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There seems to be a few watches sold on here recently so I've stuck a few of mine rthat aren't getting word much anymore on the Classifieds if anyone's interested.

Nice North Flag there geolog. I can never decide if I really like them or not though, but at least they are interesting and not so derivative.
The market at the moment is all heritage inspired (which I like) but it does make more modern sports / divers seem a bit unusual.
Just been looking at a Formex Reef which looks really good, but kinda out of place in the current market as it's really modern - That said, I think their Essence 39 is going to be a purchase at some point in the future. Outside of the Rolex Explorer 1 I think it's one of my favourite sports watches, and looks great value too.


 
Posted : 21/02/2021 6:11 pm
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If you're posting a watch within the UK, which service is best to use? Look like Royal Mail Special Delivery would cover up to £500


 
Posted : 22/02/2021 2:12 pm
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So my 2006 Aquaracer Chrono has gotten stiff to wind in the mornings. It seems to run ok, but does this mean I need to fork out for servicing? It’s never been serviced...


 
Posted : 22/02/2021 3:05 pm
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So my 2006 Aquaracer Chrono has gotten stiff to wind in the mornings. It seems to run ok, but does this mean I need to fork out for servicing? It’s never been serviced…

Think you've answered your own question there.
If it doesn't feel right, then it probably isn't & won't fix itself - so sounds like a service is due, especially as it is 15 years old & never previously serviced.


 
Posted : 22/02/2021 4:41 pm
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If you’re posting a watch within the UK, which service is best to use? Look like Royal Mail Special Delivery would cover up to £500

RMSD covers up to £500 as standard with the option to insure up to 2.5k.


 
Posted : 22/02/2021 4:46 pm
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For higher value watches, people generally seem to use RM Special Delivery + Securus insurance.
That may be only for items over the £2.5k limit, or perhaps the Securus cover is just better / easier.

On a side note, I always thought RMSD was RM signed delivery until just now and so used it for sales adverts.... ooops.


 
Posted : 22/02/2021 5:50 pm
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If you’re posting a watch within the UK, which service is best to use? Look like Royal Mail Special Delivery would cover up to £500

I recently posted a Bell & Ross that I sold, insured up to 2.5k; was about £25/30. Arrived next day.


 
Posted : 22/02/2021 6:04 pm
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Slight thread hijack, sorry- has anyone regulated their automatic watch themselves? It's a Certina with an ETA 2824 moveent, if that helps. It's losing about 3 -4 minutes a week, I'd loike to think it could be a wee bit better than that. It was serviced about 12 months ago.


 
Posted : 22/02/2021 7:08 pm
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I've done my cheaper watches, there are plenty of YouTube clips to show how it's done. Does that movement have the cam with the Y shaped fork adjuster? Should make it fairly easy, the ones with just a stick can be difficult, really sensative to the tiniest movement. Recommend the Clock Tuner app to make the task easier.


 
Posted : 22/02/2021 9:03 pm
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This guy is not a bad place to start at.


 
Posted : 22/02/2021 9:28 pm
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the ones with just a stick can be difficult, really sensitive to the tiniest movement.

Like the adjuster on Seiko movements? I can attest to their sensitivity, when I wanted to regulate my SPORK! Took several goes, the final adjustment was an almost unmeasurable nudge, which took it from losing a minute a week, to gaining a minute a month, which I felt was acceptable.
The new movement which I had fitted to my Heimdallr Tuna, and which I set when I got it back on the 9 of January is currently exactly 1’30” slow, which isn’t bad for a cheap Seiko movement!
I’m certainly not going to fiddle with it, too little margin for a large error.
I took a couple more photos in daylight yesterday, to show the little Torx screws I had made, and a better pic with the new face, hands and lumed ceramic bezel.


 
Posted : 22/02/2021 11:47 pm
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Like the adjuster on Seiko movements? I can attest to their sensitivity,

Breath on the adjuster, watch gains a minute more a day.

