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In other news, my smell has never came back, fatigue and muscle and chest pain has improved, and I am back training (in fact I have even finished in the bunch in a 50+ race).
That's great news TiRed, I hope it continues!
And I seem to now be intolerant to more than two units of alcohol, which is giving me acute sinusitis – likely the site of my COVID URTI damage.
Unaffected after 3 x Covid in 2022, after a minor throat infection moving to an ear infection in March, I've had a lot of fatigue getting steadily better after being accused of whinging and pandering to my coach on here. As a result and going through the Dr's protocols I'm currently being testing for Epstien Barr antibodies. But here's the thing, I too have had a negative affect with alcohol and beer specifically. I seem to get overly drunk on 2 pints, and wake up with a raging disproportionate hangover, and even faux hangovers after no drink at all including what I thought was a weirdly - for me - unseasonal hayfever. So much so that I'm two weeks from abstinence as I try to isolate my symptoms - the hangovers have gone. My Dr has hinted that if the EB is negative, Long Covid should be considered.
I did admittedly and perhaps stupidly drink wine whilst displaying Covid symptoms, and the Dr is wondering whether my immune system has gone a bit haywire with identifying a "threat" and perhaps thinks alcohol is even worse that it is - is this possible?
I see the scientists behind the mRNA vaccine for covid have got their deserved Nobel Prizes. I have a feeling that the whining on social media may be worse than Liverpool getting a goal ruled out by VAR.
Getting pished on 2 pints sounds like an inexpensive win to me!!
joking aside, ever since I had covid my blood sugar levels have risen massively. I’m near prediabetic levels of hba1c despite not changing my diet and still at same weight. Was 33, now 39. That’s a big swing in 18 months since covid, when for past 8 years it’s been around the 33 mark at my bi annual check up
I bought myself one of those freestyle Libre things to check what was going on, and my blood sugar rises after eating are pretty high, which may be contributing, although they do come down again as they should fairly quickly
glad to hear tired is back on the bike👍
Alcohol seems like it’s one likely trigger for my “post-Covid” fatigue. I’ve found 2 pints is enough to wipe me out for a couple of days or more, though without apparent excessive inebriation during the drinking.
Our doctor's surgery sent out a recent text saying there's an increase in their patients- of respiratory infections, cough, fever and sore throat (also in our area lots of new covidcases). They asked patients with any symptoms to wear a mask. Really I feel everyone should wear one, but I've just been in the waiting room and out of about 20 people, only myself and one other lady were. Coughing and all sorts going on around. It's considerate to wear masks for the sake of others imo, in places where there are elderly, infirm or sick people, even if you don't have to.
I was in hospital over night a week and a half ago. On a mixed acute medicine ward with heart issues. No masks or extra precautions going on there or in the rest of the hospital for patients or staff. Not unusual for hand sanitizer squeezy boxes on walls to be empty now too.
They asked patients with any symptoms to wear a mask. Really I feel everyone should wear one, but I’ve just been in the waiting room and out of about 20 people, only myself and one other lady were. Coughing and all sorts going on around. It’s considerate to wear masks for the sake of others imo, in places where there are elderly, infirm or sick people, even if you don’t have to.
Mrs_oab was in the hospital yesterday in a room full of day patients being treated. She said despite the 'please wear a mask' signs everywhere, only she and the nurses had them on. This is a room full of folk having treatment for immunocompromised patients...
A bit like Matt's Mrs' experience, I headed out for my flu & covid boosters in a vacc centre in Forfar on Monday. Only one other person in the packed waiting area was wearing a mask, although the profile for most current attendees has to include 'vulnerable' at this stage. The staff were mixed; some were, some weren't.
I'm fortunate (and very happy) to be getting the covid vaccine as I'm still doing front line healthcare worker shifts regularly. At 59, I wouldn't qualify otherwise.
Great news you’re out riding again TiRed, been a long road for you that one!
Proper training now - velodrome Monday, club ride x2 and a week in Majorca coming up. The dog is missing his very long walks! And Guinness Zero has been a revelation. My recovery drink of choice. Still get chest and muscle pains and of course nil by nose (and some nasty taste sensations at the moment). I don't (quite) qualify for a vaccine but would happily have one if offered. I do still test my infections for COVID. Still at 4x, but expecting another over the winter.
The Nobel was very welcome. Moving mRNA from oncology to infectious diseases seems obvious now, but it was never a given. It has moved vaccine technology into a different place and most likely means that responses to new and changing pathogens can be more agile (ban me! - see previous thread 😉 ). Approval of new vaccine variants will become standardised as it is for influenza. Development of therapeutic anti-virals has also not stopped but is not making the news to the same extent.
