[Closed] Who really killed JFK?

Mr. Rate: Would've been a bad job to take, though.

Nick Memphis: How come?

Mr. Rate: Whoever took that shot's probably dead now. That's how conspiracy works. Them boys on the grassy knoll, they were dead within three hours. Buried in the damn desert. Unmarked graves out past Terlingua.

Nick Memphis: And you know this for a fact?

Mr. Rate: Still got the shovel!

It was you and me.

Denied his innocence all along.

From memory

The Italian bolt action rifle Oswald allegedly used could not fire off the number of rounds that were fired in the time frame of the incident. Multiple sharpshooters have tried to re-enact the pattern of fire and it's impossible

The Zapruder film clearly shows bullet impacts from directions other than the book depository window

Forensic analysis of the wounds clearly showed that unless there was a magic bullet that defied the laws of physics, it was impossible to be only one shooter

That is an excellent summary of [i]JFK[/i] the film! Which to be honest is one of the reasons the JFK assassination became such a cultural phenomenon. Oliver Stone really did a brilliant job of blending fact with plausible fiction

But a lot of that was exaggerated or made up for the film

Oswald had plenty of time to get the three shots off. The film understates the time by a couple of seconds which is comfortable enough to get three shots in. Oswald was also a much better shot then made out in the film he certainly wasn't a "mediocre shot at best"

Th magic bullet theory only arises if the occupants in the car were directly in front of each other. If JFK was offset a little to the senator behind then the bullet can travel in a straight line.

The Zapruder film isn't really proof of anything you could easily just being seeing the exit wound rather than a shot from the front. It wasn't exactly shot in 1080p

And I don't believe Oswald ever did say he did it. Denied his innocence all along.

I'm not ruling out a wider conspiracy of who or what put Oswald up to it but as for who actually shot JFK I think I've made my mind up

Video, also responsible for killing the radio star

The Zapruder film clearly shows bullet impacts from directions other than the book depository

In order to **** with our heads, there's now counter-conspiracy theories that suggest the film was an elaborate hoax

The Zapruder film isn't really proof of anything you could easily just being seeing the exit wound rather than a shot from the front. It wasn't exactly shot in 1080p

Back, and to the left 8)

@ richmtb

I've seen that in any number of documentaries, so it's not just a theory from the film. Some have actually included real-time mock-ups of the scenario.

I doubt we'll ever know: the fact that we don't know may hint to possible CIA/government involvement, or they were just really clever assassins.

FWIW and I know its not a popular view, but the bloke standing at the window with a rifle who said he did it is a safe bet.

It was the KLF.

uh huh uh huh uh huh uh huh

matt greening nailed it .... It was Marg from the Knoll ...

Can someone explain to me what the difference is between Jivebunny and Jamba(fact)?

I don't really follow the corners of STW they lurk in too closely, cos they seem quite tiresome places to be. But, from a vague distance, they seem to be one and the same entity. Even have usernames beginning with J.

It does make me think.

There's a 'documentary' on YouTube called everything is a rich man's trick. It's four and a half hours long. Watch the last hour of it. It's fascinating.

Was a cyborg / boy band / nazi conspiracy....

Suspects include Lee Majors, Brian Harvey and Oswald Mosely.

It was the bike industry, in a practice run for the much more difficult killing of 26 inch wheels

zippykona - Member
Zombie maggot bureaucrats.

For once someone speaks the truth! Uuhhhmm!

Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed him.

Why he did it? Who knows, but he was a strange lad.

Strange people do strange things. Someone once tried to shoot the Queen because he wanted to be infamous, he wrote about how he wanted to be known as the Man who killed the Queen, he was a trained shooter, Army Cadet I believe.

He ran into problems when he couldn’t get a gun. so he bought a starter pistol that only fired blanks - be he figured that was 'close enough', walked up to her as she rode down the Mall on horseback and fired 6 times at her before being tackled.

He decided to do something that could have very easily resulted in his death, would almost certainly result in serious consequences and was doomed to fail. Strange people do strange things.

P-Jay - Member

Lee Harvey Oswald shot and killed him.

Why he did it? Who knows, but he was a strange lad.

Mental health issue if he did it on his own without being ordered.

Stone's film played a little fast and loose with facts, but the book it is based on, the DAs account of the only trial connected to the assassination, is an interesting read.

Not much clearer as to whether it was Oswald, acting alone, or not. If he wasn't alone, then there is the fascinating possibility that someone high up in the chain who was involved might still be alive.

