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need to replace my motor,don't do a lot of miles (under 8000),but need it to be used daily,need a big boot for work stuff and bikes, camping gear etc.
like the look of current a4's,bmw 3 touring maybe skoda?...
any experience based thoughts are very welcome
Subaru Legacy
Ford Mondeo
Ford Mondeo was our choice. Not a lot of boots as big, or as usable - flat and wide as well as simply big. Much less intrusion from the wheel arches than a lot of big estates.
If you truly want a big boot, the A4 and BMW3 aren't really what you're looking for. You'd want an A6 or a 5.
peteimpreza - MemberSubaru Legacy
I wouldn't have one for everyday use. Too thirsty, awkward to work on. Smaller petrol engines have no torque and need revved, bigger engines drink like a fish and still only deliver power high up the rev range, compounded by 4x4.
Lovely cars, nicer to drive than the average repmobile but maybe more a weekend thing. I suppose what you save in the purchase price vs a comparable german could be offset against running costs.
Mine would be ideal for you. 1999 Pug 306 estate with only 180000 miles on the clock. Full service history. Carries loads of crap and does it well. I'll be honest it's not worth 10k so I'll let you have it for 7k. Email in profile.
Passat?
did think of the mondeo,plenty around as well although they all seem to be tdci's
are the tdci engines o.k for short trips,not bothered on the whole economy thing just potential dpf issues(if any)
Skoda Superb.
Audi S4
I was going to say S4. Why not....treat yerself! 8)
Rockape63 - MemberI was going to say S4. Why not....treat yerself!
but need it to be used daily,[b]need a big boot[/b] for work stuff and bikes, camping gear etc.
Because silly wee boot. That's why.
Can't get a bike in the boot of an S4 without the seats folded, even with both wheels off.
Golf mk 7 estate is v good especially in DSG spec with the adaptive cruise control
well under 10k would get you perfectly adequate Octavia estate, 1.4TSI (so under the hurdle for diesel), 60 plate. That's what the 900S got replaced by last summer. Nothing fancy.
Sorry jimjam. Disagree totally. As the OP does <8,000miles I recommend the Legacy and Forester.
Epic cars. Avoid the diesel though (although your mileage doesn't require it anyway).
I drove my Foz to Germany and back at NY. My bike (sans wheels) fits in sideways in the boot.
hora - MemberSorry jimjam. Disagree totally. As the OP does <8,000miles I recommend the Legacy and Forester.
I wouldn't disagree that they are great cars. However, every Subaru I've driven takes an age to warm up, before which the gear box is sticky and the engine is lumpy. The boxer layout means a lot of fairly basic mechanical jobs are more complex than a standard layout, eg changing spark plugs or gaskets. And then there's the engine character. As I've said all the normally aspirated engines need thrashing to get going, including the 3.0 spec b. Which makes for a fun car when you want engage in some spirited driving, but doesn't make for a relaxing day to day driver. So for a Legacy with good useable torque you go turbo import (like mine) or diesel. The diesels are riddled with issues and the turbos are f***ing nuts 😈
Having said all that I would still absolutely love a [url= http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/subaru/legacy/subaru-legacy-gt-spec-b-facelift/3622773 ]twinscroll[/url]
Get one with automatic gear whatever you choose as manual gear is so yesterday.
😆
Well, fwiw, I asked the RAC guys that came out to fix my wife's car the same question - independently, both said 'no brainier, get a Skoda Octavia or Superb estate (they said there's a reason why lots of ambulance and police use them). We were going to get a used Golf until we chatted to the fella that runs a local VAG specialist independent service place. He said if he'd got the choice of a Golf/Passat or Octavia/superb, he'd get the Skoda, as under the bodywork, they're the same car. Oh, and apparently they're more reliable and have better dealers than VW,
I'd got my eye on a Scooby, but we ended up getting a 170bhp Octavia estate, and it's been brilliant - very pleased we got it 😀
[quote=bowglie ]under the bodywork, they're the same car. Oh, and apparently they're more reliable
I suspect that those statements aren't both true - unless the bodywork breaks down.
bowglie - MemberWell, fwiw, I asked the RAC guys that came out to fix my wife's car the same question - independently, both said 'no brainier, get a Skoda Octavia or Superb estate (they said there's a reason why lots of ambulance and police use them). We were going to get a used Golf until we chatted to the fella that runs a local VAG specialist independent service place.
