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Ok, so the Conservatives are going to screw the poor to make the rich even richer and Labour are going to bankrupt the country by giving all the hard earned tax money to the skiving scum that have never worked, don't want to work and are happy living off the state.
Well I'm ****ing sick of all of them! What do any of them do for the guys and galls in the middle. I'm widowed, with no kids, a poorly paid job and a mortgage. I few grands worth of savings that is going to have to do as a pension because of the banking crisis and I get **** all help out of this or any other government.
I want a change!
I'd hoped the banking crisis and the expenses scandal might have done something to shake up this bunch of half wits and we might have got some real political change, but it looks like all the Sun reading xenophobic sheep in this country are going to flip flop over to the other side, just because they hate Gordon.
So, lets have some ideas people. If your dad voted labour and your granddad voted labour and you're going to vote labour then I don't want to hear your opinion because you obviously can't think for yourself. The same applies if your grand father was a Tory MP in the olden days or a friend of Winston Churchill.
You might ask why I've left the Liberals out of this tirade? Well for a start, I've more chance of winning the Tour De France than we have of getting a Liberal PM at the next election.
So unless the people of this once great nation start acting like free thinking individuals, all we are going to do is propagate this flip flop politics of Labour to Conservative to Labour.
We have to start thinking about the mess the past 30 years of 'politics' has left us in. For FFFs Sake I think a coalition might even give us something better than the prospects we are now facing.
Who's up for a revolution??????????????
I'm comfortably well off and I detest poor people, especially the ****less and work-shy. So I'll be voting for Dave, no-brainer really.
I misread TIRADE as TRADE - thought this was an appeal for the hearts of middle England.
I detest poor people
why? not all poor people are scum.
I'll vote for whoever bribes me the most.
I'm comfortably well off and I detest poor people, especially the ****less and work-shy.
You are AdamG and I claim my £5.
Ernie can run the Home Office
I'll handle defence
We put BigDummy in charge of criminal justice
TJ to run healthcare
Stoner as Chancellor
Sure we can think of a few more...!
Zoofighter would have to get the transport gig on account of him being so out of touch with it that he'll fit in perfectly
why? not all poor people are scum.
I didn't say they were scum, just that I detest them.
While I am honoured to make the roster of CaptainFlasheart's Goat, I do not think the revolution is required. Basically because I don't really recognise the world in which the OP lives. 😀
You have no hope. Perhaps retraining as a hedge fund manager will result in you being rich enough not to care.
Voting wont make a difference.
I've more chance of winning the Tour De France than we have of getting a Liberal PM at the next election.
I think [i]thingy[/i] would make an excellent PM.
[i]Wassisface[/i] has such charisma. A completely unforgettable face.
Can I be culture minister please?
i vote murdoch.
I'd like a job too (my moat needs a service). Any suggestions?
I think we should hand the running of the country over to Tesco.
Surely they could get us into profit in a year or two?
My likely choices for MP at the next election (we currently have Alan "Six Jobs" Milburn:
Lib: A nice guy who once bought me a pint. He's a southerner, but he's lived here for years, brought his kids up here as a single dad after his wife died and has a successful small business in the town so I'll let him off with that. Rides a bike and is a member of Darlington Cycling Campaign.
Lab (no finalised yet, but likely to be): A woman only a couple of years older than me. Has kids the same age as mine and is the friend of a friend. Once referred to me as "the famous miketually". Rides a bike and is a member of Darlington Cycling Campaign.
Con: Capt Edward Thomas Legard, The Life Guards, second son of Sir Charles Legard, 15th Baronet. Lives miles away. Rarely seen in the town.
Hmmm.
You might ask why I've left the Liberals out of this tirade? Well for a start, I've more chance of winning the Tour De France than we have of getting a Liberal PM at the next election.
If you're only going to vote for a party who have the chance of having the next PM, your only real choice in Labour or Conservative.
So unless the people of this once great nation start acting like free thinking individuals, all we are going to do is propagate this flip flop politics of Labour to Conservative to Labour.
If you're only going to vote for a party who have the chance of having the next PM, your only real choice in Labour or Conservative.