There was a (somewhat bad taste) video game out some years backed which simulated him taking his shots (v2 fairly accurately apparently).

He would've had to have been a phenomenal marksman to make those shots. Was he? Who knows.

as a hand-wringing tree-hugging lefty I can only see one plausible option
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ninfan - Member

It's also possible that he was just pretty darned lucky to have ended up hitting the target.

Or that his actual target was Winoa P Schulberg, teacher (retired), who he bore a terrible grievance against after she once gave him a D in Home Economics. The oven was heating unevenly making it completely unrealistic to get an even bake, he should have been given at least a B for getting something edible at all. It was so unfair!

But it was a challenging shot and tragically he didn't find his mark. Well, not tragically for Ms Schulberg, but for JFK, for Oswald, and indeed all of Class 3B who suffered under her and who would have to wait until 1993 for their revenge.

nice stones reference there edlong. Wooh, wooh!

It was Bill Hicks

As a bit of an aside, if you do have a passing interest in the JFK assassination, then pick up a copy of American Tabloid by James Ellroy, totally fictional but a superb book.

My son has been studying this at school in history. My conclusion is that if the US government had not wanted a load of conspiracy theories to spring up they should have done things a lot differently. In particular, allow a full autopsy, don't order the partial autopsy report to be destroyed, don't take the main suspect out of the front door of court live on TV and unprotected allowing him to be killed, and finally don't break standing orders and allow the President to travel in an open top car in the first place.

I understand* that one of the reasons for not disclosing the full autopsy was the issue of Kennedy's complex illness, which up to that point had been hidden.

* May very well be another conspiracy theory, who knows

I've no idea who killed JFK . . . but is it significant that we've suddenly started talking about assassinating US presidents?

Esme - Member
I've no idea who killed JFK . . . but is it significant that we've suddenly started talking about assassinating US presidents?

Ya, stoking the fire that sort thing me guess. 🙄

nickc - Member

I understand* that one of the reasons for not disclosing the full autopsy was the issue of Kennedy's complex illness, which up to that point had been hidden.

Were they concealing that he'd had a stroke?

JFK? Pfft, bloody conpiracy loon, weren't he?

Unless of course...

They jailed Eric Lehnsherr for it. In a special prison cell under the Pentagon.

Check his email server . . . .

Ming the Merciless - Member
They jailed Eric Lehnsherr for it. In a special prison cell under the Pentagon.

Eric was innocent

It was actually The Comedian that did it

Based on the fact that the more someone denys something, the more they actually did it, i'm now pretty sure that JFK was infact murdered by......

.... SHAGGY!

Apparently, it wasn't him. Yeah right...... 😆

Were they concealing that he'd had a stroke?

Back & to the left , back & to the left , back & to the left. But watch the Zapruder film with the thought that Jackie shoots him & all of a sudden that's what it looks like. Of course we all know it was the evil joooooz that dund it 🙂

your mum

I'm going to say Lee Harvey Oswald.

So we're down to a shortlist ofl three - but who actually did it? Lee, Harvey or Oswald?

The Italian bolt action rifle Oswald allegedly used could not fire off the number of rounds that were fired in the time frame of the incident.

So it was Lee, Harvey [i]and [/i] Oswald. Cunning.

John Dillinger's landlord.

Or Hagbard Celine. Never whistle while you're pissing.

E Howard Hunt said he had a hand in it , but I don't belive for a second it was Oswald.

He got shot in the back off the head by a secret service agent sitting in the car behind. He pulled a rifle out from where it was concealed to use in the event of protecting the president. Said agen heard shots took out the gun and accidently put his finger on the trigger as he was lifting it and shot JFK in the head.

Hang on - has anyone broken the news to saxonrider yet?

It was Earl Lee Swagger. They attempted to frame his son for something similar a few years later.

John Peel.

Hear me out.
He is actually there, on film, as a member of the press when LHO makes his 'patsy' announcement.
True fact.

Then, not 15 years later, Peel promotes a band called The Dead Kennedys.

'Patsy'? Obviously an anagram, hence the Binners/Peel connection, which suspiciously he has always denied.

and one of his favourite bands 'the wedding present' have a song entitled 'Kennedy' and it's about the ex-pres...

plot thickens...

It was Earl Lee Swagger. They attempted to frame his son for something similar a few years later.

Bin dun.