger trouble' eh?


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:41 am
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Tsk, you should know nothing prompts fear in herds of middle-age men like unexpected change.

Change is bad. 😀


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:41 am
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It brings out the inner autistic in all of us.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:43 am
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FYI in the near* future you will be able to upload your own avatar. And there will be other positive changes for everyone to have a little moan about.

*near is relative.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:47 am
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They don't share your actual email address to gravatar, so there is no breach of data protection.

what I meant is, to set up your own gravatar you have to go to their site to upload the pic and supply your own email to identify yourself to them


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:50 am
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FYI in the near* future you will be able to upload your own avatar. And there will be other positive changes for everyone to have a little moan about

Instead of playing around with little pictures, d'you fancy rolling your sleeves up & lifting the bonnet on the search engine? 😉


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:53 am
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Instead of playing around with little pictures, d'you fancy rolling your sleeves up & lifting the bonnet on the search engine?

We are moving the main site over to the new server this week sometime, then sorting the search.

Which takes considerably more effort than 'ooh, pretty pictures, click'. 8)


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 11:57 am
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[i]How is that supposed to help Drac? I am using www[/i]

Then type in the www address.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 12:33 pm
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> They don't share your actual email address to gravatar, so there is no breach of data protection.

what I meant is, to set up your own gravatar you have to go to their site to upload the pic and supply your own email to identify yourself to them

Yep, so if you want to have a gravatar then the price you pay for getting server space and bandwidth from them is that you supply them with your email address. (Same with flickr, Picasa etc)

I was trying to answer these concerns:

wwaswas - Member
mmm, so does this mean that stw have given gravatar my email address to generate this thing?
I don't recall giving them permission to do that.

MilitantGraham - Member
What's Gravatar ?
Why do they want my email address ?

To which (as I understand it) the answers are: STW haven't given gravatar your email address. You can opt to do that yourself and it will allow you to upload your own pic if you do. If you don't then that is fine.


 
Posted : 23/03/2010 12:48 pm
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I have it now - STW sends the hashed email to gravatar with ?d=wavatar on the end, which generates a pseudo-random pic like these if that email does not have a user-uploaded image:
[img] [/img]

it is extremely difficult to get back from the hash to your email address - as explained on [url= http://en.gravatar.com/site/faq/ ]gravatar's site[/url] if you're interested

[url= http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=1462 ]more here[/url]


 
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