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Signing off as Gunter, Joey then Marcel suggests you are trolling. I hope this is the case.
You wouldn't understand...
I hope you're 100% certain about that.. she could be lying about that too, or did you conduct a thorough inspection..?
You're absolutely right - I took her word on this, and recent events obviously call this into question. Don't fancy strip searching her though... 🙁
Fun Bobby
If she is a good tenant otherwise then I would probably let it go.
On another note I went to a zoo the other day and it was almost completely empty. All the had was one dog
It was a Shitzu
Tom Selleck
Bet no-one ever told her life was going to be this way - she's broke, her job's a joke, her love life's DOA.
We have a winner! 😀
To the OP please give her a chance she may well have been desperate. Just ask for a larger deposit and profrssional cleaning at the end of the let.
Contrary to popular belief, I do have the ability to empathise - I just choose not to. The biggest problem is the bare-faced lies and trying to take advantage of my good nature by getting me to agree to one tiny tea-cup dog and then over-running the place with the bloody things!
I'm afraid I can't just let this go. I think I'm going to get a quote for a full deep clean and make her pay for that up front, plus additional deposit to cover replacing carpets if necessary.
The Chick and The Duck
I'm sure I would understand if you explained clearly. You normally post things that are serious and/or vaguely amusing. I'm not smiling and hope you aren't serious. perhaps an explanation would raise a smile or convince me you're not being serious.
My wife was a post grad student last year, and now works for a uni, and is home 90% of the time. She says she wished she'd been able to have a dog then as it's the best opportunity she'll have to look after one.
My impression of this is that you're being a malicious bellcheese for the sake of it.
Richard
Google tells me they are Friends characters whatever Friends is.
They're the names of Friends characters Ed.
Naked guy
Google tells me they are Friends characters whatever Friends is.
Trying Googling 'Friends'.
The biggest problem is the bare-faced lies and trying to take advantage of my good nature
HAHAHAHAHAH
Nice one
I hope the dogs shit on your carpets and ruin the house- I could empathise I am just choosing not to 😛
Smelly cat
That sounds reasonable. Having allowed one dog already you're on a bit of a sticky wicket though...
Ed, quite a few threads on which Rachel (allthegear) posts descend into mild ribbing of her fondness for signing off with her signature.
In this case, I thought it might lighten the mood if I signed off with characters' names from Friends, and other posters have joined in.
It is a fairly dull, serious thread, and I was looking for genuine advice on what to do - there's a huge cross-section of people and opinions on here which are very helpful.
And I thought it rather nice that we could all join in with a bit of an "in joke", sorry if you got the wrong end of the stick and thought me flippant. 🙂
Emily
I have now Googled Friends. :-/
Now buy the box-set. It'll change your life.
Can't believe it took this long to get to Smelly Cat, though.
Can't believe it took this long to get to Smelly Cat, though.
And slipped in so beautifully! Chapeau! And I genuinely LOL'd at being called a bellcheese! 😀
Ursula Buffay
That sounds reasonable. Having allowed one dog already you're on a bit of a sticky wicket though...
Back on a [i]slightly[/i] serious note, it was an informal verbal agreement - the tenancy agreement is clearly worded, no pets and not to be used for keeping any animals, reptiles, fish or birds.
The Screamer
I had to pay a significantly larger deposit and have to have the place professionally cleaned when I move out because I have a pet. I have no problem with it and thought that it was fairly standard practise! I have every intention of getting back every last penny of that deposit though...
I only have a cat and it took me quite a while to find a place to rent that would tolerate me having her. I don't condone it at all but I can see why someone might lie about having 3 dogs as I suspect the odds of finding somewhere that allows them would be pretty slim.
Poor Emily 😥
I spent years renting then became a landlord. Perhaps that's why I have a "my property, their home" approach which means I sleep easy at night and generally manage to settle differences out of court.
Even when I had a tenant spending his money on sorting out family issues in the civil war in Ivory Coast rather than paying I just let it ride rather than going legal. He eventually left when EDF cut the power off.
I had to pay a significantly larger deposit and have to have the place professionally cleaned when I move out because I have a pet. I have no problem with it and thought that it was fairly standard practise!
How "significantly larger" are we talking Chvck?
You either take it on the chin or you make a big deal, either way you learn to put everything in writing next time.
Anyway, you are Mr Treeger and I claim my $5.
Document everything and get everything in writing then you put yourself in the best possible possible come the end of tenancy.
Deductions and the like come surely come at the time of moving out based on the condition of the property. If there have been breaches of contract by either side (assuming no pets is in the contract) then it makes it much easier for the Deposit Protection Scheme to allow X amount of the deposit to be used for cleaning/ replacement of items. Again, it is all about keeping accurate records, receipts, photos (need to be signed and dated by both parties) to back up your claims for deductions from the deposit.
You did register the deposit with a Deposit Portection Scheme and take a comprehensive inventory signed by the tenant at the start of tenancy didn't you.....?
