Chaps chaps, can't we just leave the bloody cuts alone for one thread and ponder what developments and wonders mankind can rustle up in 5 years, or 50 years?
This thread was looking quite promising.
Classic Radio Times cover
Z-11, what a film! Still scares the bejesus out of me now - although the hospital scene is not unlike an average night in A+E, tbh.
For my own part, I await the coming Rapture.
what developments and wonders mankind can rustle up in 5 years
All Government policy to be decided via sticky polls on Mumsnet.
Sandra Bullock lookalike "companion robots".
Brompton 29ers.
can't we just leave the bloody cuts alone for one thread
Swear filter avoidance ?
Ernie, where are they going to find the money to tidy up Croydon from?
In 5 years time Croydon will be the new Barcelona. I read it in the Evening Standard.
I can't wait. At the moment the only thing the High Street has in common with Las Ramblas is english drunks puking and pissing in the street.
nah it will just be full of call centres where we will be providing tech support in urdu and mandarin to middle class asians who make fun of our accents
Too true. History shows nobody stays on top for ever, things go in circles, so it's the most likely outcome.
I think there will be great progress in medical treatment but the vast majority of it will be financially out of reach for the average man/woman. Ironic when you think that we (mr & mrs average) have paid for large parts of it.
understanding Agenda 21 will give you a clearer picture f whats just around the corner
At the moment the only thing the High Street has in common with Las Ramblas is english drunks puking and pissing in the street.
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5 years, hmmm. Country will be out of recession, well sort of. Real issue i see is that at the current rate of oil usage. IEA is saying no problem, that by 2015 there will be more oil than demand and the price will be at $114, or that is what they were saying last june. But there is also a fair amount of data to suggest we are at or about to hit peak oil and that prices are going to climb along way.
The impact, well transport is going to get very expensive. Which will knock on to food, employment etc.
I hope things are ok, but i do really wonder.
For the future, why should the US remain dominant, There was a time when the world was ruled by Greeks, then Italians, later the Spanish and Portguese, more recently the UK, for the future, I suspect China.
The dollar will fade from view other currencies will move into its place. but that will take a few more years than 5.
I doubt any great medical advances
! think the thing that will happen is a decent new computer interface. Keyboard and mouse is so shit,
Ipad / Ipod is getting there - and there are projected keyboards as well. Some sort of point and pull and poke interfacea long with decent speech regonition perhpas.
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Speed-dating? 😀
nah it will just be full of call centres where we will be providing tech support in urdu and mandarin to middle class asians who make fun of our accents
Haha.
[Upper Class English Accent]:"Good evening sir. My name is Vikram. How may I be of service today?"
Murdoch somehow in the House of Lords (yes I know, I know, but I am sure if a man of his errr, influence wants it badly enough it can be arranged....)
Also a whole load more people without landlines or 'home' broadband, and instead of phone, stereo, telly and computer they will have just an ipad/similar connected to a 'cloud' rather than having any data/music/dvd's stored/stuck at home.
I accept the need to criticise the current political regime, but how come so many of the current pessimists failed to notice that the Blair/Brown years did nothing to cure neighbourhoods like this:
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(Little Hulton)
and this:
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(an anonymous street in Salford)
For three years I lived in Salford because of work, and visited some of the most impoverished streets I have seen anywhere in the world (I did the same job in the Caribbean and Canada, with working time spent in Mexico and the Dominican Republic). Yet in all that time, Hazel Blears - cabinet member and MP for Salford - turned a blind eye to reality and carried on as if nothing was wrong.
How is that worse than what the condems will supposedly do?
For the future, why should the US remain dominant, There was a time when the world was ruled by Greeks, then Italians, later the Spanish and Portguese, more recently the UK, for the future, I suspect China.
I'd personally feel safer with the US being the dominant force.
