The whole campaign is a form of bullying via social media, it's being portrayed as acceptable because of the cause and the minor forfeit. But it's still bullying.
It's really not at all now is it.
Keep getting these through, then getting - ' why have you not done it'
Well , if you got out of your little bubble youd see im living in west africa at this current time- where the idea of wasting water and ice is not on , the locals are short enough of clean drinking water as it is without me pouring it over my head for a laugh...
It's really not at all now is it.
You, you big meanie.
Plenty water under those stairs, get it done Mr Grumpy boots.
I genuinely didn't realise it's a charity thing! What's the charity?
Various charities for ALS (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis aka "Lou Gehrig's Disease").
In the UK we call it Motor Neuron Disease (aka "that thing that f******d up Stephen Hawking")
The main charity to benefit so far has been the American-based ALS Association which [url= http://www.alsa.org/news/media/press-releases/ice-bucket-challenge-082514.html ]has raised $79.7 Million so far![/url]
UK participants are encouraged to donate to the Motor Neuron Disease Association (MNDa) which has raised £1 million so far.
http://www.mndassociation.org/
https://www.justgiving.com/icebucket4mnd/
Or if you are feeling nationalistic MND Scotland:
http://www.mndscotland.org.uk/2014/08/ice-bucket-challenge/
The whole campaign is a form of bullying via social media
Absolutely!
Not quite as harrowing as the chilling sight of a sponsor form being passed round the office perhaps, but definitely up there with being pressured into wearing a red nose.
Perhaps some of the funds raised could be spent on counseling?
It's like being accosted by a charity chugger in the street except its on Facebook, don't have an issue with donating money or doing my bit for charity (which for me personally meant doing more than just tipping a bucket of water over my head) but it's the being nominated and effectively being told what to do by somebody else that I refuse to comply with.
My bucket, my money and I'll decide what I do with it thanks.
Blimey, I've only been away for a weekend and I've never heard of any of this!
It's true what big-n-daft says in a lot of cases. The ice bucket thing though was supposed to be a forfeit that you'd choose INSTEAD of donating money.
Nope. You chuck the iced water over your head as the shock and discomfort is a good mimic for some of symptoms on MND.
Off to get my ice now.
It's like being accosted by a charity chugger in the street except its on Facebook, don't have an issue with donating money or doing my bit for charity (which for me personally meant doing more than just tipping a bucket of water over my head) but it's the being nominated and effectively being told what to do by somebody else that I refuse to comply with.
My bucket, my money and I'll decide what I do with it thanks.
It's not compulsory, you do know that right?
My wife chose not to do it.
I'm not on Facebook, didn't mind get a wee bit wet and cold for 10mins or so and making a donation to MND. DOn't really feel bullied at all but do have a mental note of MND and what it can do and how some money can help.
It's not compulsory, you do know that right?
Yes. But you are immediately labelled a sad cantankerous miserable bastard but then I'm used to such accusations despite existing in a state of near nirvana like utopian calm.
Good grief it's already taken over my FB feed (yet another reason to leave...)
But you are immediately labelled a sad cantankerous miserable bastard
I'm a sad cantankerous miserable bastard, but I still took part.
I don't mind this sort of stuff but what I don't like is how businesses use it as a way of advertising - for example, a local hotel that I follow on Facebook did the challenge, but the guy did it whilst stood in [i]'one of our great new individual luxury steam rooms'.[/i]
You chuck the iced water over your head as the shock and discomfort is a good mimic for some of symptoms on MND.
I think that interpretation has been retconned onto the challenge.
Variations were being done for other charities before it got picked up by Pete Frates and went viral in support of ALS charities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Bucket_Challenge#Origin
^^ was not expecting that! 😯 funny but also not...
that video makes me a little bit sad, I think you all know why, but that's an entirely different debate 🙁
(I'm hoping it was dubbed)
One of My daughters school friends nominated her yesterday via her Mum's FB account, She's only five, I'm not sure I'm completely OK with the idea of Primary school kids doing it...
And I don't really like anything where you're sort of compelled by some charitable giving to participate like this, I've got a mate with Raynaud's who definitely won't be doing it....
She's a bit funny about getting wet still, and already has the possible beginnings of a cold which it won't help...
Needless to say at some point this afternoon my Missus is going to drench her in the back garden, lest the other Mum's brand her a spoilsport...
I might suggest she uses slightly warm water rather than Iced and has towels and stuff on standby...
Can't I just donate a fiver without upsetting my kids?
Can't I just donate a fiver without upsetting my kids?
Yes. Can you ask your daughter if she'd like to do it?
