I also like the way this forum works. Loads of forums I have been on in the past (the VW T4/5 one is particularly bad) have that many sub forums I just give up.
I pay my subs here purely because the members of this forum were there when I needed them.
I buy the mag- in WHSmiths partly because I like to scan it first even if it is abit more money as I dont like subscribing (I'm subscribed to Wallpaper and it goes from good to appalling so hesitate on subscribing to any mags again).
This is the best laid out forum I use by miles. I can forgive it it's little idiosyncrasies. My iPhone logs me out after every visit. So I just log back in as soon as I come back onto the forum. Easy. A bookmark for the login page helped this massively because it doesn't give the pop up ads a chance to pop up. Why my phone logs me out is beyond me but I'm positive it's not the sites fault.
Even as a muggle user and not a P it's still infinitely better than bike bloody radar.
If you need a comparison to help you understand: it would be like RyanAir Economy costing more than British Airways Business Class. Get it?
I totally get that.
What I don't get is why, when presented with such a choice, one would [i]choose [/i]RyanAir Economy.
I also don't get why they'd then sit there with their free ticket complaining that the coffee was cold and that other planes are a much better design.
I also don't get why they'd feel the need to have a gratuitous pop at another passenger in the middle of a rant about attitudes.
What I don't get is why, when presented with such a choice, one would choose RyanAir Economy.I also don't get why they'd then sit there with their free ticket complaining that the coffee was cold and that other planes are a much better design.
Well, to stretch the metaphor a bit, I'd guess it's because in this case BA doesn't fly to STW Airport, it flies to MyOtherForum International.
And the tickets are never free - you just pay by other means.
(I thought the pop at Hora was just a little joke)
One might see the pop at me as a joke however within the context of the whole post it doesn't look a joke.
On a wider note if someone wants to have a pop at me I might turn the flame back on them.
Talking of flights and airlines: how can you tell when a plane-load of STW forumites has landed?
...... because the whining continues long after the engines have stopped 😀
FYI - logged out AGAIN across ALL devices - two of which are windows based.... so its not an Apple issue.
Hora - relax, you have come off lightly!! 😉
The free ticket argument says a lot....from that point, you understand the premise for any debate.
Prepare for a Hora flaming!
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And the tickets are never free - you just pay by other means.
+1
Otherwise advertising wouldn't work, which I think is generally accepted.
Up to a point.
And once that point is reached, how much revenue get's lost after a solution is determined?
Five pages, fantastic. If everyone who has posted on this thread would introduce just two friends to STW so they can [s]see[/s]complain about the adverts the increased revenue would allow Mark to retire early 🙂
I thought I'd posted on this topic but seemingly not. I'm now thinking I've had a senior moment or I've had my first mod deleted post.
Mods - Apologies if the latter but at least I feel more 'stw' now 🙂
thought I'd posted on this topic but seemingly not. I'm now thinking I've had a senior moment or I've had my first mod deleted post.
It's certainly one of those. You should have received a special email and everything.
[i] If everyone who has posted on this thread would introduce just two friends[/i]
We're such inbreds, they're all on here already.
I want a special email 😥
I can send you one bear. Just need a deadline.
Cougar - Thanks. On checking I do indeed have a special email but it wasn't special enough to avoid going direct to my 'junk' mail (which it isn't obviously). Consider me 'reminded' and suitably chastised.
Hi everyone who has problems staying logged in,
I looked into this some time ago and I think I posted my conclusions here on this forum
Basically my understand is thus:
Many users were not selecting "Remember Me" when they log in. Therefore their login is only valid for one session.
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This is not a problem on a desktop browsers as the session persists until all browser windows are closed by the user.
However, iOS will do one and possibly two things that will cause a problem for session cookies. If the user leaves our site and for example goes back to Facebook (or their day job ;-), after a period of time (I think it's 10 minutes) iOS will suspend the Safari session.
The second thing that (I think) happens if the user comes close to their device's memory limit iOS will take steps to clear out stuff it considers unnecessary. I imagine this will include session cookies.
So, in short this is a "feature" or iOS and if you want to be remembered tick "Remember Me" when logging in.
Patrick - trust me - it doesn't matter if you tick that box or not - the site will still log you out.
It does it in Chrome, Safari and Firefox on the laptop.
It does it in Chrome and Safari on the iPhone and iPad.
It does it in Chrome and Safari on the Macbook.
On my android phone I've gone into settings and set 'not remember' on all passwords. Same with my PC with auto-fill. I also run malwarebytes so everything is regularly cleared.
