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Scotroutes – do you really believe his actions that he has admitted to are acceptable?
I know that even disregarding the accusations he denies that the behaviour he has admitted to would have led to my sacking and quite rightly so
I can’t believe Salmond is flogging this dead horse - he really is on course to become the Tartan Trump at this rate...
From the guardian
Nicola Sturgeon, who has been cleared of breaching the ministerial code over her dealings with Salmond, has made clear she supports Evans continuing as permanent secretary, and has no plans to request her resignation.
If that is so then that is foolish at best. Evens position is untenable and its highly foolish of Sturgeon to spend political capital on trying to save her.
Makes you think...
its basic politics
1) its not the event its the cover up that gets you
2) don't compound the error. ( or Hattersleys rule - " when in a hole stop digging" )
Sturgeon appears to have forgotten the second one. Loyalty is good but when someone effs up as Evans clearly has then they must take responsibility.
Are you accusing astute, intelligent Sturgeon of poor judgement?
I have said several times on here that she exhibited poor judgement over this - especially over meeting Salmond once the accusations came out.
Circling the wagons to protect Evans would be extremely poor judgement indeed. I do not like the "throw somone under a bus to protect yourself" that some folk do but this would not be that. Evans has made serious errors of judgement and has been rightly condemned for it. A siege mentality does not help at all. Its not "them and us" its what is truthful and the right course of action to take.
I also do not believe she did not know Salmond was a groper years before. Accusations go back 15 years
Splitting the vote? Proving once and for all that his ego is more important than progressing independence.
I really wish he'd bog off. Who was it on here who said he was finished?
I truly hope this party dies a death and that's the end of it and him.
Who would vote for him? The sector on the Venn diagram that overlaps "Supports Scottish Independence" and "Reads the Daily Mail" must be pretty small. His pal Putin must be egging him on...
Oh there's at least one on here I reckon 😉
I do hope he tempts George Galloway on board, may even get that Nigel bloke up for a bit of advice on splitting votes. If only he still had that Russian chat thing going, what a fantastic platform to work from.
Hes an effing idiot for that
all he will do is make it harder to get greens elected by splitting the pro independence list vote Second vote green!
What he does not realise is he is now a huge vote loser.
He needs to understand and accept what he has done is wrong but his ego will not let him
fud!
Edit - he is actually making a pro independence majority harder to get.
The thing about splitting the vote is that the obvious thing to do post-election is form an alliance and ask for a referendum.
Final confirmation of what I've believed for a long time. It's all about the Alex Salmond show. The guy's an egotistical attention seeker.
Narcissistic sleezeball.
Just read that BBC report. We deserve better journalism.
Whether or not Mr Salmond's new venture is successful, this is a direct challenge to the idea the SNP is the only party for independence.
Should they not be informing us south of the border that the Scottish Greens are "for independence"?!?
Plus assorted fringe parties.
What an utter bellend, I can't believe I actually used to like him.
I was planning to split my vote SNP / Green list. As the SNP would need eleventy million list votes to get 1 extra seat in the West of Scotland.
Pretty sure quite a few people were planning the same, Salmond has just massively muddy the waters.
Won't change how I plan to vote though.
richmtb - thats what most folk who understand the system were intending to do and I doubt he will split off many votes but maybe enough to cause damage - he could even let more tories in by splitting the list vote
I know a number of women who are rabid UDI now nationalists and used to be Salmond supporters. all have been scathing about him and none will vote for him
I was planning to split my vote SNP / Green list
Can you explain this briefly? Sounds like my voting intentions but I don't actually know how the system works.
Jimmy - the list vote is used as a top up. roughly from the list votes they work out what % of the seats overall the party should get, subtract the constituency seats then top up to get the the proportional number
so a party that gains lots of constituency seats needs a lot more list votes to get a list seat than a party that gets no constituency seats
the best way to get a pro independence majority is to vote list vote green.
Now Salmonds ego party is going to split the list vote 3 ways for pro independence rather than 2 ( snp and green) so that tories and labour - both of whom get most of their seats from list will be higher up the % on the list vote meaning over all less pro independence MSPs
From what I understand, in my constituency (Borders) it's a both votes for SNP - others are 1 SNP and 2 Green.
