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i'd add people that believe something because they've taken the time to read it. this applies to Daily Mail, Express, koran, bible and any other religious texts.
religions and their followers.
people that walk around in a hijab/burka thing in london (or anywhere else for that matter) sweating like a pig underneath. not neccessarily anti islam (although i am on the basis of it being a made up bullshit story), but rather having to get from my mates place near brick lane to liverpool st station on a sunday. it induces a gag reflex.
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that half bent bloke, mika. he's proper shit and offensively so. mate and i got chucked out of the V festival for throwing bottles at him whilst off our tits. ๐
kids. specifically the two boys in my kids class yesterday.
there is so much more but i'll just get myself pent up and pissed off about it and frankly there is very little i can do about it sitting here in my kitchen.
Pointless as it may be to engage with you.
I actually understand a lot about religion both the Christian sects and other religions. I understand religion. I do not understand how people can believe in it.
As for you comment on the catholic church and condom use you are so wrong it simply is not true.
You on the other hand are ignorant and vengeful and will thus be ignored in future.
Is there a restriction on Sunday alcohol buying
Yup, no buying of booze before 12-30 on a Sunday in Scotland(or it may be 12-00 I'm not sure). To be honest this is little more than a hang over and let's be honest who really wants to buy booze at that time on a Sunday.
There is no higher incidence of HIV infection in Catholic cultures than non-Catholic cultures !
In fact, if the Catholic views on sexual conduct were followed more tightly the spread (of AIDS) would be reduced, not increased. So one may argue that it is the lack of rigour in following Catholic beliefs that has caused the 'spread of AIDS' and the beliefs themselves are promoting healthy sexual behaviour.
That is particularly shakey ground you are on there. Whilst it is true that adherence to the strict Catholic views on sex would prevent the spread of all STDs it is also safe to say that the reluctance to accept the truth that it is an unworkable and ineffective policy has done more harm than good. To paraphrase Voltaire the search for a perfect solution should not be at the cost of an effective solution.
Incidentally I know of many people who identify as Catholics who do not follow the churches teachings on contraception and I'm not talking about young people either. I'll lay odds that many Catholic women use methods other that the rhythm method.
[i]You on the other hand are ignorant and vengeful[/i]
๐ Romans 12:19-21 ๐
[i]and will thus be ignored in future[/i]
Result....
So you're prepared to criticise something you don't understand....
I think it bizarre that you should think otherwise. I also criticise rapists yet I don't understand why they do it...
Hilldodger is right in one, probably only one sense, that is that religion may not be the actual cause of war, genocide and racism etc.
All conflicts between humans are the same as any social species - conflicts over RESOURCES, TERRITORY and SOCIAL STATUS, and these things would be going on with or without an invented cultural structure like religion.
Still, as humanity is supposedly self-aware, and has the ability to reason, thats not an excuse for NOT getting rid of it.
illdodger - Premier Member.................
"and will thus be ignored in future"Result....
You are the one wasting your time attacking me. I do not set out to attack you constantly. I wonder what is going on in your mind that you find it necessary to attack someone all the time.
Perhaps you should just give my postings the credence they deserve ๐ Merely the opinions of one person.
[i] let's be honest who really wants to buy booze at that time on a Sunday[/i]
well TJ for one, expect it's just for his "breakfast brandy coffee" though ๐
[i]To paraphrase Voltaire the search for a perfect solution should not be at the cost of an effective solution.[/i]
yes, I agree - but if you're looking to criticise belief systems on the basis of their impact on human health then there are far better targets than TJ's 'Catholic church spreads HIV' - I was just putting one alternate view for the sake of this discussion.....
Yup, no buying of booze before 12-30 on a Sunday in Scotland(or it may be 12-00 I'm not sure).
It changed last year, Sunday hours are the same as every other day now. About October I think so very recent.
[i]You are the one wasting your time attacking me. I do not set out to attack you constantly.[/i]
Funny that you should think an exchange of views (and one in which I've used no insulting or abusive language ) is an attack ๐
[i] I wonder what is going on in your mind that you find it necessary to attack someone all the time.[/i]
On call, bored, fun winding you up - simples ๐
[i] I also criticise rapists yet I don't understand why they do it... [/i]
No, but you do understand the act and concept of rape so are able to assess it as an act if not the motivation for it...
Hilldodger - you clearly are making personal attacks on me and doing so deliberately. There is a significant difference between debate and personal attacks.
Are you really that sad and unfulfilled that it amuses you to make these attacks? How sad.
[i]and will thus be ignored in future[/i]
apparently not ๐
Barsnleymitch wrote:
A few million atheists living with a few million Jews and a few million Creationists"
So it's all the fault of the Catholics, Christians and Muslims then is it?
Haha, forgot how careful you need to word your posts on this forum! Don't have the space to list every creed, race and religion, this is a random few to get the idea across.
Andyp wrote:
Gas chambers perhaps?
Would you believe I don't even read the Daily Mail? Equal rights to one kid for all, no discrimination (except, naturally, against fat overweight benefit scrounging single mothers, and the slackers that sired them). I'm pro life, just in smaller quantities. Gas chambers are for baking comestibles in and for small scale one-at-a-time crematoriums ๐
the bogtrotters.
chuckle.
the bogtrotters.
except it's rare we can agree on anything ๐
Junkyard, apologies, not you.TJ,telling somebody you are going to ignore him, then not...pretty funny. Listing examples of how God affects your life,even funnier!
"Haha, forgot how careful you need to word your posts on this forum! Don't have the space to list every creed, race and religion, this is a random few to get the idea across."
Aye, dont upset the Catholic massive, I'll have to get all spanish inquisition on your arse! ๐
On threads like this it's worth remembering -
"You can't use logic to talk someone out of a position that they didn't use logic to get into in the first place."
Rational discourse is dependent upon shared assumptions.
Back to the OP
The Vegetarian Society
Back to the OP-
Mormons.
Its too close sounding to the excellent group the Moomins. It can be confusing ๐
Its too close sounding to the excellent group the Moomins.
to be fair, I think moomins are a different species, like snorks, hemulens and hattifatteners
You made that last one up Barnes!
I know but when I tell people that Im a Moomin (usually after a few jars)- they mishear and think I want to talk to them about Jesus.