Take her to a swimming pool and do it there. Tell her to pretend the waters cold.
My new favourite
I think that interpretation has been retconned onto the challenge.
Doesn't seem very clear in that wiki link. What ever it is you can take part or not no one is bullying you into it.
(I'm hoping it was dubbed)
Sounds dubbed and sadly due to the swearing in it I've had to remove it.
I'm not sure I'm completely OK with the idea of Primary school kids doing it...
My mates two boys (a P2 and P3) announced they wanted to do it after watching their dad do it. They got the full deal: two of those big flexi buckets over both of them.
They nominated another mates son (also primary age) who got soaked alongside his dad using a JCB shovel like the video above. 😀
Most kids like getting wet and making a mess IME, I would ask your daughter what she wants to do, she might surprise you.
I'm sort of with MrSmith and big-n-daft with this. I'm probably not really putting it very well, but when there gets to be social pressure to do something like that then the point of doing it in the first place is lost a bit.
Bit like how anyone appearing on TV around Remembrance Day is now effectively obliged to wear a poppy, with the result that the fact they are wearing a poppy now says nothing about how they feel about it.
Not sure that makes much sense when I read it back, but there's still something about stuff like this that irks me.
OTOH, you can't argue with £££ of donations and raised awareness so maybe I'm just being a massive curmudgeon.
Sounds dubbed and sadly due to the swearing in it I've had to remove it.
Ah yes, sorry about that Drac. 😳
I understand what you're trying to say MrSalmon but in this case it's the social media that is allowing it to work, without the social media it just wouldn't work.
I do like the way we're told it isn't a form of bullying. Through the medium of a forum moderator repeatedly telling us it isn't bullying.
I agree with Big n Daft on this. Even at the risk of a virtual wedgie from the stw hall monitor.
This:
[img] 
[/img]
Especially when they appear silent on FB.
Drac - Moderator
[i]It's true what big-n-daft says in a lot of cases. The ice bucket thing though was supposed to be a forfeit that you'd choose INSTEAD of donating money.[/i]Nope. You chuck the iced water over your head as the shock and discomfort is a good mimic for some of symptoms on MND.
You're right I'm sure, but it just shows that there is misinformation around about this, including which charity started it all off. I apparently donated to the wrong one, but the below is what I read about the idea behind it. I did the challenge AND donated however.
[quote=[b]Wikipedia said[/b]]A common stipulation is that nominated people have 24 hours to comply or forfeit by way of a charitable financial donation.[4]
[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Bucket_Challenge ]Wikipedia[/url]
You're right I'm sure, but it just shows that there is misinformation around about this, including which charity started it all off. I apparently donated to the wrong one, but the below is what I read about the idea behind it. I did the challenge AND donated however.
If chose to do it and donate another charity then I can't see what the issue is, the most recent main choice is the ALS one but as already mentioned in the UK it's the MND one.
I agree with Big n Daft on this. Even at the risk of a virtual wedgie from the stw hall monitor.
See you at lunch.
🙁
Just deleted my FB account
Liked and shared.
Fine nominating adults but wives friends are nominating my kids 3 and 6
<mumsnet>
You're 3 and 6 year old kids are on Facebook?
</mumsnet>
Even at the risk of a virtual wedgie from the stw hall monitor.
I'm pretty sure you were a STW hall monitor once.
🙁
Just deleted my FB account (was the push i needed) due to this sh1t
...
Not impressed, right thing to do or overeaction?
If you're [i]really[/i] asking then yes, massive over reaction IMO.
In Gaza, they're doing the Rubble Bucket Challenge:
It'll be interesting to see the post challenge analysis of this.
Wonder if there'll be a lull in donations as folk have done their bit already? Curious as to whether some charities will also lose out as a result of not being 'in focus'
I'm pretty sure you were a STW hall monitor once.
You, sir, have me confused with a grown up. I've never had a position of responsibility here.
Wonder if there'll be a lull in donations as folk have done their bit already?
Maybe, but I guess you'd see the same thing after any successful charity fundraising.
If you want to get into the ethics then an earnest friend posted this on Facebook:
http://ethicsalarms.com/2014/08/23/ice-bucket-challenge-ethics/
Funny how folk are different ....
My kids... who just happen to be 3 and 6 ... did their challenge this morning
Bless 'em ... I didnt really need to pour water over they heads its was raining cat n dogs as we did it.
They got their own back by my nominating me... and then we all jumped in the bath together to warm up.
Hope they remember a silly wet morning we had once.
Ooh the language on that one 😀
FunkyDunc: that vid is the one I posted earlier that Drac pulled.
Probably not a good plan to repost it.
