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I'm not sure how much more transparent they can be.
I think we are talking at cross purposes. My initial response to dazh was about telling him that although stw isn't google or Microsoft, it is still a business and it should be resourced commensurate with its commercial ambition - which I believe it is. and as such it's OK to report defects even if the devs aren't around to respond immediately.
I have also had a dodgy ad redirect "Google store you've won blah blah". Android 6.
I got this site suddenly switching to something that looked a bit like play store telling me I had won something. It also mentioned I was a BT customer which might just be a guess but could it also mean the site is hacked?
I'm quite impressed - can't say I've ever usedd the forums on iPhone previously due to the text size.
The box I'm typing this in now is about 10-15% wider than my phone can display though.
Ok, after a couple of days using the forum on my aged pad, and my phone, there are really only two issues that I have problems with.
Both involve the double-tap zoom function; firstly, when I have the main list page open, I used to be able to double-tap to zoom the thread title out to make text easier to read, that's no longer possible, so I'm now forced to wear reading glasses to enable me to find out what each thread is about.
The same applies to the reply text box, which I cannot now zoom out to fit the width of the page to enable me to read the text I'm typing in, even on my iPad, which is an annoyance.
It's not just double-tap, the two-finger pinch function doesn't work, either.
This is on the pad, which is restricted to iOS 9, on the phone, which is running the latest version of iOS 10 those functions appear to be working.
I'm not about to buy a new iPad to enable me to use the forum property, I'm waiting on a new range in March.
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This unkillable Google survey is now becoming beyond a joke
Agreed
Have you reported it to mods/tech?
(though one would assume they are monitoring this thread)
I thought this thread WAS the development monitor
Chrome, latest update, and Android 6, latest update and PHONE, bv6000, latest firmware, BTW
iPad Mini. I have to tap everything twice to get it to work. Navigation buttons, send post button, text styling buttons. Aaarghhhhhh!
I've won a NY lotto and my tablet is infected pages are getting a pain.
I never thought i'd say this....but I'm beginning to drift from this site 🙁
No real problems for me (ipad / iphone) am able to get quote test same size by adding two <carriage returns> After opening [ quote ] and an extra one after [ /quote ] to get the first line of test after a decent size.
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Have you reported it to mods/tech?
I've no idea whether anyone's around over Chrimble, but I've fired off an email.
I'm guessing that the annoying pop-ups are nothing to do with the redesign in any case.
They annoying virus/you've won a prize pop ups never happened before the update tho. And they don't happen when browsing elsewhere
I'm guessing that the annoying pop-ups are nothing to do with the redesign in any case.
Depends on what other changes were made under the hood when the new and improved mobile wrapper was pasted on.
Again, and I know I don't pay anything towards the site apart from ad revenue so should shut the hell up, but it seems an odd decision to unleash this project just before knocking off for Chrimbo.
What firestarter said, no pop ups or aggressive ads before the update, only happens on this site
They don't happen to me here.
They don't happen to me here.
Because you have chosen to support the site via a Premier subscription. This appears to be affecting those who are doing so via viewing adverts.
Actually they were here before the redesign...I'd emailed and posted a few times about this. Seems far more common now. Think it was a rogue banner then...
My wife would like to thank the developers for giving her husband back.
I'm not a frequent poster in comparison to some but I do like to check on the progress of threads I have previously posted on. The lack of 'forum activity' link on the mobile versions has made this too tricky to bother so my visitations have significantly reduced.
She says if I'm an idiot and there is another way to do this now I have not spotted not to tell me as I'll get back to my bad ways.
So when I browse to www.singletrackworld.com I just see the stories tiles. Pre-design weren't there links to the forums and loads of other stuff from the home page? I know there are forums, so click on the drop down menu in the top left. But would new visitors know how to find the forums?. (Old tech: iPad 2, Safari, iOS 9.3.5).
But would new visitors know how to find the forums?.
welcome to the new version of the web, shiny responsive and beautiful but almost always not what you want (not a complaint against this site. Just responsive sites in general)
Can't wait until we get over this whole sliding this and ajax that and get back to focusing on content
Grump over
Not for me this new mobile version, main bug bears being slower navigation and no zoom but I've at least learnt i can go to Menu and select 'Request desktop site' in Android which I never realised existed...silver lining and all that 😀
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I know this is not the normal channel to report this but you guys really need to stop this rogue advert that keeps taking over!
Due to the suspect pop-ups the site isn't really usable in Chrome on Android.
When using Opera for Android the hamburger menu is unusable.