They are a pain. There was a guy that made an adjuster. IIRC, basically a dowel with a slot that goes over the shaft of the adjuster 'arrow'. The dowel was inside a tube. The tube had a cardboard circle on the top the dowel had a needle through it. You hold the tube, turn the dowel, the needle shows the degree of movement. Something along those lines. Still took him a few times to get it right. Now you know why they come out of the factory at + 30s a day.


 
Posted : 23/02/2021 3:47 am
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"has anyone regulated their automatic watch themselves? "

Yes. Regulated two Vostoks. Both from being 40-50s a day fast to under +10-15s.

I moved the adjuster the absolutely smallest amount I could. Got it down to acceptable under 15s a day first time on one watch. Overdid it and needed a tiny push back with the other one.

I only wear the same watch for a couple of days in a row so accuracy isn't a big deal. In fact as he Vostoks second hand doesn't stop when adjusting the time I only set them approximately anyway.


 
Posted : 23/02/2021 7:23 pm
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ETA movements with the micro adjust regulator are easy to do, but if it hasn't been serviced in over 12 years it'll need more than just regulating.

Seiko can be an absolute pita to regulate, even with a timegrapher. If your watch is 20s/d out and you see the arm move then you've moved it too far. Trying to get it from 5s/d to 0s/d is done more on feel than vision as the required movement is so small. It is possible to do it without a timegrapher by making a single adjustment, observe after 24h, adjust again and repeat for a few weeks until it's acceptable but life's too short for that. Much easier to hand it over to a watchmaker or spend £150 on a timegrapher and then you'll also know that the beat error has been adjusted correctly.


 
Posted : 23/02/2021 7:23 pm
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@geolog I’ve got a North Flag too and really like it. It just feels robust and doesn’t need any sort of kid gloves or care taken with it. Mine has a few scrapes and nicks along the edges of the case.


 
Posted : 23/02/2021 10:40 pm
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It is possible to do it without a timegrapher by making a single adjustment, observe after 24h, adjust again and repeat for a few weeks until it’s acceptable but life’s too short for that.

Ha! Amen to that! TBH, with a hackable movement, which my SPORK hasn’t got, it’s just so easy to reset the time once a week, or month or whatever, takes literally a few seconds to do.
I’ve been very tempted to get a better quality hackable movement for my SPORK, it was the first to use the 4R15 calibre, now replaced by the 4R35/36. I guess that just putting a 4R36 in would be perfectly ok, but it’s such a nice watch, and relatively rare and long discontinued, that a better calibre is tempting, but I’m not sure what’s available and reasonable with hacking and hand-winding.
Suggestions, please, from the more knowledgeable here. 😁


 
Posted : 23/02/2021 11:38 pm
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Ha! Amen to that! TBH, with a hackable movement, which my SPORK hasn’t got, it’s just so easy to reset the time once a week, or month or whatever, takes literally a few seconds to do.
I’ve been very tempted to get a better quality hackable movement for my SPORK, it was the first to use the 4R15 calibre, now replaced by the 4R35/36. I guess that just putting a 4R36 in would be perfectly ok, but it’s such a nice watch, and relatively rare and long discontinued, that a better calibre is tempting, but I’m not sure what’s available and reasonable with hacking and hand-winding.
Suggestions, please, from the more knowledgeable here. 😁

The 6R15 is an upgraded 4R36/NH36 and will work, but I personally wouldn't pay the extra for one. Cousins have the NH36 for £30 plus vat and the 6R15 for £255 plus vat and the only difference between them is the 6r uses a different steel for the hairspring and mainspring, so the 6r is slightly more resistant to magnetism and has a few hours extra power reserve. Hardly worth it for almost 9x the cost.


 
Posted : 24/02/2021 6:33 pm
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'ETA movements with the micro adjust regulator are easy to do, but if it hasn’t been serviced in over 12 years it’ll need more than just regulating'

It was serviced about 2 years ago - but the accuracy didn't improve. So do I just gently nudge the adjuster towards the '+' symbol?


