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closest club to birthplace for me. So I support/follow the Hornets.
Someone has to. 🙁
Or what about the person whose sister inlaw works for a teams major sponsor and gets free tickets to every game thereby reducing the clubs income?
Good point.
(Assuming, of course, the [i]major[/i] sponsor gives absolutely no momey to the club. Apart from that, a solid argument)
IMO, Fan = supporter.
According to some on here, though, you are only a 'supporter' if you have a season ticket, go to every game, live within half a mile of the ground, etc...
I doubt, if I lived on Merseyside, and blethered on about the game on here, that people would question my 'Loyalty', which I feel is the real issue, here. Regardless if I actually went to games, or not.
Getting tickets for Liverpool games is virtually impossible, unless you have a fair bit of money, or can get to the ground to buy from the box office. I've spent hours at a time, on the ticket hotline, only to fail in my quest. Each home game allocation (after season ticket holders, box office sales, etc) is only a few thousand. They will get tens, if not hundreds of thousands of calls for those tickets. I jolly well have not been lucky so far this season. 🙁
Smee makes a very good point, as does bigeyedbeans.
If it was really that important to you then you would have been there.
Sadly, I don't have the money to buy a ticket off an agency, which would have been the only way to get one for this game. They go for hundreds.
If I could afford to, I'd go at any available opportunity. I can't, so I don't.
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julianwilson - Memberclosest club to birthplace for me. So I support/follow the Hornets.
Someone has to. [:(]
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One Franny Jeffers!! Come on you blue and white wizards
Gary_M getting a season ticket at Anfield isn't as easy as getting one at Goodison (they gave those away free with mobile contracts a couple of seasons ago) I have been on the waiting list since the 1997 and am still nothing like getting a season ticket. Liverpool aren't local to me either - 450 mile round trip to go to each game.
I have been to something like 300-350 games in the last 25 years, but haven't paid for a ticket for the last 5 years. Until my sister inlaw started her current job I couldn't get tickets for love nor money, despite spending a couple of hours on the phone on the first day that tickets went on sale for every match.
You have me confused now, please enlighten me am i a fan or am i a supporter?
SC-XC - the club has one less ticket to sell as the sponsor doesn't pay for extra tickets, but gets as many as they want.
They will get tens, if not hundreds of thousands of calls for tickets.
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One Franny Jeffers!! Come on you blue and white wizards
we was robbed!
closest club to birthplace for me. So I support/follow the Hornets.Someone has to.
Haha! When I went to uni, there was this guy big watford fan anyway my uni was in wycombe so not to far and he had a season ticket, in the summer after they got promoted we went to the stadium you could walk in round the back, he was so happy talking about henry, ronaldo, gerrard running along the wing. bit of weathered stadium.
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At what? That's a fact. It's Liverpool FC we're talking about, not Accrington Stanley (Oo are they?). Anfield's capacity is just over 45000. Games like Liverpool V Manure, Bitters or Arse, for example, will attract stupid demand for tickets. They could probbly sell several times the amount. Virtually every home game is a complete sell out. same at Manure, Bitters, Arse, Spuds, Cheatski, etc.
Yer Middlesborough V Stokes may see a few empty seats, mind.
Rudeboy - All League games are sold out. Have been for about the last 10 years.
SC-XC - the club has one less ticket to sell as the sponsor doesn't pay for extra tickets, but gets as many as they want.
I would imagine they don't get as many as they want, it would be agreed as part of the sponsorship deal. Otherwise they could simply ask for all 45,000
Imagine away.
Well to me the word 'support' means to provide a foundation for something, help strengthen or psychologically help - how you can do that from 200 miles away is beyond me.
thank you
Chelsea don't always sell their allocation for every match. No chance of that at OT or the Anfield.
YI; LFC pull in what, a couple of million quid a game, from gates. After tax, police/ambulance costs, etc, and players/staff wages, there's not an awful lot left, to pay for new players, etc. So, big clubs like Liverpool and Manure raise revenue through sponsorship, fan membership and merchandising, as well as TV rights etc. So, The contribution towards running a club comes largely from sources other than ticket sales. Anyone who pays for owt like a shirt or Sky TV or whatever, is 'supporting' the club in some way, however small their individual their personal contribution may be. I feel I am 'supporting' my chosen club, in my own little way.
What's the word for the type-written equivalent of white noise?
Anyway, back to the subject, apart from buying a shirt every couple of years (assuming for a minute that you do), how do you 'support' Liverpool?
how do you 'support' Liverpool?
We've done that bit, and moved on.
Isn't a "supporter" somebody who 'supports' the club of which they follow? In my own personal definition of 'support', this means buys tickets and goes to the games. Anything else including being given the tickets for free and turning up at the game makes you a 'fan'.