Speaking of ads and popups. The video banner at the top of the page doesn't mute, or pause. Couldn't read STW at all while listening to my Christmas Carols...
I miss the days when websites were fast, didn't jump around while you were reading and you didn't need three different browsers in order to be able to use all the sites you needed. Its worse than bikes and wheel sizes these days
Its worse than bikes and wheel sizes these days
Steady on, old boy...in the bike industry, they are apparently called 'standards'...out here in the Wilds, it is called 'Survival'...
I miss the days when websites were fast, didn't jump around while you were reading and you didn't need three different browsers in order to be able to use all the sites you needed. Its worse than bikes and wheel sizes these days
What other sites give you issues?
The "hamburger" icon is pretty much a standard these days (though it must be 30 years old). I'm guessing most folk would know to try it. Getting to your Profile by selecting your username from that menu should be intuitive given it is highlighted by the same colour as other buttons.I know there are forums, so click on the drop down menu in the top left. But would new visitors know how to find the forums?. (Old tech: iPad 2, Safari, iOS 9.3.5).
Now it's William Hill spamming Android with a whole screen popup.
I have also been getting the fake Google play pop-up posted by gofasterstripes [i]et al[/i].
Three times in two days (Samsung Galaxy Android 6.0.1).
Two further days of not viewing STW on a phone – no pop-ups.
Please can you add the last poster name and a link to the last post back to the main forum view.
for banking I always drop back to IE and the Eurostar site sometimes misbehaves in Chrome. It's random, but whenever I struggle with misbehaving sites these days I just switch browser as a first fix. Chrome can be a bit of a resource hog as well so I often end up in Edge which I would never have expectedWhat other sites give you issues?
I do like to check on the progress of threads I have previously posted on. The lack of 'forum activity' link on the mobile versions has made this too tricky to bother so my visitations have significantly reduced.She says if I'm an idiot and there is another way to do this now I have not spotted not to tell me as I'll get back to my bad ways.
Click the 3 horizontal stripes top left(menu)
Click your forum name(green button)
Click forum activity.
Well one good thing about the update is that it gives encouragement to those who's NY resolution is to spend less time on here 😕
Just been getting a warning message that Firefox would like to use my camera and record audio when opening some threads on here.
Firefox on Android fwiw.
The site keeps freezing on Chrome. Other tabs still working perfectly, but STW can't scroll.
And the lack of zoom on a tablet/phone is hideous.
All good on MacAir/ Safari, just tried it out.
And reiterate iPhone and iPad all good too.
Hi all,
The ad issues are unrelated to the site changes. It's the time of year that's the issue. Let me explain..
In the run up to christmas the demand for advertising increases and the CPM paid (cost per 1000) subsequently increases. This has the positive effect of improving the quality of the ads as only the big and generally respectable ad agencies can afford the higher CPMs. This drives down the instances of the rogue and shitty ads that trigger pop ups and other nasty crap.
Now we are in the post christmas ad slump their are more instances of the crappy low value ads creeping into the system as demand is very low right now. It will pick up again in the next few days and the first couple of weeks in January will be good too.
Now, the other factor at work is the frequency of user visits to the site. The ads work by being capped per user. ie. the high paying ads will be capped so that typically a single user will only see 4 of that particular ad in a 24 hour period. The theory (backed up by good evidence) is that after the 4th impression the chances of that user clicking that ad drops off a cliff.
The effect here is that if you come to the site with a clean browser or without having visited the site for 24 hours then the first ads you will see will be the highest paying and generally highest quality (well behaved) ads. The more pages you visit in that 24 hour period the more of the good inventory you will 'burn through' until you reach the cheaper and less well behaved ads.
When demand is low for advertising you will hit the low quality ads quicker then when demand is high.
All that said, when the rogue ads (and by that I mean the ads that cause pop ups that break the toc's of the networks) then I do my best to track them down and report them to the networks that are supplying them. We work with trusted networks only that have a human being at the other end of my support emails. But it's still impossible to drive them all out for good - it's a constant battle.
Premier users will soon have ads off by default on login - you won't need to go and push a button.... unless you want them on.
And the new site layout is causing the entire ad system to relearn itself and I'm hopeful that as the networks learn what we have done the ad quality will increase and the instances of shit ads will decrease.
Keep reporting any ad issues to us though at tech@... and I'll do my best to fix things. Screen grans always helpful but urls of where they try to take you are better.
I've seen ScreenGrans(.com) - never again 😮
I wish my tablet would remember to request the desktop site, otherwise all good.