A few masks on the tube and Elizabeth Line. I don't but largely because I haven't one with me. I should really given I sat next to someone who coughed sniffed all the way into town on Monday 🙁
Nobel, NOBEL? TiRed - have I missed something?
Was awarded to two scientists (not me!) who spent years developing methods to make mRNA stable and administrable as a possible therapeutic or vaccine. This was despite little interest or funding. It's a great story about perseverance
BBC.CO.UK and features a teddy bear!
A local farmer has a Nobel prize, he is out standing in his field though
Patrick Grant has been on Desert Island Discs today (judge on Sewing Bee) and his anger at the incompetence/venality of those nominally in charge is a masterpiece of restraint. He lost his father due to the virus in March 2020 before we locked down.
We will make the Tories pay for their greed and incompetence.
I’m confused also. I have my seasonal flu jab - which I had to ask for this time - next week. Mrs K has had hers and was offered a Covid jab at the same time, despite the fact you cannot book a Covid jab here.
Mrs K refused the jab on the basis she doesn’t want it complicating her thyroid issues (?) but I don’t know whether to have one or not this time. There’s just seems to be some mistrust in the Jab recently.
There’s just seems to be some mistrust in the Jab recently.
From the medical professionals? I've delayed my winter Flu Jag in order to qualify for the COVID one too (age 65 here in Scotland).
There’s just seems to be some mistrust in the Jab recently.
Doesn't seem to be any more than in previous vaccination rounds. Just the normal hot air.
Got my covid jab three weeks ago and flu jab today. I am feeling a slight urge to support moves towards a shadowy 'one world government' and the installation of extra 5G masts in my area, but apart from that, fine.
I think I had it again with my last trip away with work :/ got home and was sent a list of the new symptoms and pretty much had a full house. Was feeling better after a week but not 100% but now ive taken another dive to the point ive had to break out my inhaler.
The joys
No jibby jabs here. Maybe this year I'll
suffer from a "winter of severe illness and death." Lolz.
I wonder if any of us would notice you missing if that happened daveylad?
Sorry to have brought out the Trolls.
From the medical professionals?
I meant the public. I’ll be having mine, and I should have clarified my two sentences were separate - I’m doubtful becuase of my EBV diagnosis, but a few moments thought reveals how stupid that is. I’m sitting here with a raging Cold / mono flare up so a bit thick headed
Getting my borked immune system ready for jab number 8. Wore a mask on the plane last week going to Spain but panicked on the way back when I got on the plane back and realised I didn't have one in my bag. Mrs S passed Covid onto me at the beginning, before I was ill, but since then she has caught it twice more without me catching it. Lucky or some other reason?
No jibby jabs here. Maybe this year I’ll<br />suffer from a “winter of severe illness and death.” Lolz.<br /><br />
We can but hope
I meant the public.
Ah. I do think that there's a more relaxed attitude to the consequences of being infected. Hence folk not testing, not isolating, not caring. For the majority of folk this probably doesn't matter. However there's still the elderly, sick and the immuno-compromised to consider and we also know that a percentage of the young(er) and healthy will suffer from the effects for a long time. I'll continue to take minimal steps to avoid infection. I just wish the option of a further vaccination was available more widely.
Been back to the States for the first time in… er… 17 years. Adverts for booster shots (new multivarient versions) everywhere… supermarket, cafes, lampposts…
Mask wearing at airports about 1 in 30, if that. So about the same as on trains around here in north of England. We were masked up. Partly to minimise being ill with the prime trails of Sedona waiting for us, and partly due to my travelling companion’s other half having radiotherapy booked on our return. Don’t suspect that masks are effective when so few people are wearing them, but you do what you can, don’t you.
Just wondering if there is any delayed effects of the last vaccination jab. By delay I mean a week!
I had my booster vaccination jab (pfizer XXB)and my flu jab on 8th Oct and all was fine infact I went for a decent xc 3 hour ride afterwards. The following Saturday i started feeling rough with flu like symptoms and also
what feels like one of my RA (rheumatoid arthritis) flare ups. Tested 4 test for covid since and all negative. Haven’t felt properly ok since.
Although I don't qualify for either, my GP has invited me for a flu jab, so I'll be booking that next week. No Covid jab for me.
I think many folks are now accepting that we are now "living with covid" and it's just another winter bug - iirc flu killed more last winter than covid, presumably because of the vaccination programme.
How the reduced vaccination programme this year and the new variant plays out, we'll have to see.
Everyone I know who has had it again recently has been sensible and worked from home, not everyone is as fortunate.
