Hey TiRed, good reading your thoughts. What software do you use for your computations and graphical representations?
My friends 9 year old has been sent home with a cough but sadly no tests to be had in Leicester where they live. Our friends with 13 yr olds at Rastrick High school are out due to a case in their year.
With tests this might work, without it seems not.
As for votes, don't forget the other big choice was Jezza and he wasn't very convincing either. He got my vote but inspite of rather than because of.
What software do you use for your computations and graphical representations?
SAS 9.4. I’ve used but am not a great fan of R. Python is fine for data, but for analytics I like SAS. Others like R because it’s free and flexible, but the language is far behind SAS for rapid simple plots and sums. Don’t get me started on speed of simulation!
Thanks gents for the concern shown.
Yes when my daughter first coughed sunday morning at breakfast, after waking up full of snot, wife and I looked at each other and both thought 'Is it?' but it was soon clear she didn't have a continuous cough. I agree I've always struggled with the definition but no, her cough is not severe, its not more than normal for her and a cough, its not continuous for over an hour, its not several bouts, it doesn't leave her breathless. I did how ever ensure i spoke to her teacher as I dropped her off this morning, I didn't want to hide her cough and made it clear I wa happy to collect her immediately if it worsened at all, and I'd checked her temperature before taking her in.
As for spreading a normal cough, or cold, that is a debate every parent has every time they have a littl'un with a minor ailment. I can't swear I made the right decision, but I will say we erred on the side of staying home to not spread colds while it was optional through nursery year. Now its not optional to attend we were keener she should go and based on how she has been all day it does seem a mild cough/cold and not more. We have been reminding her to 'catch her coughs' and have been really proud of how well she's doing it...not perfect...but does it more often than not.
If it turns out we were wrong and half the school comes down with coronavirus we'd feel awful, but we've acted with the best intentions and tried to follow school and nhs guidelines so I wouldn't feel I'd done wrong.
I'm also 99.9% sure she picked it up at school, as she's done little else to be in contact with others.
Hope she feels better soon.
Tory Scum.
Voted Conservative in the North? This is on you.
https://twitter.com/benkentish/status/1305498910249676801?s=21
This morning Priti Patel has been doing the radio studio rounds taking her turn at blustering through the testing mess… because we have more “testing capacity” now then we did have, it’s all okay, apparently. Meanwhile, at an NHS trust near you…
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54156889
NHS Providers, which represents hospital trusts in England, said staff are having to self-isolate rather than work because they cannot get tests for themselves or family members.
From kelivin's link:
The Department of Health and Social Care said testing capacity has been targeted at the hardest-hit areas following a rise in demand.
This had led to Wales' test quota being reduced dramatically despite us having local hotspots flaring up. One of my colleagues had to wait 8 days for a test which he had to travel to Bristol for. The result still isn't back but he's now out of the self-isolating period anyway so is back to work. A complete and utter shambles.
I’m also 99.9% sure she picked it up at school, as she’s done little else to be in contact with others.
Nah, not possible to pick up a coronvirus at school... they are safe as nursing homes (Boris and Hancock said so)
If it turns out we were wrong and half the school comes down with coronavirus we’d feel awful, but we’ve acted with the best intentions and tried to follow school and nhs guidelines so I wouldn’t feel I’d done wrong.
That's all any of us can aim for, and I'd like to think that your sensible and pragmatic approach would be the norm.
Give it a week, two weeks ago it was only the hoptspot areas dark red, last week it was some of Wales, big chuck on NE and around Leciester. i expect all the midlands and in to the South to be next week.
I follow my local area on there and has gone from 60 infections to 142 in 9 days
I wonder what the data would look like if there was any chance of getting a test in the worst affected areas?
Well, I have a useful animation of how this panned out in France… hold on…
About a million tests a week in France at present which is about as high as is possible without running out of reagents and manpower. The positive rate is about 5%.
People were let out to enjoy the Summer and return to some kind of economic normality. After a few weeks back to school and work things are bad but not catastrophic in that the hospitals and test/trace systems are just about coping. I think this week is critical, if the measures imposed in the red departements don't slow the spread we're back to uncontrolled spread. If they do keep daily cases at current levels then in 20 years time we'll be up to herd immunity. 🙁
I say this with my tongue in my cheek as the virus will mutate by then, for better or worse.
What should MPs do when their constituents tell them they can’t get a test? Well… tell them that tests are available, of course. Silly little people that we ordinary folk are…
https://twitter.com/bbcpolitics/status/1305840271872208899?s=21
Let's play a game - who of us in the north of England can get closest to the bull (our home address) by spamming the test booking system with Exeter and Great Yarmouth postcodes?*
*don't actually do this. TESTS ARE AVAILABLE IN RECORD NUMBERS IN ALL AREAS. EURASIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTASIA!
In terms of 'gaming the system', it's pretty obvious that the system is gaming us, by offering tests which we have zero chance of taking up. What kind of ****ed up individual designs that?
Clue:
Chap interviewed on PM last night, prof Allan mcnab, who is/was director of a 'mega lab' at Milton Keynes said the reason for the shortage of tests was the most closely guarded secret in the country. Interesting interview IMO. It starts at the 36 min mark if anyone's interested.
Correction - he helped set up the 'lighthouse lab' in mk.
Also makes a point about these labs not being under PHE, and in fact essentially are there to displace PHE in taking over diagnostic testing in to the private sector.
said the reason for the shortage of tests was the most closely guarded secret in the country.