Does Salmond have any sort of credibility that will allow him to get any significant vote? Being based in England I have no sense of it.
These non-mainstream political projects rarely work unless they are offering something different - eg Ukip until Tories went full Brexit. Is Salmond offering anything beyond "not Sturgeon"? Is it just a play to get himself a seat and bigger the wider impact?
Does Salmond have any sort of credibility that will allow him to get any significant vote?
There is a core group of Salmond supporters who are absolutely wedded to him. This has a big overlap with the group of SNP supporters who think Sturgeon is too slow on independence or even ( weird fantasy) believe she does not actually want it.
Outside of that core group - no credibility at all. he was never liked but tolerated. Now the truth of him being a groper has come out then he has zero appeal outside that core group and zero appeal to women. Infact I believe he will actually be a vote loser overall.
thats my view on it
As above - I know several women who are in that group of SNP supporters who think Sturgeon too timid and who used to be Salmond fans. they have all changed their view because of what he has admitted doing and his refusal to apologise
In your seat you cast 2 votes one for the seat candidate and one for the regional party list.
Seat candidates are voted for by a simple FPTP majority. The SNP will win almost all of these.
Regional Party list votes are tallied but are then divided by the number of seats that have been won in the region.
So lets say you have a region with 10 seats and 10 list MSPs and 1 million voters for the sake of argument they vote seat / list the same
The vote splits
450k SNP
250k Con
200k Lab
100k Green
SNP win all 10 FTPT seats
When it gets to the list votes everyone votes get divided by the number of seats they already won +1
So the SNP now have 450k / 11 votes so are last in the list.
Cons get the first list seat, their vote then gets divided by 2, so labour get the next seat. Cons get the 4th seat because their list votes divided by 2 are still more than the Greens.
On it goes dividing by the number of seats won until all the seat are allocated.
In this scenario the SNP probably wouldn't pick up a list seat. So if you wanted an extra pro independence MSP you would have been better voting Green
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27Hondt_method
Wow Salmond has some brass neck. I hope he loses his deposit and gets zero seats. He actually makes Nigel Farage look good these days. What an ego.
Joanna Cherry tweeted this morning that she was was taking time off for health reasons, weeks after her fall out with and demotion by Nicola Sturgeon. Later the same day 'Eck pulls this stunt. Surely JC isn't going to jump ship for 'Eck?
Surely JC isn’t going to jump ship for ‘Eck?
You called it.
We sadly live in a time where personality is more important than policies. Just look at Trump, Boris, Farage etc.
He has the capability to be highly disruptive in the elections. He must have financial backers. What do they get out of this arrangement?
Well, Salmond did used to work on Russia Today, so maybe a few oligarchs or even Putin have shoved some cash his way? Given their interests in the Tory Party it would be in their interests to keep their "useful idiots" in government and allowing them to continue to funnel billions of laundered rubles through the City of London whilst bunging a few quid in the Tory coffers.
Will JC, pissed off tho she is with reason, really jump for Salmond? I will think less of her if she does.
No woman should have anything to do with him. NO thinking man either
He has the capability to be highly disruptive in the elections. He must have financial backers. What do they get out of this arrangement?
I don't know but the Russians and Chinese are awfully keen on Scottish independence. I imagine the drums of the 50¢ brigade are already beating the new rhythm out
Russia and China were happy with Brexit because it weakened Europe and Brian having the two of them split, further breakup of the UK would also be in their interest.And yet I can understand Scotland wanting independence, Westminster is full of ****s so there will be enough No voters will now choosing Yes when the next referendum happens.
does the ALBA party mean All Ladies Beware Alex?
I was just on a independence supporters page - part of the wider non SNP independence movement. 90+ % of poster were furious with him so from that the support is just not there
Auld Lecherous Baldy Alex ?
😁😁
All of a sudden there's ANOTHER independence party. Split the vote y'all.
Auld Lecherous Bloated Alex?
Allegedly Libidinous Bloated Alex
I really do not think Salmond is taking russian or chinese money - He is not corrupt.
His stint on Russian TV and this is all about his ego not corruption or money
I really do not think Salmond is taking russian or chinese money – He is not corrupt.
His stint on Russian TV and this is all about his ego not corruption or money
Doesn't stop him being 'played' by others though, his ego somewhat impairing his judgement?