[Closed] Well done Bayern

As a Man City season ticket holder I'd just like to say thank you to both teams, managers, supporters for two excellent games. I wouldn't want to change a minute of it. Going 3-0 up and then f*****g it up (for some reason I want to sing Galatasory when I think of that) was pure poetry but special thanks has go to the teamyeti person on here and idave for the excelent Longsight comment :-}

It was a good game. Bayern were a bit better (more precise? clinical? German?) so they are through.
May I remind the blue Mancs they will, probably, play Europa League next year, not CL?

just an aside to teamyeti and his reference to checking history, as your own royal family changed its name from Saxa-Coburg and Gotha to Windsor due to anti German sentiment (fuelled no doubt by people like teamyeti) during the First World War, I think you might just check before calling other people names. Also surely we can't still bear a grudge against a nation for something they have done in the past? If so then Im sure we wont have to look to far for a whole world of nations who could blame us for a lot of things 🙂

And finally , wooohooooo they are out they are out

ahem no bias here m'lud

Wheres rudeboy when you need him? He would be all over this thread like a bad rash!

As for yeti - jeez I didnt know 10 yr olds were still up..What a plum!

oh Alex,,such a gracious knight of the realm,,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8605786.stm

Good to hear Fergie highlighting the problem of players pressurising refs to get fellow professionals booked, at least we'll see none of that from his players this weekend....

Please explain the MOT thing......

Leeds - Marching on together.

Is that a Leeds song or something?

Still can't see what "Marching on Together" has to do with Leeds

Yes it is.

You couldnt make it up!

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You know threads like this always confuse me. Apparently the attitude of "anyone but Man Utd" is a perfecty acceptable position to hold and yet the attitude of "anyone but England" is not.

Football. It cetainly seems to bring out the worst in people.

edited to avoid a ban. Yeti p?/(<k i lived in germany whilst serving in the army. And its a great place with great people, unlike here 🙁 (well some)

And its a great place with great people, unlike here (well some)

Yesterday a group of Bayern fans asked me pub advice. Afterwards EVERY SINGLE one said thank you politely.

If it was Man U fans I'd expect 'ere mate' then yeah cheers.

yes it could but he wasnt slaggin any other place but germany

oh and i meant this site and him with the comment not this country 🙂

Nothing quite like football to unite the masses.

May I remind the blue Mancs they will, probably, play Europa League next year, not CL?

Chances are - Man City will be playing Champions League next season if you look at their fixtures and compare them to Spurs'. 🙁

supporting a german team, dont you know your history you prick.

As someone with German heritage i lol'd.

supporting a german team, dont you know your history you prick.

Do you work on an engineering shopfloor or warehouse carrying boxes?

I used to go out with a german girl. What does that make me?? Yes, football really does reveal a lot about people.

Pook was she heavily into 'sausages'?

Here we go with Leeds United,
We're gonna give the boys a hand,
Stand up and sing for Leeds united,
They are the greatest in the land,

na na na

Everyday, we're al gonna say,
We love you Leeds! Leeds! Leeds!
Everywhere, we're gonna be there,
We, love you Leeds! Leeds! Leeds!

Marching On Together!
We're gonna see you win
na na na na na na
We are so proud,
We shout it out loud we love you Leeds! Leeds! Leeds!

We've been through it all together,
And we've had our ups and downs (UPS AND DOWNS!)
We're gonna stay with you forever,
at least until the world stops going round

na na na

Everyday, we're all gonna say we love you Leeds!Leeds!Leeds!
Everywhere, we're gonna be there,
We, love you Leeds! Leeds! Leeds!

Marching On Together!
We're gonna see you win
na na na na na na
We are so proud,
We shout it out loud we love you Leeds! Leeds! Leeds!
We are so proud, we shout it out Loud we love you LEEDS! LEEDS! LEEDS!

( Sing it loud n Sing it Proud 😉 )

Leeds? The team thats slipped from a certain promotional spot? 😆

Leeds? The team thats slipped from a certain promotional spot?

It's football innit?

If I was to support a 'big' team it would be Barcelona. I love what they did with their shirt sponsor. Go on, someone tell me something murky about that..?

Pictures like the one posted by surfer are one of the main reasons I hate association football. That behaviour is absolutely disgusting.

I bet Rafael feels a bit silly this morning for picking up that first yellow card unnecessarily.

For me its got nothing to do with history etc for me. I support British teams because i am British. I support English teams because i am english. I dont support German teams because they are functional at best. I like to watch Barca etc because they play good football.

So as a Spurs supporter i supported ARSEnal against Barca, i supported Manure against Bayern and if Rangers/Celtic were good enough i would be supporting them.