Estelle
Cheers
Danny B
How "significantly larger" are we talking Chvck?
50% more, this is in Oxford too so to me it's a fairly significant sum!
She has tattoo's? Anchors and sailor tats?
Bernard x
You did register the deposit with a Deposit Portection Scheme and take a comprehensive inventory signed by the tenant at the start of tenancy didn't you.....?
Of course. All taken care of.
Charlton Heston
In that case document the dogs in some way as evidence of her breaching the contract and claim whatever puts you out of pocket at the end of the tenancy. Any worries beyond that?
it could actually work out quite well - assuming she's a reliable tenant the OP may land up with her staying for quite a long time because of the lack of places that take dogs - the minimal extra hassle associated with her having pets could result in not having to deal with any void periods for a few years.
[i]In that case document the dogs in some way[/i]
you could press them, like flowers?
Dale Winton.
Kill them all.
Edna Sharples.
Robdixon has a point.
Shabba Ranks
Go and inspect the property, then come and whinge about it on here if you still feel the need.
So she has 3 dogs, but what about their health.
My friends rent, they have a brain damaged cat and a healthy dog but the dog is uber well trained, though it's a smallish garden and it's burned out a bit. The cat is well trained too actually, but ...
... due to brain damage it wobbles as it walks, and falls over a lot. Means it uses it's claws quite a bit more to keep upright and they have to clean up quite a bit after it's been to the litter tray as it falls over in there frequently.
They both work full time so this often means it's when they get home after it's been a few hours.
I believe the landlord just knows it's a cat .. nothing else.
cheers
Fun Bobby
If it was me I would ask her to admit a portion of the rent will be needed to clean up/paint when she leaves AND then she can stay on the understanding that all but one of the dogs will be re-homed ASAP or the % increases. A good tenant is hard to find and this might be a good compromise.
Mind, having said this, my tenant left saying she'd only left a few empty boxes in the cellar, I removed 9 car loads to the local tip when I went in and am now disputing the cost of this - it included a fridge, a single bed in various parts, tons of boxes and waste paper and bottles of strange yellow liquid purporting to be homebrew... of and a bookshelf and packling crates.
nah... get shot of... serve her notice NOW! 😉
ClapClap-ClapClapBet no-one ever told her life was going to be this way - she's broke, her job's a joke, her love life's DOA.
Cheers,
BIG HEAD, BIG HEAD, BIG HEAD!
Get rid, there will be Shihtzu everywhere.
Cheers,
Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-bus-stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-Biscuitbarrel
Right, the plan.
Get quote for deep clean by contract cleaning company recommended by letting agent and to be agreed by tenant.
Tenant pays the full cost up front, no quibbles, over and above deposit, for house to be cleaned when she vacates.
Tenant has 28 days to rehouse the 2 extra dogs. If she doesn't, the rent will be increased by £40pcm.
I will be inspecting the property monthly and reserve the right to withdraw bla-de-blah-de-blah...
Does this sound reasonable given that she claims to have tried to rehouse 2 of the dogs (probably bull shih tzu) and the fact that she's lied through her teeth?
Al Murray.
The cleanup cost bit sounds OK, deposit is there as a backup in case the cleaning does not scrub the place up...
Not sure about the 28 days bit for re housing the dogs.
Edit, I let one once to a bloke who had dogs, I was just happy to get the rent having seen a neighbour get royaly turned over renting out twice in a row. I gave his deposit back & just binned the carpet & put new stuff in, was only a small place.
Tonto.
Not sure about the 28 days bit for re housing the dogs.
To be honest, I think I have every right to come down hard on her for lying and taking the piss... And it'll call her bluff if she thinks she can still lie to me.
Spartacus.
Sounds fair to me, it's the lieing bit that would have pissed me off to.....
and actually, I'm Spartacus, and so is my wife....
I would check that any adendum to the original tenancy agreement is both legal and enforceable.
Alf Tupper.
I'd get a quote for nuking from orbit, waiting 1000 years and rebuilding the house from scratch. Then ask for that as a deposit.
Hicks
I would check that any adendum to the original tenancy agreement is both legal and enforceable.
I will... When I spoke to her this morning she said that she was sorry for lying and realised she might have to move. I think she'll be quite receptive of a compromise agreement given that she knows she's already in breech of the tenancy agreement. I still think she's pissing down my back by saying that she's going to get rid of the 2 dogs, so putting a time limit on that and increasing the rent accordingly if she doesn't is pretty fair and covers me financially, as 3 dogs WILL cause additional wear and tear.
Flicker's Wife.
#Makes note never to have anything to do with OP and leaves thread#
There was an article on BBC about how hard it is to find somewhere to rent with pets...she's not going to want to get rid of her dogs so just come to some equitable arrangement where she pays for deep cleansing when she vacates.
1 dog or 3 dogs...the place will still smell of dogs.
Yours,
Princess Consuela Banana-Hammock