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A friend contacted me late last night in a state of freaked-out-ness. She's staying at her dad's who has something of a hoarding problem. The cat had caught a mouse and left her a present. My initial reaction was "that's no mouse."

I've never played Guess Who: Rodent Edition but I'm going with "baby rat." Can anyone provide a more authoritative answer please?


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 12:41 pm
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Siberian Hamster, surely?


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 12:42 pm
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Yeah, that's a rat.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 12:45 pm
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Eeeez a RAT.
Was it in a kitchen?


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 12:46 pm
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Bolivian death hamster


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:00 pm
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Looks like a house mouse. Any chance you could include a scale in the piccy?


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:02 pm
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Take it to the bike park and leave it by a trail somewhere.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:04 pm
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I'm going with wood mouse (with zero authority and limited googling)


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:08 pm
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Looks like a field mouse to me.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:14 pm
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Having googled I'm now considerably less confident about my confident answer.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:16 pm
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Posted : 30/11/2023 1:21 pm
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I asked for scale. It's been disposed of. It was apparently "larger than a hamster."


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:27 pm
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Ask them to search for droppings to help with identification


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:37 pm
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It's Basil.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:38 pm
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A rat (can say with relative good authority as I have seen thousands of the little buggers, dead and alive.) It is the thickness of the tail where it joins the body that gives it away. No mice or other rodents have one like that, apart from the Siberian Hamster of course.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:44 pm
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Mouse.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:59 pm
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I think it's a mouse based on a 2 second google as the tail seems a bit hairy and not scaly, also the ears seem big.<br />I think it the tail just looks thick because whatever it is it's quite small, unless it's lying on a duvet and not a paper towel


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 1:59 pm
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Based on what our cat brings in, that's a mouse.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 2:04 pm
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I'm revising my answer based on Welshfarmer's undoubted greater experience. Unless the guy from rentokil rocks up to this thread. I think the larger feet may be a sign that it's a young rat on closer review/googling (its a slow day).


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 2:13 pm
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That’s no rat, it’s a mouse.

I recommend she stands on a chair until emergency services can attend.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 2:15 pm
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If it's bigger than a hamster, it's bigger than any mouse.

Rat.

Not that it really matters; they're just different versions of the same thing, an omnivorous rodent who it's better you don't have loose about yer hoose...


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 2:21 pm
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It is not a squirrel.

That is the end of my knowledge


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 2:23 pm
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Have they compared it to a meerkat?


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 2:40 pm
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At least you have the full body for identification. Our cats usually just leave some random innards, and occasionally the head. From that bit of Dexter/CSI evidence we have to do the guessing game of "vole, shrew, mouse, or rat?"


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 2:47 pm
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hamster


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 3:13 pm
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So according to that ^ guide, it's basically impossible to tell if it was a mouse or a young rat.

Did it leave grease marks?

Next time, try to catch it alive and keep it under observation for 24 hours. Count the droppings.

Anyway... my personal method is: mice are small and cute, rats are not either. Plus fat bald tail.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 3:25 pm
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Looks like a house mouse. Any chance you could include a scale in the piccy?

A#minor for preference.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 3:25 pm
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Field mouse. Absolutely zero doubt here.

There’ll be one round here soon enough the way my cat goes. I’ll snap a pic for you.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 3:30 pm
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Field mouse. Absolutely zero doubt here.

I asked for scale. It’s been disposed of. It was apparently “larger than a hamster.”

Biggest field mouse I ever did saw.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 3:50 pm
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Hairy tail - mouse.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 3:51 pm
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If she'd said it was about the size of her thumb, then it's a mouse, at "larger than a hamster" you're well into rat territory. 


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 4:21 pm
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Ìts not Dangermouse as no eye patch. So probably Penfold.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 4:30 pm
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I love the definitive rat vs. mouse pronouncements!

FWIW, I'd say rat due to tail thickness. I would assume rat tails start off a bit hairy and then they lose the hair.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 4:31 pm
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I'd go with baby rat, having caught about 15 in our garden over the past two months. All released by the canal, a good 5 miles away. Baby rats are pretty easy to catch.

The mother (known as patio rat) mysteriously disappeared after having the second brood.

I think we're fairly rat free at the moment, not seen any for a couple of weeks.


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 5:18 pm
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I'm going to say mouse, based only that it looks fairly cute. 

In my experience no rat looks cute 


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 5:20 pm
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Baby ones do!


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 5:23 pm
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It's an interesting one to ID because the photo is poor and I'm not used to IDing from the underside. I'm inclined to say field mouse. The snout is quite pointy, the ear looks large (although folded), the eye also looks big/bulging (although semi closed), the tail does not look that thick compared to the foot (and I think the camera is distorting things quite a bit), it doesn't look that big overall compared to the dots on the kitchen roll and the sandy/ginger colour is more mouse than rat.<br /><br /> I vote field mouse (different to house mouse).


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 5:27 pm
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Wincantons greater frilled jungle gerbil. The last of it’s kind. Murderer


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 5:34 pm
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Given the absolute certainty of conflicting answers above, I'm going to suggest it is either a Rouse or a Mat. 

(assuming of course we have discounted baby robin?)


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 5:52 pm
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is cute is maus


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 6:07 pm
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All released by the canal, a good 5 miles away. <br /><br />

I’m pretty sure this is illegal, same with grey squirrels. 


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 6:14 pm
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is either a Rouse

A rodent of unusual size? I don't think they exist.


 
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Posted : 30/11/2023 6:29 pm
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Oooo. Puts another perspective on it. Tis a pretty long tail to be fair


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 6:41 pm
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Have you still got it?<br /><br />Can you pick it up and wipe it on the walls to see if it leaves grease marks?


 
Posted : 30/11/2023 6:44 pm
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