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Ah! Classic making progress. Best thing in future is don’t speed. Will get where you’re going about thirty seconds later than planned, use less fuel and no risk of points, fine etc.
You probably shouldn't have been driving either, with poor blood sugar - my son's T1, probably didn't help clear thinking when you put that pedal down.
No1 - take a break and look after your bloods. My son's due to change his pump soon, only a year late and a year out of warrenty (NHS).
Glad I don’t live in Aus, Licence would be in tatters and I’d probably be wanted for arson of government property.😂
some people can’t help being dicks can they?
Just like people who drive 45km over the speed limit because they can't wait behind the car Infront for a few seconds longer?
The smart arse posters above are the thread equivalent of those annoying drivers that do 55 in a 60, and then 40 in a 30.
Naaaah mate, I just am able to read a number on a sign and keep my speed below (or mostly at) it. Lived for years in a village blighted by speeding drivers who think they know better up to the point some poor sod gets mangled by one, but even that doesn’t stop them.
I wasn’t asking for or expecting opinions but obvs this is stw and some people can’t help being dicks can they?
If you don't want opinions, don't post on a public forum. As for people being dicks...
Maybe write your thoughts in black and white using Notepad.exe next time.
God forbid anyone in this forum is less than perfect and has the audacity to admit it.
I must admit, it's going to be fun watching the fallout when one of you self righteous gits falls from grace.
I must admit, it’s going to be fun watching the fallout when one of you self righteous gits falls from grace.
Don’t worry about keeping a list, I am sure one of those awesome people who love to pull up comments made on threads from 5 years ago to prove a point will sort it out for you.
You don’t want to be that guy 😆
Ah! Classic making progress. Best thing in future is don’t speed. Will get where you’re going about thirty seconds later than planned
Only if he's only planning on driving 333metres....
OP.
Not sure why you posted this to start with.
Some people seem to be confusing KPH with MPH and you seem to care what some dickheads* on an mtb forum think. Even though most posters don't even live in the same country as you.
* myself included. Though you just seem like a normal guy that's got cought and fessed up to me.
Well said Squirrelking
One of the things I hate about this place is how self righteous it is. So all of you being sanctimonious about this never drive above the speed limit yourself, right?
JP
We all get our day(s) in court I suppose
Only if you're a criminal
God forbid anyone in this forum is less than perfect and has the audacity to admit it.
I must admit, it’s going to be fun watching the fallout when one of you self righteous gits falls from grace.
Nice. I used to be perfect, but now I need reading glasses. I’ve never broken the speed limit though. I cycle everywhere at an average speed little more than 10 mph, but I’ve only ever been late for anything three times in my life. There is no need to speed.
I would genuinely love to know what someone would need to do whilst driving a car, to receive unanimous condemnation on here!?
It’s a pretty stern punishment to lose your car for 28 days, but considering your speed I think it’s fair.
I’ve not been in Australia (Perth) long, but generally most people seem to stick roughly to the limits. Doing 125kph would seem fast in a 110kph zone, but in an 80kph zone you’d be a rarity. You could probably have jumped enough cars by nudging up to 90-100kph and got where you want to go.
Hopefully you can de-stress and reflect. There’s not much justification for the amount of speed you were doing.
One of the things I hate about this place is how self righteous it is. So all of you being sanctimonious about this never drive above the speed limit yourself, right?
In the last 10 years, no, not on purpose, and only by a small amount in areas I don’t know with poor signage etc. Was caught speeding by 4mph (in a 30 zone) and did a course 11 years which was really interesting and taught me a lot. I also have a job where I have to drive so taught myself to chill out and stick within the rules so as to keep it. Now driving within the limits is a habit.
It’s not hard to keep to the speed limit (anyone who says it isn’t really shouldn’t have a licence) and you don’t really get anywhere any faster (gain a few seconds maybe) if there is traffic around (which is everywhere) so why bother? I’m quite happy trundling along at 30mph or whatever the speed limit might be with a big line of irate Audi bellend drivers behind.
Hmm let’s think of the typical responses I might get - 1. jealous of the Audi drivers? Errr no I’ve got a new car thanks and could afford one if I wanted but I prefer Swedish cars, duuuh 2. so you HAVE broken the speed limit - you aren’t perfect as you say you are - yeah never said I was but the times I have done it are by accident and by tiny amounts, I don’t feel like speed limits are optional like most drivers out there, just because you don’t get caught doesn’t mean it’s ok.
I wonder if it’s a coincidence that the people I know who are the calmest and safest drivers who stick to the limits are the people who have either enforced those limits and rules in their work (traffic police, motorbike and car officers) or who have had to deal with the aftermath of big accidents which have been the result of excess speed or other rule breaking (nurses, docs, fire service).
