I bought a small tub last week. Two rides using it and I dont feel hungry like I normally would mid-ride. Normal?
Feel like I've dropped abit of weight too overall.
Anyone using this/tips?
No tips but I've been using whey protein isolate (chocolate mint from myprotein) for recovery after hard training sessions over two hours. Does seem to stop me eating everything in sight.
I've been using it after rides as an easy recovery drink (myprotein as well).
Also use it as meal replacement for breakfast and lunch a couple of times a week when I work from home with fruit for snacks and then a proper dinner.
Hora , what are you using it for? Recovery? Fuel? Meal replacement? I use it before and after gym training and after bike rides
One spoon/c330ml of goats milk before ride. Same after.
Might do the same at the gym too. Wouldnt replace meal (s).
Hora , what are you using it for? Recovery? Fuel? Meal replacement?
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Thats the colour of my new frame.
Binners - try it. It'll stop me and you looking like two Cumberland Sausages in clothes 😉
Anyone using this/tips?
Don't expect magic from it, it's just protein.
I think thats a look that rather suits us though. And I also love getting in off a night ride and consuming my own bodyweight in cheese on toast. It'd just feel wrong if I didn't 😀
It's good for recovery methinks .. Of course there are other ways to recover , but either way , better recovery means longer rides more often .
It can help build muscle if you do resistance training .
Can give you savage farts though. Pluses and minuses
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Myprotein the best place? I paid 9.50 for 1kg
you can mix it with pretty much anything. I make smoothies with carrots and fruit added. Do not go to mad with it though in one portion as it can be pretty strong stuff - in terms of protein amounts. I like the basic stuff.
Does that not become 2kg, when its bulked up though?
Myprotein the best place? I paid 9.50 for 1kg
That's pretty much going rate from internet sellers IME.
FWIW I've used discount supplements a lot of times.
Do not go to mad with it though in one portion as it can be pretty strong stuff
What? It's just protein.
Yes myprotein is still best. Get 5kg and it comes in a massive box with PROTEIN written on the side. Wonderful stuff
Most of the places I looked online recommended myprotein as the cheapest. I bought 2.5kg for about £35 delivered. Mixes well.
As per the earlier thread I tried some up to help me through a series of big rides without much chance to get proper food in between, worked well and all the competitive cyclist to know seem to use some kind of recovery drink.
You should have some carbs with it to help recovery though. The main benefit for me is stopping me eating everything else which is usually pies and biscuits and speedier recovery so none of that post ride sofa surfing.
If you want look like that lady up there /\ I think you'll need creatine too, I'm a bit pas that bit did try a pre ride boaster which gave me the emergency squits.
What? It's just protein.
Exactly, it's just protein, and like anything else if you have too much of it it ends up causing harm. That rule should be applied to everything and protein is no exception.
and like anything else if you have too much of it it ends up causing harm.
Twice a week is ok though? (Just for rides). I'm still eating a balanced diet with veg. So not a food substitute. I can imagine if you have too much protein and nothing else your liver and/or kidneys might not be happy
No of course not. But there is nothing miraculous about protein which means that you can eat limitless quantities of it without it ever causing you harm.
Apart from cheeseboards. It is not possible to eat too much cheeseboard.
But there is nothing miraculous about protein which means that you can eat limitless quantities of it without it ever causing you harm
Oh go on then. How does protein cause you harm?
For the sake of simplicity, can we assume, that our hypothetical average man who is consuming 'too much' protein doesn't have renal disease?
I thought you just wee-wee excess proteins.
I just ate some chicken....
Oh go on then. How does protein cause you harm?
Do your own homework.
Otherwise assume that protein is unique and unlike anything else you can't have too much of it.
And btw it wasn't "protein causes harm" it was too much protein may cause harm.
Oh go on then. How does protein cause you harm?
A google shows that even nhs's own website doesn't think protein is dangerous.
From some of the pro-weight sites etc etc. It seems you do need protein if you are doing weights/exercise to prevent your body eating muscle to feed the ramp up in protein required.
I think the bad part comes if you substitute good/balanced meals with 'shakes' (IMO)
Do your own homework
All right then.
The few studies done that have shown links between high protein and reduced kidney function, have exclusively correlated high [i]animal[/i] protein with reduced kidney function.