Christ my recent and first bout of covid was an absolute ****ing nightmare, pure and simple. Bed ridden for two weeks, God knows how elderly or someone in poor health would survive it. It was utter misery, lost 8kg. Self employed so just a disaster. I'm frankly delighted to have dodged long covid.
I managed to get an unexpected Covid jab in England a couple of weeks ago, despite being 'only' 61. Mrs Lawman had hers booked at the local medical centre, as she's a bit older than me. She got talking to the nurse, who asked if we had any vulnerable relatives or friends, and since my brother is doing chemo at present, the nurse said to send me in. 5 mins later, job jobbed.
No ill effects for either of us. Likewise nothing from the flu jabs last week.
My wife was slightly reluctant about it, in the sense of couldn't really be arsed, but her daughter (mid 40s) has had her 1st Covid infection since then, and although we've avoided contact, its one less thing to fret about.
I got my flu shot the other day but I have held off on my Covid booster for now. I may be a bit daft in my thinking but I suffer from various autoimmune things and had a bad flair up about a year ago (after many years all ok) that took many months to get back under control. I had had 3 (or 4?) shots by then. Probably not connected but who knows, my GP/consultant doesn’t 🤷♂️. My mother ( who also suffers autoimmune things, guess who gave it to me!) had a really bad reaction after her second jab (GP raised a yellow card for her) and she never got another shot since. I am just not sure if there is a connection to the vaccine and my flair ups and no one seems to know either so rather than have another 6months+ like I had I am going to take my chances with Covid for now. I might change my mind and get the booster but for now I am holding off.
I believe that genetics might play a part kormoran.
I've had covid twice and both times it was milder than a cold, and very short. All my blood relatives have had mild forms of covid.
But I know plenty of people that have been completely knocked out by it. Including two friends with underlining health issues who have died from it.
And the people who are left crippled with long Covid truly have my sympathies. It really does need to be treated as a serious virus, however it might effect some individuals.
Last year I was fortunate to have flu and covid jabs on the same day. It was not a pleasant week following this. Lethargy and a bit of a fever for 5 days which wasn't nice.
Interestingly I had dodged it for so long I was beginning to think I might actually have had it so mildly it had gone unnoticed. In fact when Madame had it in our tiny flat, I was astonished not to get it too. When I finally tested positive there was no doubt, although when the line appeared I could hardly believe it. Anecdotally, my GP said that those who were recently getting it for the first time were appearing to fair badly.
Certainly with frail family members, I shan't be taking it lightly
Last year I was fortunate to have flu and covid jabs on the same day. It was not a pleasant week following this. Lethargy and a bit of a fever for 5 days which wasn’t nice.
My, pregnant, partner and I are both doing both jabs on the same day in a few days. That might be fun...
I had both the flu and covid jabs last week. One night of not much sleep (but I'd gone to a cheese tasting evening so it may have been the cheese sweats..)
I'm flu jabbed thanks to work paying but not had a covid vac for almost 23 months now. I was about 7 weeks too young to get one last year iirc so was kinda surprised this year that they didn't do a xx and older plus those that turned 50 in the last year. But no. Had it only once AFAIK, wife got it a send ring m time but I never tested positive despite several tests over a fortnight. I've tested 3 or 4 times over the last coupleof years since I got it they first time, when I've had coldy stuff but not shown positive.
My wife and I had both jabs together recently, the only issue was which side to lie on in bed that night as they did one each shoulder 🙂 We've had some slightly feverish/tired reactions in the past, nothing noticeable this time.
("Qualified" for them though being nominally carers for elderly parents, there wasn't any policing of this so anyone who wants to blag some jabs can easily do so.)
Anyone else paying attention to the covid inquiry? Amazing how all the expert witnesses got it all right all along, even though their recollections are contradicted by all the official documents, and even by the TV interviews they did at the time 🙂
highlight was messages describing Carl Haneghan as a 'dickhead' & his expression when that was read out
(he 100% is a dickhead)
it turns out that even though sunak swapped phones hes still using the same number so can retrieve the messages he said he couldnt?
AFAIK I've not had it, nor has my wife, or the 2 little Aphex's. This includes a 6 month tour of Europe we went on last year as soon as we were allowed out (and allowed to come back) from Australia.
If we have had it, it was so mild for all of use it went unnoticed. Annnnd I work for the health dept. Aaaaannnnnd I have a chronic and enduring health condition. (T1 diabetic).
Apparently, we're NO-VID's.
People still keen on getting covid jabs ongoing forever and ever?
Yes.
It's not just about yourself.
People still keen on getting covid jabs ongoing forever and ever?
As long as Covid is ongoing why not? The same way I’m perfectly happy to have a flu jab. If the benefits outweigh the side effects then it’s a no-brainer