They are similar but quite a bit less refined in fit and finish. That wouldn't bother me in the slightest but the road/wind noise would. A comparable VW or Audi is a nicer place to be. The fact that they are cheaper too probably contributes their popularity relative to other VAG cars.
He said if he'd got the choice of a Golf/Passat or Octavia/superb, he'd get the Skoda, as under the bodywork, they're the same car. Oh, and apparently they're more reliable and have better dealers than VW,
Under the bonnet they are the same car, but the Skoda is somehow more reliable?
Agree on the gearbox- reminds me of the MX5's. However the sound they make from the transmission etc etc. They way they pull mid curve. Roundabouts etc you feel like your being pulled round by an invisible chain. Turbo other cars feels like shoved. True description?
Seat Exeo estate. Previous gen Audi A4 for less pennies.
Spot the difference in the work car park;
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Neither are parked across two bays or on the grass verge.
Both Seat Exeos.
Nearly right...
Are they the same under the bodywork and more reliable?
Hora, yes agree. The only problem is that UK spec legacys never got the engines they needed ie the 2.5 turbo as found in the impreza and forester.
both Seats, if one was an Audi it'd have an Orange 5 on the roof.
Seat Exeo estate.
they're all diesel though 🙁
aracer - Member
Are they the same under the bodywork and more reliable?
Probably. When the intercooler pipe failed on my Ibiza, I was talking to the flat bed driver and he reckoned that out of the Ibiza, Polo & Fabia, they saw far fewer Fabias in for repair than the other two.
thomthumb - Member
Seat Exeo estate.
they're all diesel though
Didn't realise that!
Stumpy01 - have they paved over the car park at Peaslake then?
Shall I mention an AMG merc, as I always do? I mean; the op hasn't explicitly stated that he doesn't want a tyre shredding V8.
Jag X type ?
ElShalimo - MemberJag X type ?
You mean a Mondeo in a party frock?
[quote=jimjam ]Shall I mention an AMG merc, as I always do? I mean; the op hasn't explicitly stated that he doesn't want a tyre shredding V8.
Far enough under budget he'll even be able to afford to run it for a while
http://www.yorkshirecarcentre.co.uk/used-cars/mercedes-benz-amg-5-4-e55-amg-5dr-goole-201501150180631
The red leather inserts do it for me.
It depends if you are a VWAG lover or not. If you want a car that is cheap to run and massive then the Mondeo estate is your vehicle of choice. The luggage space is much bigger than the A4 or Passat.
I like the Seat- the only 'problem' is the interior is more like the A4 for space?
If I was going down the VAG route I'd definitely have an A6 estate 😀
gribble - MemberStumpy01 - have they paved over the car park at Peaslake then?
I don't think so - unless Peaslake car park is in an industrial estate just of the A14 in Cambridgeshire.
Apparently they are thinking of dredging the peas out of the lake though, so it will soon just be called Lake.
Stumpy- you'd like peaslake - great riding round there (mtb and road).
(Plus you could park your car there in the Executive trail Directors boxes) 😀
I think what the VAG repair guy meant by the 'more reliable' comment was that Skoda dealers are more likely to fix any problems first time, whereas the VW dealers can be hit & miss - that might just be down to the local VW dealers around here tho.
He mentioned that the production lines for some of the Skoda models are newer than those at the VW plants - not sure how this affects reliability, but the fit & finish on my OH's new Skoda is the same as the ex-demo Polos that were looking at; the Skod has all the same kit as a Polo, but just a bit plainer looking inside.
Road noise wise, yes, I've found it depends on tyres, the OE Contis on our Octavia were v.noisy, but current Nokians are noticeably qiueter - tho I've experienced this with Pugs, Fords and Beemers too, so nothing new there 🙂
BMW 5 series estate petrol?
Probably nicer to drive than anything mentioned so far and the estate class is dominated by diesels which will probably have high miles.
For space the only thing that beats the superb is an e class estate, or a T5 van.
Edit: also consider a v70 petrol I guess.
Audi S4
Er, no. In the OP's price range you'll be looking at a B6/7 V8 ones which just aren't very good. They sound nice, but they're not great to drive. The B8 one is a different kettle of fish.
I'd be looking at an E60 with a six pot petrol engine at around £10k.
[i]you'll be looking at a B6/7 V8 ones
The B8 one
at an E60 [/i]
what is this language he speaks?? 😯
Is it [b]really[/b] necessary?

