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MOLGRIPS !!!.

Haven't heard from you, forever.

How the hell are you ?.

Where have you been ???.


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 10:18 pm
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He's been riding around Cwm Carn with me 🙂

Re: the pizza thiing.. is that just ignorance then??


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 10:22 pm
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Apologies for a little hijack:

Molgrips - has babygrips arrived yet?


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 10:25 pm
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[i]is that just ignorance then[/i]

Racist !.


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 10:25 pm
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Yeti, yes it is ignorance. Eating well does not have to be expensive. How much is a tin of kidney beans ffs?

Solo - I'm not working, so not spending all day online any more 🙂 Got lots of interviews next week tho.

CG, yes baby arrived in the downstairs hallway 2 weeks ago, I posted a thread on it of course 🙂

I feel warm and fuzzy now 🙂


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 10:33 pm
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[i]CG, yes baby arrived in the downstairs hallway 2 weeks ago, I posted a thread on it of course

I feel warm and fuzzy now
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Thats good news. Really good news. Warmest congrats to you and Mrs Grips.
😉


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 10:36 pm
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molgrips - I've only recently got back online due to house move. So, come on, tell me your news. 🙂

Edit: just found your thread. Congratulations to you all. 😀 How's your daughter doing, and MrsGrips too?


 
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Gwen fed ok the first couple of days, then struggled as the milk came in but is doing really well now, it looks to be sorted out. Only thing is feeding a lot for comfort at random times, but very well behaved otherwise. Beth is pretty tired of course but getting stronger every day. Done a few things with the two kids as practice for when I go back to work.. going to be tough I think for a while when that happens.


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 10:41 pm
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Some babies do need to comfort-feed - they're all different! Glad is going well though. Are you still in Germany?


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 11:03 pm
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Hell no, made sure we came back to the UK before the baby was born.


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 11:36 pm
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Congrats on the child molgrips hope you are all doing well- also missed the thread.


 
Posted : 26/08/2011 11:49 pm
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Mr Tazzy... you have no e-mail address!


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 11:41 am
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TSY, 10.30am start?


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 11:44 am
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Sounds good, it's about a 2 hr drive from mine.


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 11:52 am
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Back on topic for a bit (feel I've earned it after reading the last 6 pages..) but there's a few things contributing to this, economically: the fact that the % of folk (was gonna say working class but that's prob not fair) nowadays that arent doing more physical manual type labour has to have decreased dramatically. Poss due to the death of widespread manufacturing/heavy industry that we used to have?
Societal: folk dont really give a shit about much these days... No sense of personal responsibility.. Ie, if I can't "get" a job, I'll get onto benefits, if I want to drink myself into a stupor everyday before lunchtime, someone will come along and pick my vomit and shit stained torso out the gutter and take me to hospital, if I want to eat shite, fatty foods all day every day, well, then I'll be obese and I will need to claim more benefits, utilise the Nhs and generally drain the country's resources!!


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 12:56 pm
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there was a wonderful nutrition researcher on R4 any answers who gave an excellent summary of the carbohydrate-obesity link. well worth a listen when it's available

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/search?q=any%20answers


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 2:47 pm
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TSY, have emailed you info on meeting point


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 2:58 pm
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TSY- I'm out tomorrow so I'll keep an eye out for sheer awesomeness in pink and some old dude. Look for a freak with a freaks bike


 
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[i]there was a wonderful nutrition researcher on R4 any answers who gave an excellent summary of the carbohydrate-obesity link. well worth a listen when it's available[/i]

I heard that, but there was something about her slightly loud and assertive voice that reminded me a bit of twinset and pearls countryside alliance types who'd hector people about how much the fox really enjoys being chased and all this talk about not very nice is just plain silly nonsense.

Oh, Spotted this earlier 🙂

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Posted : 27/08/2011 4:57 pm
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Yeah, down with posh people...


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 5:18 pm
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Can someone then explain why Eskimo and other Inuit peoples who eat low carb, high fat, high protien diet are all fat with much shorter lifespans than even their obese neighbours in North America?

I'm not yet sold on the carb/obesity link, more on the too much avaialble carbs in the west link personally, especially given that carbs form 90% of the African diet yet they are not often fat due to lack of availability of food.


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 5:23 pm
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Yeah, down with posh people...

careful now.


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 5:24 pm
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No one is suggesting a low carb diet, at least I'm not. I'm suggesting a low sugar and high GI-highly processed carb diet. Modern Inuit are quite sedentary and also have a largely western diet now.


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 5:29 pm
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@dangerousbeans because the thin ones die of the cold historically? To be fair most are more overweight than obese.

Having a few people a bit overweight is not a problem, that's natural variance to some extent and it of course possible to overweight and fit and healthy. Obesity is a different matter and it's simply too much shit food.


 
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But even prior to the western diet they were dying much earlier, usually from cancers or circulatory diseases, once environmental deaths were accounted for. Lung cancer especially was a problem, it's theorised that this was a result of indoor fires with poor ventilation.

The woman on the radio seemed very anti-carb which was why I mentioned it, I still feel that it's the availability of refined carbs which causes us the most problems in the developed world.

The Brick - I'm overweight and fit, honest.

OK then, I used to be fit.


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 5:35 pm
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i think the first guy on R4 had it.

plate manufacturers are to blame!!!


 
Posted : 27/08/2011 6:08 pm
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who eat low carb, high fat, high protien diet

is that true?


 
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