[Closed] Who would buy a gun then?

Firing weapons is a real buzz, albeit a short-lived one. The main reason to carry one is self-defence i suppose, although i reckon the real reason is to impress/intimidate others... I struggle to think of an occasion when such an item would've actually been useful so a pointless exercise? If i wanted to artificially inflate my self-esteem i'd probably buy some Fox 40's 😀
But i'd recommend blatting off a few rounds in a controlled environment - what a rush!

What benefit is there in owning an uzi?

Killing chavs? Overthrowing the political classes?

I bet there's hundreds of benefits!

I liked these...
[img] [/img]

No it doesn't. It supports the theory that a state with less murders has less murders committed with guns than a state that has more murders.

I'm not convinced by your argument.

The Canadians own as many guns per person as the Americans, however Canada has a low firearm crime rate.

Also the States in the US that have concealed carry laws have lower rates of rape, assault, armed robbery etc etc.

Even Michael Moore doesn't think guns are the real problem, it's Americans, in particular the American psyche.

Discuss.

Meh, who needs loads of guns. I'd be quite happy with a Colt M4 with the grenade tube. Miss with a shell or there's more than one of the thieving scrotes trying to nick your bikes and pop one out the tube at them.

[img] [/img]

misterfrostie - Member

Meh, who needs loads of guns. I'd be quite happy with a Colt M4 with the grenade tube. Miss with a shell or there's more than one of the thieving scrotes trying to nick your bikes and pop one out the tube at them.

Why you ... you are using brute force aren't you with that grenade tube. Zombies need head shot not blow them to pieces ... 🙄

double post ... 🙄

Also 40mm grenades are lethal over quite a distance, launch one of those to kill a bike thief and your going to ruin your entire garage.

And yet there are still many who are afraid of flying

Probably they are the ones that CAN read and interpret data correctly.

Flying is one of the most dangerous methods of travel (when compared journey for journey). When comparing one return holiday flight per year against a daily commute, of course that changes to being safest, but in reality it isn't.

So two ways to look at this:

1 Folk are worried and think that if they'd had a gun they'd have shot the lunatic

2 At least one more lunatic has bought a load of guns...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18980974

Guns do not exist for peaceful reasons. At least, not handguns of the kind you can coneal, which is what this is really about. They are only for shooting people, or threatening to shoot people.

Uneducated bilge.

There are competitions specially for such weapons, even in the UK until handguns went Section 5.

The Canadians own as many guns per person as the Americans, however Canada has a low firearm crime rate.

Oh I agree that there is a cultural/sociological factor. But I don't think that the figures that Zulu-Eleven offered showed that.

As for Canada, more people may have guns, but what are their laws on concealed carry, home defence and lethal force?

Also the States in the US that have concealed carry laws have lower rates of rape, assault, armed robbery etc etc.

According to wiki, 49 states have concealed carry, so saying they have lower rates than the one remaining state (Illinois) is not exactly a great sample size! (also I don't believe it is true - show me figures not NRA hearsay)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry_in_the_United_States

I would totally buy guns.
Target shooting or whatever- shooting guns is a lot of fun.
In my experience, the bigger the gun, the more fun it is.

I wouldn't buy guns, per se.

I inherited mine! 🙂

George Zimmerman, that's his name.

I was discussing gun laws with my FiL when we were over last. In Florida they now have a law known as 'Stand your Ground'. It means that if you feel threatened, you are not obliged to try and escape the situation like you are in the rest of the country; you can shoot the threatening person instead. You don't have to be on your property, it could be anyone you think is being threatening.

😯

The law's critics argue that Florida's law makes it very difficult to prosecute cases against people who shoot others and then claim self-defense. The shooter can argue they felt threatened, and in most cases, the only witness who could have argued otherwise is the victim who was shot and killed.[40] Before passage of the law, Miami police chief John F. Timoney called the law unnecessary and dangerous in that "[w]hether it's trick-or-treaters or kids playing in the yard of someone who doesn't want them there or some drunk guy stumbling into the wrong house, you're encouraging people to possibly use deadly physical force where it shouldn't be used."

This is ONLY an issue when you have ordinary people wandering around packing heat.

Remember kids, guns don't kill people, rappers do 😉

[img] [/img]

And you knows it 😆

Love this site

[url= http://www.youtube.com/user/FPSRussia?feature=watch ]FPS Russia[/url]

I operate 4 lagre and busy airsoft sites and play for a hobby. We run anything from stag do type couple of hours running around paintball style stuff all the way to military simulation games involving the use of helicopters, military vehicles, boats etc. We've even done 'anti piracy' stuff on boats in the channel, assaulting from RIBs into other vessels. I also enjoy hunting rabbits with an air rifle and have shot a fair few different weapon systems in the past.