The most recent incident I was told about was from an ex-fireman friend who told me he still gets bad dreams about the mother and child he saw burning to death in a car while they screamed for help but they couldn’t get them out or extinguish the fire quick enough, and that was one of many he had to deal with. It’s enough to make you want to walk everywhere when you hear that but the least I can do is stick to the limits, be attentive, leave big gaps and if something does happen then the affect will be reduced or eliminated.
One of the things I hate about this place is how self righteous it is. So all of you being sanctimonious about this never drive above the speed limit yourself, right?
Out of interest, do you have a list of crimes it's acceptable to commit?
To be fair even with in speeding . It's pretty grim to try and defend being that far above the speedlimit. You don't do it by accident.
Your doing it intentially because you know where you have over taken is unsafe
Out of interest, do you have a list of crimes it’s acceptable to commit?
speeding obvs
Out of interest, do you have a list of crimes it’s acceptable to commit?
Drinking sub optimal coffee and taking your time testing electric guitars are OK in my book.
Why post about this here?
Out of interest, do you have a list of crimes it’s acceptable to commit?
To be fair even with in speeding . It’s pretty grim to try and defend being that far above the speedlimit. You don’t do it by accident.
I don't think anyone has defended the crime or said it's okay, OP included. It's just some of us take the view that being a sanctimonious twunt about it only gives folk ammo for the future. Too may people on here pretending to be whiter than white (awaits accusations of racism).
Hate the sin, not the sinner and all that.
Don’t worry about keeping a list, I am sure one of those awesome people who love to pull up comments made on threads from 5 years ago to prove a point will sort it out for you.
You don’t want to be that guy 😆
Oh don't worry, I'm in no way edukated in those dark arts.
Was caught speeding by 4mph (in a 30 zone) a
Jesus, that's a fine margin. I know for a fact that my speedo reading is out by more than that.
Why havent you talked to a lawyer yet?
I know for a fact that my speedo reading is out by more than that.
Out of interest, how do you find that out? I was done for 57 in a 50, but in fairness I knew the needle was over 50. But most of my work travel is in 20/30/40 zones, so currently I just tend to drive like I have Ms Daisy with me.
Was caught speeding by 4mph
I'm guessing from the username he's not in the UK?
The UK is the odd one out when it comes to speeding tickets.
In the UK you get a ticket saying whatever the police measured your speed as, for the sake of example 38mph. If they had clocked you at 35mph you wouldn't get a ticket because that's less than the assumed margin for error (10% +3mph = 36mph), so you only ever get tickets that say above that. So because of that margin for error the ticket is effectively saying "you were doing 38mph, which is definitely above the limit".
In the rest of the world (or a lot of it anyway, there's probably others using the British system) if you were doing 38mph as in the above example you would get a ticket that says you were doing 32mph. Because once the accuracy has been deducted so the ticket is effectively saying "we can prove you were doing >32mph".
So in a lot of the world you could get a ticket for doing a seemingly harsh 31 in a 30 (but you were probably doing more like 36, and your speedo probably read 40+).
Out of interest, how do find that out? I was done for 57 in a 50, but in fairness I knew the needle was over 50. But most of my work travel is in 20/30/40 zones, so currently I just tend to drive like I have Ms Daisy with me.
Look at your satnav and speedo at the same time.
Car's have to read wthin 10% of the actual speed, and cannot under read. So you can't say "but my speedo said is was doing 50" because you'd be lying, when you're clocked at 57 it must have read between 57 and 63.
From a manufacturers perspective, they build the cars at the bottom of that 10% margin because:
a) it guarantees they're under the 'dont over read' hard limit
b) makes you feel manly and virile by flattering your speed.
Cheers @thisisnotaspoon that makes sense. I guess as I don't have a SatNav, I've never really thought, and yes my world is pretty small!! 😀 I've only been done once for a speeding offense,
so haven't really considered all the ins and outs till I did my course. I wondered when I've been in those average speed limit things on motorways why so many folk are going past me as I just tend to stick to what it says.
Lorries are IMO the worst for it, they know their limiter is set at 56mph, so they do 56mph down the middle lane of the current M4 roadworks tailgating and flashing at everything the way knowing that even with their foot to the floor they won't hit the 10%+3mph that triggers a ticket.
Everyone else sorts themselves with the inside lane doing an indicated ~49mph, and the outside doing about 10% faster, ~50 on their satnav.
Out of interest, how do you find that out?
If you Connect to the OBD port, you'll get a reading directly from the sensors, which is more accurate than the speedo. Then I did a couple of trips with the sat nav,/osmand
Then when a mate took his car to a rolling road for testing I asked them if they'd test it for few quid extra.
and cannot under read. S
They aren't supposed to but mine does. Bit of a shock to go from a car that over read by just about 10% to one that under read by nearly the same!
Oh don’t worry, I’m in no way edukated in those dark arts.
Oh the irony.
^ Que?
I predict more than a flaming pitch fork - more like they’ll pull your trousers down in public making use of the flaming hot pitch fork
🤡
Po po is what “cool” people call tbe police these days. Get with it grandad.
