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I am personally not having another jab after seeing how the flu jab has completely wrecked my girlfriends brother life
That's terrible. If that's the reaction from a tiny dose of an inactive virus, I wonder what the actual flu might have done to him?
I'll be going into one shop today, but will wear a mask. I've had covid for 2 weeks now (not contagious anymore). Still feeling a bit rubbish.
So many people seem to have covid at the moment, but it's not mentioned in the news. Too many people think this is over.
Its not mentioned in the news because its now "just" another potentially fatal winter virus - vaccines and treatments have reduced the amount of really serious cases. I think i read somewhere that flu deaths exceeded Covid deaths last winter?
Still rubbish if you catch it, I would go out of my way to avoid to avoid spreading it, even vaccines won't fully protect any vulnerable person who I passed it to.
I had the flu and covid vaccines week before last but have managed to catch a stinker of a cold (thanks Mrs S). I'll be careful about who I'm around and personal hygiene. No need to pass even that onto someone else.
This week was the anniversary of my mother's death from covid.
Last weekend the choir in which Mrs Onewheel sings went to perform carols at the hospital - during the week about a third of them came down with covid - luckily she hadn't gone with them because of other commitments. It seems that the current variant is extremely contagious. Given that singing and going to hospital are two of the most dangerous things when it comes to covid transmission I'm not convinced it was a good idea to combine them.
I did the Deerstalker last Saturday with a group of mates; hanging around in the marquee afterwards one pal remarked that he'd done well considering he'd been feeling so gash. Eyebrows were raised. Gash? Exactly how?
Same pal messages on Wednesday with a pic of a +ve C19 test. Feeling ok, I carried on. Only to be struck down with it overnight on Thursday, +ve test for me on Friday.
It's Flu 2 now, isn't it? (Or Flu Too, perhaps). I'm mid 50s, decent nick, but even so I'm hingin' at the mo. Another endemic disease to add to the pile as we age. And I'm one of the lucky ones, fully vaxed etc
I consider that ^ to be a form of natural selection,
I find it hard to believe that they've adjusted for other factors contributing to mortality in those cohorts of hydroxychloroquine enjoyers. eg over-consumption of crayons and being kicked in the head by a horse while nicking its medicine.
Combination of lots of small studies with variable baselines is going to be a challenge for interpretation, so I’d be wary. However the original premise, that hydroxychloroquine could be beneficial at suitable doses was reasonable. Until one looked at the doses needed to get to the in vitro antiviral levels (which I did and published). This, like ivermectin, was never going to work ans doses would be toxic, and there have been cases of poisoning in the US.
I see private booster jabs are going to be available for £45. There doesn’t seem to have been much of a fanfare about this- shows how quickly covid has blended into the background.
45 quid is gouging though. If you have an elderly parent you may be able to get one free as a carer.
I seem to have gone all 2020 and had what I believe to be COVID lurgy the past 11 days, no testing, I didn't feel well so haven't been to work, same symptoms as when I did test positive for COVID back when it was at its peak (cough with sticky unshiftable phlegm, eyeball headaches, metallic taste, fatigue and brain fog (i got stuck on how to use our 20year old coffee machine that I use daily). Been beached on the sofa watching TV and can't even remember what I watched.
Seems worse now than it was then.
I'm 11 days in and still coughing a bit, fatigue sets in towards the end of the day or with the simple effort of walking, chest feels heavy.
It's not been fun.
There's a lot of it about. Laid low at the moment with what I assume is a heavy cold. First one in what feels like years and I'm really struggling. Flying to the Pyrenees next weekend so really hoping it's cleared by then.
I've run out of tests too but based on symptoms and previous experience I reckon that I might have contacted covid which kicked in on Thursday.
I am extraordinarily lucky in that covid has never up until now been worse than a mild cold. I suspect that it a combination of genetics, being fully vaxxed, and good karma.
It peaks the first day with a significant improvement the second and gone by the third or fourth. Having said that I do take ample amounts of First Defence at the very first signs and large amounts of echinacea and some zinc. I have no idea if they help but I have been doing that for years at the first signs of a cold and I can go years without a fully blown respiratory virus.