😉
We've got Charlie Kennedy. Since he keeps all the local hostelries in business I don't suppose anyone else has a look in.
I'm .... a poorly paid job and a mortgage
Get a better job then.
What makes you think that any politician of any stripe is going to make your life better - you have to do that yourself.
So unless the people of this once great nation start acting like free thinking individuals, all we are going to do is propagate this flip flop politics of Labour to Conservative to Labour.We have to start thinking about the mess the past 30 years of 'politics' has left us in. For FFFs Sake I think a coalition might even give us something better than the prospects we are now facing.
Who's up for a revolution??????????????
I dunno, most of seem to do OK out of it
I personally couldn't give a toss which tosser is the next PM - it'll make little or no difference to me & mine, or anyone else I know
a change would be nice though wouldn't it, I'm with the OP on this and was thinking the recent economic situation may have changed things. I was wrong. I also want people to see beyond their family upbringings and vote because that's who they have thought about it rather than following, little chance of this. I realise my personal circumstances are more down to me (although interest on my supposed house deposit took a battering, the chances of me having a mortgage at the moment are very slim and being able to afford a house before they are all flooded or poisoned in a cloud of fog is also unlikely - these are not necessarily my doing, then again I should get a better job I suppose) but still, a change would be good, even just the option of change. Pity the lib dems did what they did to Charles Kennedy.
...not that the lib dems actually offer a real change. So, Revolution it is....
ernie_lynch - Member
I'm comfortably well off and I detest poor people, especially the ****less and work-shy.
You are AdamG and I claim my £5.
I think you are correct... (from memory he lived near Blackpool).
In another post...
Forking Our Souls - Member
North west... Lancashire
The majority of the posts so far, seem to support what I feared the most. That the average member of the British public is a non thinking Sun reader who doesn't really give a sh!t about anyone but themselves.
I really did think that they were the minority in this country.
How sad is that?
Politicians love people like you. You don't question, you just moan. You probably don't vote either!
Frustrated Lib voter mavisto?
maybe one day hey? - but then again, probably not 😆
miketually - MemberMy likely choices for MP at the next election (we currently have Alan "Six Jobs" Milburn:
Lib: A nice guy who once bought me a pint. He's a southerner, but he's lived here for years, brought his kids up here as a single dad after his wife died and has a successful small business in the town so I'll let him off with that. Rides a bike and is a member of Darlington Cycling Campaign.
Lab (no finalised yet, but likely to be): A woman only a couple of years older than me. Has kids the same age as mine and is the friend of a friend. Once referred to me as "the famous miketually". Rides a bike and is a member of Darlington Cycling Campaign.
Con: Capt Edward Thomas Legard, The Life Guards, second son of Sir Charles Legard, 15th Baronet. Lives miles away. Rarely seen in the town.
Not sure what your point is Mike. My best mate is a brilliant lad, goes cycling, enjoys a laugh and a beer, friends since school. But hate to have him running the country.
The boss at work - ex-army, father a Doctor etc. etc. - wouldn't invite him to a party but by god he's a leader and someone you'd respect and will get the job done.
The boss at work - ex-army, father a Doctor etc. etc. - wouldn't invite him to a party but by god he's a leader and someone you'd respect and will get the job done.
I'd prefer someone with empathy above any sort of leadership qualities
I've got exactly the same choice as Mike & I won't be choosing 3
Frustrated Lib voter mavisto?
Actually no. Totally disillusioned voter in reality.
I really want something new and not the usual verbal diarrhoea that is being spouted at the moment.
I'm truly amazed that the general public believe a word the politicians say. All they do is tell people what they want to hear so they will vote for them. It has nothing to do with solving the problems of the country. I hate to say it, but the last person that actually stood by what they believed and not what would get them another 5 years in a very cushy job was Margaret Thatcher and I can never forgive her for destroying the manufacturing base of the country. It's no wonder it's taking the UK longer to get out of the recession, we don't make anything that we can sell abroad. Where is our GDP supposed to come from, the Banks?