If it makes any difference, I was born in Manchester, now live in Cheshire, have a season ticket for Man City, go to every home game and a few aways (I miss Sheff Weds and Sheff Utd aways the most), now regard myself as a Man City supporter and a football fan. I'm also looking forward to seeing the highlights of the Utd v Liverpool game and would have been if the result had been the other way round. I'm sure it was a great game to watch.
Oh, and Rudeboy is a rather small annoyance 🙂
"At least I can construct a proper sentence..." but you're repeatedly unable to type it.
Whoever RB is, his 'Pool won't win a thing this season. Man Utd for the EPL, probably he other Cup, CL - unlikely but not impossible. BTW has anybody heard the Setanta guy claiming Ferguson won't be upset a bit after the game as it doesn't really matter? I laughed so much [img]
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i'm sure when i get to work on monday there will be several liverpool supporters/ fans i didn't know of before 🙁
IMO, Fan = supporter.
According to some on here, though, you are only a 'supporter' if you have a season ticket, go to every game, live within half a mile of the ground, etc...
I doubt, if I lived on Merseyside, and blethered on about the game on here, that people would question my 'Loyalty', which I feel is the real issue, here. Regardless if I actually went to games, or not.
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It's not just your loyalty. It's your credability. I'm guessing you are of the age that when you were 'picking' (although I wasn't aware football fans/supporters 'picked' a club!!!) a club to be a fan of, that Liverpool were on top. ie winning titles.[/b]
Getting tickets for Liverpool games is virtually impossible, unless you have a fair bit of money, or can get to the ground to buy from the box office. I've spent hours at a time, on the ticket hotline, only to fail in my quest. Each home game allocation (after season ticket holders, box office sales, etc) is only a few thousand. They will get tens, if not hundreds of thousands of calls for those tickets. I jolly well have not been lucky so far this season. [:(]
[b]I call bullshit on this one. You can get tickets for Manyoo ffs. If you were a suporter I'm sure you would have managed to get to [i]one[/i] of the games this season (home or away).[/b]
Smee makes a very good point, as does bigeyedbeans.
If it was really that important to you then you would have been there.
Sadly, I don't have the money to buy a ticket off an agency, which would have been the only way to get one for this game. They go for hundreds.
If I could afford to, I'd go at any available opportunity. I can't, so I don't.
[b]Or you don't really care. You just wanted to crow on a forum.[/b]
We've done that bit, and moved on.
No we haven't. You mentioned watching games on Sky, do you subscribe to Sky Sports?
'Support' means, by definition, to help or assist, usually physically or financially. You don't do this, you're an armchair supporter (or more likely you go to a pub and nurse a pint for a couple of hours).
For the record, I'm not a seaon ticket holder but I go to half a dozen or so home games every year as well as with the home fans at a few local matches like Wigan, Bolton and Blackburn. I also take clients at least once a year for a meal in the Executive Club.
(I also take clients 'behind enemy lines' to Old Trafford so though I'm technically a supporter, I'm certainly no fan.)
Rudeboy..
Chill out, I dont think anyone here is challenging your right to support who you want but Ill say one thing - your very sensitive on the subject!
ps FYI I suppport Chelsea they are my local team - I can see the ground from my window. There you go - that should give you something to chew on 😉 😈
Prawn sandwich anyone?
Prawn sandwich anyone?
Yes please! I love prawns, me!
We've done that bit, and moved on.
No we haven't.
Yes we have. I've said we have, so we have. The matter is closed. Don't like that? Then go and peel some potatoes for yer tea, or something. People are trotting out the same tired old rubbish they were at the start of this thread. And there's the same old same old 'Oh look, RudeBoy's said something, so I have to go and try and prove him wrong' crap. Trouble is, you can't ever prove me wrong, as I am always right. Have you lot learned nothing??? 😉
I'd be up for having an entertaining discussion with 'fans', 'supporters' or whoever would like to discuss the footie itself.
Arse looked pretty good. Pity they've had key players injured for so long, and a lack of experience in the team. They have some fantastic raw talent, and old Arsene certainly knows how to spot them! Shame to see Arse not in the hunt this season, though, to give it even more spice.
Will Villa have enough, to keep hold of fourth place? Or are they only there because Arse jolly well have not been on form? Will we see a battle between those two and Everton, possibly, for that CL place?
And then you've got Wet Spam, who've had one or two slight problems, let's say, but have actually done ok. They must be thinking about a possible UEFA Cup place.
And Relegation? West Brom are probbly down already; they just aren't up to coping with the PL. But Borough, Portsmouth, Newcastle and even Blackburn must be getting worried. Even Hull have slid down the table, since their early good form had them right up there at the top.