I have been left with a very slight tickly cough though and earlier this year I ended having to take antibiotics for bronchitis after a very mild cold/covid. Don't know if decades of heavy smoking is significant to that.
I genuinely feel really sorry for people who get totally knocked out and/or are left with lingering symptoms after covid. It must be a constant worry and there is practically nothing anyone can do to avoid getting covid - one way or another you are going to catch it.
I guess the best anyone can do it to get fully vaccinated and have First Defence always available to use at the first signs. And echinacea and zinc. Even if effectiveness is just down to placebo.
I reckon that I might have contacted covid which kicked in on Thursday.
You don't need to shell out on tests. We could tell by the change in your posting style that something was wrong. Luckily we have your whole-hearted endorsement of Sunak on record for the future. 🙂
Get well soon...
Well there is obviously a joke somewhere there ^^ but it is lost on me!
I have to admit that the general election thread did help me to do two things during peak symptoms on Thursday. Firstly it provided me with an entertaining alternative to my usual Thursday evening qiqong class. And secondly the interaction with binners distracted me from my symptoms. I remember thinking at the time "it's true what they say, laughter is the best medicine" 😀
Yesterday was my first post Covid bike ride - 6km exploring around Gargunnock. Good to be back and after over 3 months I had not forgotten how to do it, even had a good landing OTB. Unfortunately it got me rather badly with horrible complications but on the mend. Where did the muscles go?
Best wishes and hopes of a speedy recovery to those caught this time around.
It is back it seems....
I have a couple of our team at work (distributed around the UK), local relatives, and now our own house with it...gah!
The boffins had a jolly good go at stopping Covid, but it seems it may be time to acknowledge that this particular jab hasn't really been very effective at all...
My understanding was the Jab was never intended to stop it, was to lessen the severity which it has done by the looks of things as we haven't got the same number of people dieing from it.
We have had managed to avoid it till now, had it for the first time last week.
This particular jab was never intended to prevent transmission entirely, or wipe out the virus, which is impossible. It's currently there to reduce the severity of symptoms in those most vulnerable to the illness, preventing death or serious complications. At the height of the pandemic, it was given more widely to reduce transmission as much as possible (in variants with lower transmission rates) and, by mitigating disease severity, lower the number of people who required hospital care, at a time when there was almost overwhelming pressure on health systems.
Just to clarify - had managed to avoid catching Covid. Had the jabs when offered.
Certainly going round again, lots of people seem to either have it, confirmed by test, or something like it.
Dug out a test kit we have left last week but apparently I only had manflu.
but it seems it may be time to acknowledge that this particular jab hasn’t really been very effective at all…
Some vaccines do offer immunity (in most cases) such as smallpox or measles whereas others will offer something between full immunity and just lessening of the symptoms. In the latter case its often down to how much the virus evolves and when it does whether it can still be identified by the antibodies.
For example the flu vaccine is really multiple vaccines. Twice a year the scientists look at what strains are dominant in the winter of the northern/southern hemisphere and then prepare a vaccine covering what they think will be the top 5 or so strains for the other hemisphere. Hence why its efficiency varies wildly year to year depending on whether the predictions are right. Since if a different strain is dominant then the immune response may be far less effective.
Unfortunately covid 19 also falls into this type.
The boffins had a jolly good go at stopping Covid, but it seems it may be time to acknowledge that this particular jab hasn’t really been very effective at all…
'Yes, the chaps were beavering away in their boffin bunkers, but after the triumphal development of wheezes like the bouncing bomb, the lunar lander and James Dyson, not to mention the internet, they jolly well fell short when it came to creating a vaccine capable to providing 100% protection from a constantly mutating virus. We say bobbins to boffins, etc'
- The Daily STW
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I’m now old enough for another jab
Anyone can have one now privately. Costs about 80 quid
I'm still interested in whether being exposed but not testing positive boosts Immunity. Ie my other half had it a month or so ago. No isolation for me, never got it. I've had it twice already. I assume that my immune system fought it off, but at same time would have got a wee boost from exposure
I’m now old enough for another jab. I’ll be taking it, despite (as far as I know) never having had covid..