Eh? What? Speak up laddie... Ok! no need to shout, let me just turn my hearing aid up a bit..
Pass my stick.. I SAID PASS MY STICK!
Tut!!!
Young people these days, never had it so good.
🤠
Couple of additions. The 10% plus 3 (or 10% plus 2 in my mind) is not 'law', it seems to be generally accepted by police forces (sorry, po po fo fos) but not all forces adhere to it, and circumstances may vary.
ROADLAWBARRISTERS.CO.UK Also if you don't have a sat nav (and phones do of course, my version of google maps has an indicated speed on it) then along motorways there are markers every 0.1 miles for identifying where breakdowns / accidents are. If you find a clear stretch on a quiet day and set cruise to a speedo reading of 60mph, then get a passenger to time you along 10 markers / 1 mile, the difference between your time and 60s is the discrepancy in your speedo - eg: 66s and you're speedo's reading over by about 10%*
* not exact but the maths isn't easy in your head while driving and it's close enough. eg: 66s for one mile would indicate 54.5mph
1/ driving slower and just sitting well back from the vehicle in front will mkae you a happier person in the long run.
2/ that said I'll be helpful: those radars are old tech and you stand a good chance of being let off if there are two cars in the pic so ask for the photo.
AUTOPLUS.FR Yeah, you need to be careful when quoting the 30+10%+1 rule...
A recent FOI request made by either AA or RAC to the Police Forces that oversea each county showed that not all forces applied that rule, or any other rule other than 31 in a 30 was breaking the law and could be brought to prosecution.
The data was shared to the Ministry of Transport who said they leave local speed restrictions to local councils with guidance from the governing police force of that county, and would not intervene in any local motoring issues.
I posted the full FOI on a previous thread on speeding.. but there’s been so many threads you’d be better off seeking the FOI out yourself... but it’s there if you want to see it.
So, all I’m saying is don’t rely on the “but I’m doing 34 in a 30 so I’m fine” because you might not be.
As for someone up there posting about people who Don’t speed... I’ll just inform whomever that is that there are millions of drivers using the highways that do not speed, and do not circumvent any moral/immoral forethought you may think they have as they sit behind their steering wheels... You need to keep those attitudes in your own headspace, thanks.
I have quite a good Oz speeding story.
1. On my gap yah, I racked up numerous speeding offences in Oz on my UK license. I never paid any of them, and so my license was not in their computer system. This meant that whenever I was pulled over, nice Mr Policeman couldn't see that I had umpteen outstanding tickets, and should, by rights, be taken to the nearest station.
2. 10-years later moved to Oz as a highly respectable university lecturer, permanent resident. Went to get my UK license changed to Ozzie, and upon entering my name into the computer system, the nice young lady stood back aghast from the computer screen. Those years-old fines had been racking up interest. I owed around 18 k, and was due a lengthy driving ban. However, by some stroke of good fortune, it transpired that the WA police force had recently upgraded its computer system, and there was no way to transfer the outstanding penalties to the current NSW system. The nice young lady took the decision to drop the matter and let me start afresh as an upstanding member of the driving community.
I've never had a speeding fine since (touch wood).
I got gunned on the Eyre highway. Cop popped out from behind a bush and pointed his speed gun at me halfway along the 90 mile straight! EVERYBODY speeds on that road (except at dusk/dawn) as its sooooooo damn boring so he must have been well miffed that I had just slowed down to check out a bald headed sea eagle eating some roadkill and was only coaxing my camper van back up to terminal velocity - I guess he only had to wait another half an hour for the next victim!
What’s a Po Po?
Sounds like the police.
Nah, pretty sure they go 'whoop whoop'
that's the sound of da police
Getting pulled by her would certainly take the sting out of it.
So....
For those who asked why I posted. It's a chat forum? It was chat. Have you seen some of the other posts?
Anyway. Went to court avec lawyer. Lost my license for 6 months. Standard. Could have been fined 6k (AUD) but only fined a grand plus 200 court costs. Work have been fantastic. Totally out of character for me, wasn't in a great place in many ways. Obvs can't do my normal role so have been seconded to an acute assessment and treatment team where we home visit in pairs so I've always got a driver, I'm doing shifts and actually earning more each fortnight so I can pay my fine off. Strange roster (2 lates, 2 earlies and 2 off shifts but actually works well as I can take the kids to school on their bikes some days which is lovely. Basically I got caught speeding and I accepted it and I'm moving on. get my license back in July so heaps more time with the kids and very enjoyable riding to and from school. I actually think I came out the other side better off, in the grand scheme.
Great waffle by most btw. Very funny, some of the comments. Others, same old STW I guess.
6 months! Seems like they are a fair bit stricter in Oz. Fair enough though - thems the rules.
So has this changed your mindset regarding driving/speeding?