S'been a bloody good season so far, I think. Still a few twists and turns, mark my words. And some exciting players coming up.
I strongly believe an English club will win the CL. One will be in the final, for sure.
But which one....?
I'd be up for having an entertaining discussion with 'fans', 'supporters' or whoever would like to discuss the footie itself.
Well there are millions of footy forums to argue on instead. In some arguments you have valid points you just always seem to ruin them by ranting. I'm off to the pub.
Fair enough.
same at Manure, Bitters, Arse, Spuds, Cheatski, etc.
Real supporters do not have silly pet names for rivals!! Who the **** are "bitters"? Surely the most apt nickname for Liverpool whose fans are always bitter and looking to lay the blame at someone else's door!!
And Relegation? West Brom are probbly down already; they just aren't up to coping with the PL
We are just gearing up for the big push...
Real supporters do not have silly pet names for rivals!!
No, course they don't... 🙄
We are just gearing up for the big push...
What, yer manager, off a tall building? 😀
I do feel for the 'smaller' clubs. It's very difficult to survive in the PL, and relegation can be devastating for clubs, when they go down (loss of revenue, good players leaving, etc.)
Not Derby, though. They just gave up. At least WB are trying to make a fight of it. Derby were a disgrace.
Rudeboy - as if you'd know!! It would involve mingling with real supporters in big crowds!!
Anyway answer the question - who are "Bitters"?? And why is that not the official nickname of liverpool?
Google it.
with ralph on opinion on pointless names and who are the bitters?
EDIT: apparently Man City is the answer I am a Man U fan and did not know this so either I am not a proper fan or I have not descended to your levels of petty hatred you decide you always seems to be right.
Rudeboy - if "bitters" are man city then you are talking shite about ticketing. They always have loads of empty seats
RudeBoy I've always found your posts pretty childish, but this one has reached a new level. You really are very immature.
Nothing better than laughing at the glory hunting mancs crying into their pints 
My bud is 35 ffs and had tears in his eyes, oh dear.
You dont support a team because they win every week I said.
But why support a team that loses he said.
Nuff said I thought.
EPIC MANC FAIL.
[i]S'been a bloody good season so far, I think. Still a few twists and turns, mark my words. And some exciting players coming up.[/i]
Who cares? Football is just a matter of seeing which club is successful at a certain moment, deciding to "support" them, and then mouthing off when you spot on Final Score that they won a game, right?
LOL, 'kin classic! 😀
JFT39
FFS Rudeboy starts a post intended as a bit of harmless banter and its turned into a full scale character assasination. People need to chill some. (IMO)
[s]EPIC MANC FAIL[/s]
EPIC RUDEBOY FAIL
Yes we have. I've said we have, so we have. The matter is closed. Don't like that? Then go and peel some potatoes for yer tea, or something. People are trotting out the same tired old rubbish they were at the start of this thread. And there's the same old same old 'Oh look, RudeBoy's said something, so I have to go and try and prove him wrong' crap. Trouble is, you can't ever prove me wrong, as I am always right. Have you lot learned nothing???
Oh dear, I think we have someone with delusions of grandeur. An afternoon of glory-by-proxy and it's gone to his head. This is why 'supporters' don't like 'fans'.
Why start a thread and then say the matter's closed when people disagree with your views and values? Perhaps you need to start your own forum so you can delete posts that you disapprove of.
You've still not answered, do you even have a Sky Sports subscription?
Ear, Lanresa, what happened to you last weekend? Thought you were bringing yer bike round?
As for the reference to Heyssel; there was a documentary a couple of years ago, which shed a bit more light on that tragedy. And showed how Liverpool, and all English clubs, were punished, to deflect attention away from the authorities who allowed a match to go ahead, against all good advice, in a crumbling, unsafe stadium.
If that's an attempt to have a pop at Liverpool, that's in particularly poor taste, I have to say. And is an insult to the hard work done by people from both clubs, to try and mend relations between the sets of fans.
Only person mentioning Heyssel is you
RudeBoy - MemberFergie is a fantastic manager, end of. But he has had a LOT of money to spend;
[b]Berbaslob: £30.75m
Daffy Duck: £29m
Baby Rhino: £27m[/b]
Hargreaves: £18m
Carrick: £15mNot forgetting flops like Veron, £28m!!!
Van Nistleroy was £19m, Jaap Stam was what, £11m or something? And there have been quite a few other spensive signings; Anderson and Nani to name two recent ones.
Eric Cantona: £1.5m. Now that's got to be one of the best signings ever (Andy Gray went to Wolves from Aston Villa, for the same amount)!
Stupid, stupid Leeds...
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