And now I've got Covid, which is annoying both because I've broken my otherwise clean record, and now I can't have the jab. Assuming I recover, does having had it confer as much protection as the jab?
Generally, no.
Thanks. However, I've just checked and the guidance has changed - used to say you couldn't have the jab if you've had COVID in the last 6 weeks - now it says that as long as you've recovered there's no need to wait.
In the end stages of recovering from something that tested positive for COVID, but felt way worse than last times. Came on with a vengeance last week. Will hopefully manage a nights sleep without waking up in a puddle of sweat several times a night.
And some unholy colours of fluids coming out of my nose.
getting PTSD seeing this thread pop up, nearly 40k posts.....dark times.
Im still pretending its all gone away, it clearly hasnt 🙁
UKHSA maintaining their data dashboard. No it hasn’t gone away. Deaths mentioning Covid are likely to be an accurate reflection of the underlying morbidity/mortality since such patients are likely to have tested positive. you can see the bump over the summer. Deep sequencing has been paused, but of course the virus will be evolving. As a former part-evokutionary biologist at heart, I’m of the opinion that vaccination pushes that evolution of the virus ?In fact any virus, but sars-cov-2 seems particularly pliant.
https://ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/topics/covid-19
on the positive side, I’m back training after post viral fatigue. Still no smell of course. Four and a half years, I guess it’s not coming back.
Got it for the first time about 4 weeks ago, bit rough and tested positive for 8 days.
Still no smell of course. Four and a half years, I guess it’s not coming back.
Sorry to hear that. Have you been doing regular olfactory training throughout that period?
Got it for the first time about 4 weeks ago,
Interesting in that if you are an old man (no offence!) it’s got my Dad eventually at nearly 80. It’s been a sod too, despite him being jabbed. And I know Amazon is evil blah blah but the ability to deliver strepsils and other making-life-easier supplies the same or next day to a person that lives 300 miles away from me, is incredible.
Covid On The Rise... says cheery Grauniad article:
I feel mildly doomed. We're having our bathroom converted into some sort of de luxe bathing salon ensemble and there is a constant stream of tradesmen wandering through the house coughing a lot, mostly I suspect because of the dust. I'm putting my faith in evasion tactics, a good excuse to get out on the bike, and First Defence. After my 18-month dice with long covid, I really, really don't want to go there again.
I still don't understand why we seem to reluctant to vaccinate people under the age of about 90. It seems like false economy given the impact of long covid and seriously unwell people both on the economy and the NHS.
It's also irksome that sourcing the vaccine privately via Boots for example, costs a whopping £100 or so.
Sorry to hear that. Have you been doing regular olfactory training throughout that period?
I sniff citrus daily. But not the other training. And of course the fish and scampi dog treats that had no effect even with the “nose in the bag” method. The same outcome was not true for the dog!
Personally I’d like a triple flu/covid/RSV vaccine annually and would pay for it. Combined flu/COVID vaccines are coming. Not this year.
Ah, that‘s a shame. Our youngest is booked in for flu&Covid together, didn’t realise it was still two separate jabs.
Youngest might get flumist sprayed up the nose. Combined mRNA flu and COVID vaccines have passed Phase 3 trials but are not yet approved. Protection agains influenza B has not been forthcoming in the combined vaccine - Remember, beware the dreaded Pharma X provides "update" on Y press release...But Moderna may have cracked it with B/Victoria:
The immune responses from a single dose of mRNA-1083 were found to be non-inferior versus the co-administered, routinely recommended, licensed comparators. In both age cohorts, mRNA-1083 also elicited statistically significantly higher immune responses against three influenza virus strains (H1N1, H3N2, and B/Victoria) and against SARS-CoV-2.
Next year will likely see combined protection and possible Influenza B protection as well. I'll still be too young (just). Might be ready when I am!