Them there Yanks might be as mad as a bag of frogs, but I think a good percentage of the rest of the world are even more insane. The more stable lunatic in charge of the asylum for me ta.
i hope the ConDems have made an inroad into the debt brought about by 16 yrs of the Last Governments investments into buying votes,
TJ will have drawn an excellent dividend from his BP and Exxonmobil shares if he gets in there now 😉
I hope but seroiusly doubt racial tension will not have grown in the UK, had a disturbing chat with Libyan prior to coming home from Triploi this week and his wish for Islam and the UK were not what i expected from someone who holds a British passport.
(an anonymous street in Salford)
Which looks all boarded up and ready for redevelopment.
If it didn't happen, I would primarily blame the bankers for that.
If it isn't [i]going to[/i] happen now, then I would blame the Tories 60% cut in social housing budget for that.
Labour at not blameless. But some are more to blame than others.
saxonrider - Nice point and well made
It's happening already -can no one else see the flying car in the Salford photo?
IGMC
im serious about the call centre thing
with science and research and the universities taking the financial battering they are and the restrictions on foreign students/ workers one of the few things we lead the world in will have evapourated
pfizers decision to close their world leading facility in kent will devastate the area and add a kick in the nuts to uk science
pfizer obviously see the writing on the wall and are off to countries that are investing in reserach, ie the rest of the G8!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-12344506
and strs anti islam posting would be hilarious if it hadnt annoyed me so much, i know i shouldnt bite it will just encourage him etc
and strs anti islam posting would be hilarious if it hadnt annoyed me so much, i know i shouldnt bite it will just encourage him etc
Why's that kimbers? Do you not see issues such as that as a problem, or do you want to bury your head in the sand like the rest of this country?
It wasn't an anti-islam post, it wasn't a post chastising anyone's skin colour, or place of birth.
It was a post relating to a worrying issue that will become more and more prevalent and if you think it wont, then you are deluded.
TandemJeremy - Member
Increased poverty, increased unemployment, decreased standard of living for everyone but the rich, increased waiting times for the NHS, increased homelessness, destroyed public services.
Politics isn't driven by ideology any more, its about who can manage the economy best. The only way to do that is to get elected, ConDems have done that. Does anybody think they will pursue policies that will result in TJ's predicted outcome and prevent themselves being elected again?
because 30 people and 5 placards isnt the great threat to the country the sun/mail/express/telegraph etc etc would have you believe
There'll be more violence in the streets, more political nonsense, more millionairs and even more paupers. On-One will release a steel singlespeed bike.
At current rate of population growth, polarisation of wealth, etc
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http://www.postcardsfromthefuture.co.uk/
Thanks for some good news ernie_lynch.
At bloody last. A cleaned up Croydon we can tolerate.
It wont go away and will only get worse kimbers.
These 'extremists' f'kin hate us, hate our freedom, yet want their own and want to take ours.
Islam is not a bad religion, but bad people choose to use it as an anti-British tool for hatred and destruction. Islam will continue to grow in this country and with it, so will the factions. One day we'll wake up and wonder what the **** happened.
What are your views on the introduction of the allowance of Sharia courts/law in this country? Shouldn't it be UK law, or nothing? Why on earth can people be allowed to bring their own course of justice to this country?
Or are you going to tell me they don't exist, or because they are few they dont matter?
Yeah, I can't stand all thse extremists, covering their faces and stuff.
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cbrsyd - Member
Politics isn't driven by ideology any more, its about who can manage the economy best. The only way to do that is to get elected, ConDems have done that. Does anybody think they will pursue policies that will result in TJ's predicted outcome and prevent themselves being elected again?
Actually its all about who can convince the electorate that they can manage the economy best. A con trick the tories have done well despite their appalling record of mismanagement. its clear the Conservatives are driven by an ideological hatred of public ownership - what other reason for the sell off of forests? Waht other #reason to break up the NHS and to privatise it - 'cos make no mistake thats what the policy is designed to do
Yep, they've got me scared Elfin - covering their faces and stuff (saying that, they are probably a right bunch of w***ers, but what are they protesting against?).
Unless you support what is depicted in my earlier post, then what argument do you actually have?
Did you see that EDL leader knob on Paxo was it last night? Could hardly string a coherent sentence together. Confused little bunch, aren't they?