Maybe look into those if you want your password saving?
Patrick
I have that box ticked and I still get logged out occasionally (nothing like the frequency many are reporting)
Android phone
Chrome on Win7
i don't mind being logged out occasionally...
It reminds me what life would be like if i didn't pay my £1.80 per month subscription and also acts as an aide memoire to check out those Bellroy wallets as i could do with a new one
*ducks for cover*
😛
hammyuk: That is very strange. I use all of those devices and browsers as do many of my colleagues and we get logged out after a month as designed in the cookie. How do you fare on other sites? Is there anything you are running on your devices that would get in the way of normal setting of login cookies?
scotroutes: About once a month? If so that's the correct behaviour.
By the way, if you want to clear out all your cookies from Singletrack so you can do a clean login. Click on this link:
http://singletrackworld.com/clearcookies.php
Obviously, you'll need to log in again after.
Twice this morning on the Mac Patrick.
There is now timescale to it in any way - it just "happens".
Other forums have no issues. Although they all have either a "keep me logged in" or a "logged in for xx" option.
hammyuk: And this happens when you have kept your browser open?
[i]*lightbulb*[/i]
Are you using Private Browsing? That will delete cookies when you close the browser.
http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203036
Never close them on any device Patrick.
If it was on a certain timescale it'd be a simple "okey dokey" but its totally random when it happens.
Just for info.
Crome on tablet.
Crome on phone.
Get logged out by one or the other about once every 24/48 hours.
Incognito browsing enabled?
Cougar - Moderator
Incognito browsing enabled?
Nope - use a different browser completely for anything that "requires" that 😈
Is this you?
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I still say you need to look in your phone settings AND on the advance section of your browser.
Trying a different browser would tell you whether it's a browser issue or something further up the food chain.
why is the entire Singletrack staff being called in to sort out the technical ineptitudes of a handful of users that dunno how to use their own computers properly...?
and still getting called names about it
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why [s]is[/s] aren't the entire Singletrack staff [s]being called in to sort out[/s] more concernted that, despite the technical [s]ineptitudes of a handful[/s] expertise of most users [s]that dunno how to use their own computers properly...?[/s] the site still renders it's self unusable at times.[s]and still getting[/s] no wonder they get called names about it
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The issue for me is, you open up the main forum page, and easily less than 50% is actual content. The rest being flashy shouty crap.
Not sure if this is due to crappy work PC but funnily enough I dont notice it on my main pc running lots of browser extensions.
woah... jfletch - that's some clever stuff you did there..
I'm humbled by your artistry
yunki - Member
why is the entire Singletrack staff being called in to sort out the technical ineptitudes of a handful of users that dunno how to use their own computers properly...?and still getting called names about it
scratches head and walks away in bemusement
Yunki - its got **** all to do with what you class as "ineptitude of users".
A multitude of different browsers, different OS's and devices ALL having issues is a "little bit more" than user error......
the site still renders it's self unusable at times.
You're conflating two issues there.
The issues with the adverts are STW's concern and have been looked at (over the weekend, on their day off, whilst out at an event). Rogue adverts will get tracked down, but it's not a simple process, as Mark has explained at length.
The issue with people being logged out more than once a month or so is highly unlikely to be STW's concern, it's a client-side issue (otherwise we'd all be suffering). This is what the comedy stylings of Yunki was alluding to. Nonetheless, the admin staff and volunteer moderators are trying to help people get to the bottom of it because we're nice like that. You're welcome.
Also,
Please don't feed the troll.
You may be nice but helping people to circumvent the vagaries of stw-browser interaction I order that they can realise the benefit of their paid subscription may seem to be more enlightened self interest.
Can't imagine why a business might want to help its customers. So yes, I suppose it might not be entirely altruistic, you'd have to ask them.
Seems a pretty inefficient way of serving "self-interests" though, and I don't really see what logout issues have to do with subscriptions. If I were serving my self-interests I'd have told you all to frack off and fix it yourselves and then gone to the pub, rather than sitting here racking my brains trying to come up with things to try. But y'know.
A multitude of different browsers, different OS's and devices ALL having issues is a "little bit more" than user error......
None of my devices have this issue. Many other people don't have the issue on a multitude of devices. Seems to be down to a few people having issues with their devices. May I suggest out drive to STWHQ at you're own expense and then may have a look at the issue for you.
I have the same issue. Doesn't happen on other sites.
It doesn't really bother me too much, but does happen often.