I don't think I'd be bothered about owning a currently Sec 5 firearm though, except possibly a 'race gun' type of pistol for ISPCC style competition, although that actually works really well with airsoft replicas. Anything else, whilst I can appreciate the fun of shooting it I don't think I'd want the responsibility of owning. I'll stick with my toys and the occasional range day to play with other stuff I think.

Love this site

FPS Russia

You do realise the bloke isn't actually Russian.

@TuckerUK

Flying is one of the most dangerous methods of travel (when compared journey for journey). When comparing one return holiday flight per year against a daily commute, of course that changes to being safest, but in reality it isn't.

Really? British airlines have had zero fatalities in the last 10 years. How many road deaths have there been in that time?

UK 10 year fatality rates per billion passenger km.

UK Airlines - zero
Rail 0.2
Bus and coach 0.3
Car 2.4
Motorcycles 104

[url= https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:ezAx96pTTkcJ:www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN03760.pdf+&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgPyQjmJd2mkkEC-_N33VOggBmoCzpBWAuV-mqESwZfd4V9g0AkBWnryN-xKic5tJzE5PLEg3wOW2gMUCCvCq9GGMlm0tH_LfFQaS7IHQ3J0L_oZJSL8mwUE9jQN0rPnB1_Bd6p&sig=AHIEtbRKNb0GtWMwVp23JS-8Dx5YtxPoog&pli=1 ]UK Parliament Briefing Paper[/url]

[IMG] [/IMG]

I think Paige from Gunsmoke could persuade me to put my hand in my pocket...

derek_starship - Member

I think Paige from Gunsmoke could persuade me to put my hand in my pocket...

Ya baby ...

I really do not see any problem with people shooting people, self culling, but I really object to poachers hunting illegally. So shooting poachers should be a game i.e. hunting game, and who knows this will turn into real hunting business.

Further on from my earlier comments regarding just the gun not being enough and massive and regular training is also required, it doesn't end there. It starts being a whole way of life, you choose clothes based on how accessible your gun is or how easy and unrestricted movement is, vehicles are chosen for their tactical value, you chose certain seats in restaurants (and movie theatres)...

In the early '80s I used to take a US shooting monthly that had a regular 'shoot-out de-constructed' column. Informative, eye-opening, and also pretty scary. I've also been a long time fan of defensive firearms gurus Massad Ayoob and Jeff Cooper (amongst others). It quickly became apparent just how the firearm itself was just one small part of a whole larger program, indeed, even a whole ethos.

I think Paige from Gunsmoke could persuade me to put my hand in my pocket...

Is she part-giraffe?

I think the fact that her neck is almost as long as her head suggest that photo may have been shopped just a little bit 😀

+1 Grahams

TuckerUK - Member

..., it doesn't end there. It starts being a whole way of life, you choose clothes based on how accessible your gun is or how easy and unrestricted movement is, vehicles are chosen for their tactical value, you chose certain seats in restaurants (and movie theatres)...

... It quickly became apparent just how the firearm itself was just one small part of a whole larger program, indeed, even a whole ethos.

Nahhh ... if you are going to die you will die regardless. Guns are just guns and if you do not pull the trigger it will just a piece of metal. Now if you are a nut case that goes around shooting innocence people then I see no reason why someone else should not shoot at you too. A bit like live by the gun and die by the gun ... 🙂

I like Paige me ... with gun.

What a walt.

wrecker - Member

What a walt.

Explain. 🙄

Not you chewkw

Walt = Walter Mitty.

I think Paige from Gunsmoke could persuade me to put my hand in my pocket...

jeeezuz ****in h christ - is the gun in that picture cocked???

You do realise the bloke isn't actually Russian.

rkk01 - Member

jeeezuz **** h christ - is the gun in that picture cocked???

Yeap and ready to shoot if you go near her ... 😆

[img] [/img]

One of these would be kewell - just saying.

Hmm that didn't link..

[url=

this[/url]

i'd have a small gun with a silencer.

no more kids refusing to turn down their ipods when i'm on the train.

no more arsey walkers getting righteous.

😉

My 1 year old boy's initials are RPG, he goes off like one too!
I grew up in South Africa where the internet is still so slow I would have used the biggest gun could lay my hands on and shot the 'bleedy' computer for crashing again!

The only reason I would want to buy and own something different to my existing game/vermin shotguns and rifles would be either a zombie infestation or a total breakdown of society. I can't see the need for anything else and, to be fair, would not want to have the responsibility of carrying anything else all the time. Accidents do happen and it would not be your deployment bonus you'd be losing if you ND'd at home.

If zombies did break out though, I'd spend my savings on an HK417 and a .40 USP. I'd like to see the hordes take my house then!

Wow - thanks Willard - I've just discovered [url= http://zombie.wikia.com/wiki/NATO_5.56_PIE_cartridge ]PIE rounds on zombie pedia[/url] -I'm assuming if I'm smart enough to survive the first waves of 'world war Z' (great book)- every able body will get firm arms issued.