I'm truly amazed that the general public believe a word the politicians say
They don't
Where is our GDP supposed to come from, the Banks
yep, that and "knowledge" by all accounts
personally i hope gordon brown wins it.
but it seems that hes damned if he does something and damned if he doesn't.
[i]The majority of the posts so far, seem to support what I feared the most.[/i]
You come on here with a daft caricature of British politics today that makes us wonder whether you're on crack. Then you have a bit of a whine about how your job's no good and you'd like some free "help". Then you accuse everyone else of being the problem because of some bizarre fantasy that we read The Sun. Then you suggest a revolution with no programme or ideas.
How cogent a level of analysis in response were you really expecting? 🙂
uplink - MemberI'm truly amazed that the general public believe a word the politicians say
They don't
Perhaps you are right, they believe what is written in the Sun.
Perhaps you are right, they believe what is written in the Sun.
I think the regulations about what newspapers can and can't say mean that The Sun will actually tell more truth that most politicians...
I love the way that anyone who has an oppinion in this thread is cast aside by Mavisto (a self confessed Tory boy) as "a non thinking Sun reader".
Great, and thats why I never have an never will vote for the Tories.
Much as I hate politics I'll be voting Labour for three reasons,
1) They aren't the tories
2) They dont have David "Call Me Dave" Cameron, does anyone realy want that wannabe Blair in charge? GB is the different kid of polican people winged we needed, yet now we have him the tories/libs refused to cooperate when he offered them cabinet positions, and we ridicule him because he's not a celebrity with perfect teath?
3) I actualy think he's the best man for the job.
3)
More bad news...
Tricky one. I'm a pretty much lifelong labour voter who recently had resolved to vote liberal next year as they're quite good round our way (I usually vote for them in the locals) and Gerald Kaufman is the labour candidate so it should be a no-brainer.
Trouble is I have this nagging, creeping, growing terror of what will happen if/when those self-interested c****s the tories get in. Especially since my two daughters are just starting school. What to do? I have no idea.
All I will say is that the stupid, short-sighted, reactionary idiots who seem to decide these things (ie. marginal voters) will probably get exactly the government they deserve.
People need to stop looking at the people and voting for "a good lad/girl" and instead actually read the policies.
Using miketually's example, if candidate 3 has better policies you should vote for him, not 1 or 2 because they so happen to ride bikes.
Oh and empathy can only get you so far, you need brains and leadership as well to do anything useful. The most successful people in business (and yes, running the country is in many ways like running a business, you have books to balance, debt to manage, people to keep happy) are not high on empathy, they are generally quite tough and can come across as a bit ruthless. This is because they have to make tough decisions that all people won’t agree with but do need to be made. A big job needs a strong person, Brown is not that man and I’m not sure Cameron is either.
It's a simple decision. We're in difficult financial times. In my lifetime, Tory reaction to this has always been, make the poor pay for recovery. If you have no problem with this, then Dave's your man.
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trailmonkey, no, the Tories reaction has always been were in trouble, every man for himself, lower the tax so you have more money to do that but don't expect as much help from us.
The Labour reaction is we're in this together, increase the tax and we will look after you but you might have less money in your pocket.
Take your pick, I would rather the former but i understand the attraction of the latter.
Can I vote for a military coup please?
Labour = sh1t
Tory = well I'm not rich so thats me ****ed
Lib dems = too close to socialism and we know that doesn't work
Green = away with the fairies
BNP = racist thugs
So the military couldn't really do much worse.
I detest poor people
I assume you are joking. Poorer people who actually work but have to accept low wages, are the salt of the earth and deserve respect for having the pride to stay out of crime and the benefits system.
BTW I share your disillusionment with Lab and Con. I'm going to vote for a Liberal assuming the candidate is not a monster. Vince Cable alone is worth 10 Lab/Con politicians.
Time to spoil a ballet paper methinks, won't make any difference (voting realistically won't either until something like proportional representation kicks in and that will be a long time coming as it's not in the interrests of Lab or Con) but at least I can say I made the effort to get to the polling station and make a choice (even if it is for none of the above).