Not dairy protein, or plant protein.
That's just AFAIK. Quite happy to be proven wrong by some of your homework. Etc.
It is not possible to eat too much cheeseboard.
Quite so!
This dude obviously thought protein was harmful
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I hear good things about [url= http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/hemp-protein/10529338.html ]hemp protein[/url] for the lactose intolerant.
Quite happy to be proven wrong by some of your homework.
It isn't important enough to me to want to prove you wrong 🙂
I've had this conversation with my GP and it's generally accepted that everything in excess is potentially bad for you, whether it's, sugar, water, vitamins, carrots, whatever. Sometimes in ways that are known and sometimes in ways which have yet to be fully understood. But if you reject this approach then fine - it's your prerogative.
EDIT : I use whey protein shakes after exercise myself. And last week I bought a box of Promax protein bars in Costco to take on long rides as they seemed good value. So yeah, I use whey protein as a supplement.
I've had this conversation with my GP and it's generally accepted that everything in excess is potentially bad for you, whether it's, sugar, water, vitamins, carrots, whatever.
Well yes you can take the scenario to an extreme, but I think the better question is 'how much' is too much?
10% of your 'required' calories? 20%? 50%? 100%? 200%?
I hear good things about hemp protein
I hear it's good for the joints.
Sorry, it's the whey I tell 'em.
I have a protein shake most days. I'm trying to build muscle and find it hard to get enough in what i normally ewt without the shake. I have it mixed with water and either for breakfast or after exercise to stop me inhaling everything else in sight. My protein chocolate peanut butter flavour is amazing. It also helps with the sweet cravings, and at only 98 calories/20g protein it's a much better alternative than a sugary bottle of chocolate milk.
I've had this conversation with my GP
GP's are great but they aren't specialists in different fields...
This is a new one on me - excuse the nutritional ignorance. I've used Torq recovery powder and in the absence of that (ie more often) a bottle of Yazoo or other UHT milkshake after big rides.
I've got a bad habit of demolishing biscuits or crisps while preparing a meal (or waiting for someone else to) after a day of exercise or physical work. Have just been thinking about what I could use to stave off that hunger and was thinking about just piling into bread and butter. Is some whey protein mix a good substitute?
Whats wrong with a mountain of cheese on toast then?
I'm not sure of the exact nutritional value of Worcester Sauce, but I'm sure that helps too
simons_nicolai-uk - I had a bacon butty yesterday morning at 5am. Did my Peaks ride and ate a falafel wrap in the afternoon. Tea at 7pm. I just forgot to eat much.
Normally post ride its jump into the car, drive home and an hour after that the stuffing the face begins onwards (snacks/lunch etc).
The protein is good 😀
Whats wrong with a mountain of cheese on toast then?
Too much cheese on the toast is bad.
The balance has to be carefully struck so the cheese depth allows for successful cooking through to the lowest cheese level.
If it doesn't, you have raw cheese at the base of your creation, which is a texture disaster.
Too much time given to heat through the excess cheese, and it drips everywhere, resulting in wastage, unless you're forward thinking and have placed a layer of bacon at the bottom of the grill tray.
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A relatively high protein intake does seem to help if you have a full on training regime, I think that is fairly well accepted. Whey is handy. It can be handy when you are in kcal defecit.
But most people get a lot of protein, and need to look at how much hard effort they really do. Most people will can recover from a few mtb rides a week without the need for any special help. An extra hour of sleep will help more.
I never really noticed any difference when I was training around 20hrs a week, but I never had a low protein diet anyway. Maybe around 1.5g/kg?
An extra hour of sleep will help more.
completely agree with this
makes much bigger difference to my recovery and training than anything else
This ^
For me, sleep hydration & carbs make the difference with a heavy training load. I don't supplement protein, even on a vegan diet. After a big day, a recovery shake and then a normal meal is enough, but rest is the key.
The people sitting around me at work must wonder what on earth I'm viewing the web in my lunch break - first Jodie Marsh coated in Creosote and Arnie in his speedos.
Oh yes I'm sure that is about mountain bikes...
* best Eric Morecombe accent *
Shouldn't this read "Whe Hey Protein"
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