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Do you not see issues such as that as a problem, or do you want to bury your head in the sand like the rest of this country?
Like the rest of this country ? .......so its just you then ?
Personally I don't see a problem - why would my head be buried in the sand ?
This is my local mosque :
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I like. Not only is it quite a pretty building, but often park my car next to it if I go to the Mayday hospital opposite, I feel it will be safer next to a mosque which is attended by decent law-abiding people - and also I feel that one of the mosque users might intervene if they someone breaks into it. I'm not sure if that's totally logical, but I guess I tend to see Muslims in a fairly positive light. Maybe I should fear
them ?
And btw, a couple of years ago I mentioned to a local Muslim shopkeeper that I would very much like to look inside. He took me there the next Friday Prayers and I was shown around and talked to the imams - I had made it clear that I wasn't interested in becoming muslin, just wanted to learn a bit about the culture and religion. I spent over an hour in there and it was truly fascinating.
Are you really that much of a bigot str? Did some brown chap steal your sweets when you were a kid?
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Sharia law in the UK. Right.
Why on earth can people be allowed to bring their own course of justice to this country?
they can't. End of
FFS, I'd quite happily park my car next to a mosque - what's your point?
It's like the 3 wise monkeys on here.
There's no point making a point on here, when no-one will see your point in their excitement to call you a bigot.
Sharia law in the UK.
That's the one where they chop off your hand for stealing a car ?
Yeah alright, I'll have some of that.
Whats your point STR?
FFS, I'd quite happily park my car next to a mosque - what's your point?
Well I was trying to work out [i]your[/i] point ?
Presumably you don't like mosques ?
Or do you ?
What's your Problem ?
I don't have one.
But apparently you do ?
My point is, Islamic extremists are a deep concern for the future of my offspring in this country, nothing else.
Just for the record, I think that idiot Terry Jones is almost as much of a threat for the hatred he incites and I dont condone that sort of behaviour either, but nontheless, the physical threat is a little less intimidating.
Really, are some things in this world not actually happening to the point you can't see it, or is it just a bit dark up your own backside? TeeJ?
ernie, stop being a tool.
When did I say I didn't like mosques?
Please, quote me.
Not making blind assumptions there, are we?
F'kin hypocrite.
I don't find Islam threatening or scary. I know extremist islam is a miniscule threat. Less so than the EDL to the British way of life
I don't buy into racist propaganda disseminated by bigots.
Ah, now I understand......the Islamic extremist terrorist groups are taking over the country. Why didn't you say that in the first place ffs ?
So........what do you think we should do about it ?
.....apart from reading the Daily Mail.
Conservatives are driven by an ideological hatred of public ownership
TJ you are missing the point.
It the same way New Labour ditched traditional labour idealogies like privatisation and redistribution of wealth in order to get elected the Cons have ditched their "ideological hatred of public ownership".
Some right wingers still believe that but the party as a whole will not let such an ideology get in the way of them being re-elected in 5 years time.
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR - Member
What are your views on the introduction of the allowance of Sharia courts/law in this country? Shouldn't it be UK law, or nothing? Why on earth can people be allowed to bring their own course of justice to this country?Or are you going to tell me they don't exist, or because they are few they dont matter?
Church/ecclesiastical courts already exist in the UK and have done for hundreds of years. They do not supersede UK law - neither do Sharia courts. Think of them as a club committee which is interpreting and applying the club constitution. At the end of the day, if you don't agree, you can always leave the club.
Oh - and can we stop using the word "ideology" as if it's a bad thing? ALL politicians and political decisions are driven by ideology and they always have been.
cbrsyd
Why the selloff of the forests then? Why the fragmentation of the NHS which at its core is designed to get private firms in?
I understand your point, I think you are wrong. I believe the whole focus of their policy is driven by a idealogical hatred of public ownership.
Rather a long way from the origin of the thread tho
can we stop using the word "ideology" as if it's a bad thing?
+1
Although I don't agree that all politicians are driven by ideology.......Tony Blair being an excellent example.