The thing that makes me laugh is those previously are having a go at the guy for calling people pricks for supporting other countries (Yes not needed) but he has a point about your lack of support for your own country/isles. His point is just as valid as your appreciation of nice football. Hell if that was the case then we would all support barca. How can you call people tribal knuckle draggers when the essence of football support is based on tribal rivalries?

But the point really is - we can all support who we want and why we want - you have just given your reasons for who you do and do not support but stop for a minute and think that other people have other reasons.

Neither is right.

Neither is wrong.

Why is Football always about 'us and them'?

No wonder it attracts those who believe in racism and homophobia.

For me it's quite simple - my club comes first. Second is whoever are playing against ManU.
Third is Newcastle Utd as they are my wife's favourite team.

Country doesn't come into it. Ever.

Will I be supporting England at the world cup? Possibly, if I've nothing better to do. But if Leeds Utd were on one channel & England were on another, i'd be watching Leeds.

Club v country? Club every time

Why is Football always about 'us and them'?

Not sure it would work otherwise!

[i]But the point really is - we can all support who we want and why we want - you have just given your reasons for who you do and do not support but stop for a minute and think that other people have other reasons.[/i]

Totally agree. Maybe the point is that I find it hard to stomach peoples lack of national pride. This is what it boils down to and is maybe why the guy originally had a go about remembering your history.

surfer. A group of people support a privately owned business by buying their products annually, wishing them on, tattooing the name of the company on their arm with '4 ever' and then exposing their impressionable children to the sponsor's whose names are 'we like to gamble dot com' etc.

Ontop of this people who support other private companies are treated like Satans children and must be glassed or jeered at (depending whether your son or wife is with you at the time).

Whereas Rugby is full of real hardmen actually on the pitch. Did I mention that I don't like football or the people that base their lives round it? 😆

It has nothing to do with national pride though - especially as most of the bigger clubs have more oversees players and are owned by foreign owners/investors.

Fergie ought to be giving the hairdryer treatment to Rafael, his silly cards lost it for them IMO.

My worry is that it suggests a certain level of racism disguised by the veneer of football tribalism/support.

edit: has teamyeti had a ban/cooling off period enforced 'pon his ass?

[i]It has nothing to do with national pride though - especially as most of the bigger clubs have more oversees players and are owned by foreign owners/investors. [/i]

Hmmm, lets get this straight

Big club
Based in England for over 100yrs
Fan Base for vast majority of that time British
Vast majority of players over last 100yrs - British
British owners for the vast majority of the 100yrs

So just because there has been an influx of foriegn ownership and players over the last 10yrs we have to let all that history go to waste. See all them United supporters wearing their green and yellow scarves, they would beg to differ.

I am English and support Newcastle United, but in Europe I always hope the English teams lose as a purely Newcastle function. If the English team wins, they get richer, making it harder for the Toon to compete against them in the future. The inequality gets greater etc etc. So as a Toon fan I could never support another to the detriment of my team.

I am also an ABU because Fergie is an arrogant shite

surfer. A group of people support a privately owned business by buying their products annually, wishing them on, tattooing the name of the company on their arm with '4 ever' and then exposing their impressionable children to the sponsor's whose names are 'we like to gamble dot com' etc.

Ontop of this people who support other private companies are treated like Satans children and must be glassed or jeered at (depending whether your son or wife is with you at the time).

Whereas Rugby is full of real hardmen actually on the pitch. Did I mention that I don't like football or the people that base their lives round it?

"Them and us" is natural up to a point in a game which has to have winners and losers. As a Liverpool fan I like it when we beat other teams and hate to lose. My friends and relatives support lots of different teams and we make fun of each others results etc.
They are all natural emotions and reactions that neither lead me to "glass" "jeer" (ok maybe a bit!) others.
One doesnt lead necessarily to the other and "them versus us" may be necessary but doesnt always have to be particularly negative.

I am English and support Newcastle United, but in Europe I always hope the English teams lose as a purely Newcastle function. If the English team wins, they get richer, making it harder for the Toon to compete against them in the future.

And there is Newcastle's delusion of grandeuer summed up. Just promoted from the championship and they still think that they're in a position to compete with Man Utd etc.
Hear's the news, you've never been a top club and having all the fans in the world will never give you a heritage of success.

Two teams played one won,one lost & that's football('cept when it's a draw of course).Why people have to get so deep about it is beyond me.......

Its when people call it the 'beautiful game' that baffles me. I really don't get that. Is it meant ironic.

Maybe Italian football. Not English on a pisswet-February night as Shrek of Manure runs into someone and their fans munch on more fried food in the stands.

Hmmm, lets get this straight

Big club
Based in England for over 100yrs
Fan Base for vast majority of that time British
Vast majority of players over last 100yrs - British
British owners for the vast majority of the 100yrs

So just because there has been an influx of foriegn ownership and players over the last 10yrs we have to let all that history go to waste. See all them United supporters wearing their green and yellow scarves, they would beg to differ.