Who are we selling them to?
Ha! How many times can you still them I wonder?
Tory Scum.
Voted Conservative in the North? This is on you.
Well this makes me more likely to buy a Brant bike 🙂
Voted Conservative in the North? This is on you.
What if you live in a Labour constituency, despite your Tory vote; or vice versa. Your action has had no impact, yet you get the blame...
I voted Labour, despite my strong dislike of Corbyn-as-leader*; purely because of Brexit. The ability to respond to a global pandemic, or really any global problem, including war and climate change did not affect my descision one bit.
*Corbyn the man, and Corbyn the local MP I have respect for. PM or leader of the opposition, not so much.
Perhaps in future people will look at the character of those they elect and ask the question: "Would he/she be any good in a crisis?"* It's simply that quite a few of current electorate don't know what a real crisis looks like, or have forgotten.
*Of course they won't, that's fantastical thinking.
Surprise, surprise - fat lazy westerners used to having it easy in not understanding the risk and gravity of a crisis shocker.
100% mask compliance in Asda yesterday afternoon too, that I could see. This cheers me up significantly as it was about 10% last week.
My sonS school is about 160 kids a year. They are in year bubbles. 1 positive test and loads off unable to get tests has seen the whole of Y7 sent home for 2 weeks.
100% mask compliance in Asda yesterday afternoon too, that I could see. This cheers me up significantly as it was about 10% last week.
Presumably the one in Pentwyn? The one down the Bay had to call in the police after one of their staff was pushed over for reminding people to wear one if they could while handing them out.
My sonS school is about 160 kids a year. They are in year bubbles.
All the time or just during lessons? I wouldn't be surprised if he is still able to mix with others before school, during breaks, and shortly after school.
When challenged on reports of people struggling to get swabbed, Mr Hancock said it would take a "matter of weeks" to resolve the problems.
He said No 10 would update its testing policy shortly to prioritise the most urgent cases.
So they are going to solve ye lack of tests by doing less testing...thats going to work really well!
Stop moaning its a free service (according to Matt Handjob) and dont worry he is going to prioritise cases?
The above sums up what a usless set of ****s this gov is. GP surgeries sat virtually idle with staff and resources available?
I found this guy's analysis quite interesting. Some points made I've not heard before.
All the time or just during lessons? I wouldn’t be surprised if he is still able to mix with others before school, during breaks, and shortly after school.
We are going to considerable efforts to keep different yeargroups separate. It involves staggered start times, no bells, masks in all indoor spaces except classrooms, policed "bubble-zones" for yeargroups at break and lunch, one-way systems and gallons of hand sanitiser.
The common cold is still passing through the entire school population though, seemingly immune to all the Covid precautions. Nobody has told it that respiratory infections are not welcome...
SAS 9.4. I’ve used but am not a great fan of R. Python is fine for data, but for analytics I like SAS. Others like R because it’s free and flexible, but the language is far behind SAS for rapid simple plots and sums. Don’t get me started on speed of simulation!
As an amateur, I was thinking of spending a couple of months getting up to speed on Python. Would that be wise do you think? Or is R more useful?
In celebrity news, Noel Gallagher refuses to wear a mask while brother Liam says it's gotta be done but doesn't like it. I always thought Liam was supposed to be the bigger **** of the two but there you go.
I found this guy’s analysis quite interesting. Some points made I’ve not heard before.
But for the sensible among us it’s just psuedo-science clap trap.
He doesn’t even get the flu season right ffs!
Propagating this sort of shit increases the death count; has someone got a graph for that?
I utterly despair at how bad we are doing going into autumn.
I've lost count at how many times I've heard, from our government, the WHO, the informed on here etc, just how crucial a functioning mass testing program and track and trace are to getting through the coming Winter. Yet it seems that we have been simply treading water since Spring. We lost precious days/weeks before lock down and it seems we have now lost whole months due to indecision and a seemingly total lack of competence.
I'm not so much angry anymore as desperately, desperately worried about the next few months and beyond.
How did we get it this wrong?
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I think where you might be going wrong poopscoop is imagining that this lot GAS. They do not. Don't think they've been wasting time either. They've been spending it very productively, figuring out how best to funnel money from the public purse to their backers and themselves, securing their ultimate objectives, and getting ready for the off. It's all going swimmingly.
Still. I'm sure it'll all turn out for the best.
Just last week Johnston was feigning conniptions at the very idea that testing wasn't working perfectly. How dare that terrible Keir Starmer say otherwise?
The common cold is still passing through the entire school population though, seemingly immune to all the Covid precautions. Nobody has told it that respiratory infections are not welcome…
I've never seen the likes of this september before, bad colds are rampant, is this because the kids have been kept apart for 5 months? The teachers are dropping like flies too.
Isn’t the common cold a coronavirus?
If a cold runs through A school doesn’t it mean that all the alleged “Covid secure” plans are complete rubbish?
That’s the short version.
Here’s the long version [full thread).
https://twitter.com/juniordrblog/status/1305861383607771137?s=21
Full disclosure: I’ve read the thread, but haven’t watched the video… He’s an engineer that makes his money in the “diet” market… which was enough for me to stay clear.
Well the papers aren't holding back on their front pages today. When the government have the Daily Mail, of all papers, launching a 'campaign' against you it's time to rethink!