 
Posted : 25/02/2021 11:18 am
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Have a look at a YouTube video because there are two adjusters, one does the speed and the other the beat error. It has got the micro adjust so difficult to get it wrong, (move the screw head not the stick bit and yes, towards + to increase) but worth 10 mins of your time to be sure.
Tiny movements and as I suggested above get Clock Tuner on your phone so you're not having to resort to multiple days of adjust/wear cycles. It works like a basic timegrapher that Fudd recommended but the free version should be OK for your purposes rather than spend £150. Hold the microphone on your phone as close to the watch as possible in a quiet room for best performance.


 
Posted : 25/02/2021 11:45 am
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the only difference between them is the 6r uses a different steel for the hairspring and mainspring

That, and a Seiko service will cost you more than twice as much! I've an Alpinist with a 6r15 and if anything goes seriously amiss with the movement I'll be happily downgrading to an NH36 rather than pay the 6r premium.


 
Posted : 25/02/2021 1:38 pm
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Ive made the mistake of counting my watches. 10.

Its not good is it...


 
Posted : 27/02/2021 5:18 pm
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Ive made the mistake of counting my watches. 10.

Its not good is it…

No, not good news at all. You're going to need some finger implants.


 
Posted : 27/02/2021 8:07 pm
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@eddiebaby

that's cool but the size of the thing!

63mm???


 
Posted : 27/02/2021 9:11 pm
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I know.
Its a comedy watch but there must be the odd occasion you could wear it. Maybe a Back To The Future convention.


 
Posted : 27/02/2021 9:33 pm
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Not before I’ve ebayed most of them tomorrow.


 
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Very similar number as well Kryton, but due to The pandemic I’ve not seen or had access to two of my watches since December 2019, one of them I really like as well. They’re locked in a safe I don’t have access to!!
I’m tempted with making a new purchase but would need to sell two watches.....only problem is the wife bought me one of the ones I’d off load....not overly sure I’d survive intact if I even mentioned it!!
Years ago an ex RAF friend of mine purchased a Bell & Ross (square face one resembling a WWII fighter “dashboard”?, anyway I was politely saying how I really liked it (I didn’t)...but the wife bought me a similar one. I feel really bad for wanting rid, but it’s sat there not getting used. She mentions it, but I call it my office watch and I’m working from home.
Chopard Mille Miglia Gran Turismo XL is my current favourite and tempting me.


 
Posted : 27/02/2021 10:15 pm
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Thinking of selling my green sumo (generation 3, current one with sapphire crystal and upgraded movement). Would anybody be interested, before I stick it on the classifieds?


 
Posted : 28/02/2021 6:14 pm
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Kryton - post up a link to your ebay antics. Neilnevill a pic says a 1000 words.
I have found classifieds on here an absolute delight.
I have found ebay to be 20% nutters who buy something from me and then pull out - I am waiting for the other 20% who want to return the item I have posted and then finally the 20% fee invoice.


 
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Kryton, I'm disappointed. Only 10? Two years since you started this thread and poured petrol on my own addiction; much worse since lockdown with my Ebay watch list being mostly

watches...

Latest acquisition was a Chronologica carbon-cased diver which looked well cool in photos online but sadly looks like plastic in real life


 
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Feel dirty, Sharkey orange monster arrived today.


 
Posted : 01/03/2021 7:13 pm
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I have found classifieds on here an absolute delight.

Aw, cheers Wally. 😍
I've ordered a nice new strap for it from Barton Bands.


 
Posted : 01/03/2021 7:44 pm
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@bungle lol, I’m sorry. I’ve pulled myself together now and although I shan’t be buying so easily in the future, I’ve kind of categorised my watches appropriately. Even I dont know how my head works sometimes but I had some kind of “MUST WEAR ALL OF THEM!” angst in my head.

Now I’m back to accepting if one gets shut in the box for six months well, so what. The 10th one hasn’t arrived yet, it’s a rather good looking piece coming from Meranom (eventually) which is of course a clue.


 
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it’s a rather good looking piece coming from Meranom (eventually) which is of course a clue.

Vostoks! The Lada of the watch world. I've got 3.


 
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@kryton657

You're forgiven.

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Vostoks.... Hmmmmmm, only got 1 of them

so far...

Damn


 
Posted : 01/03/2021 11:58 pm
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The 6R15 is an upgraded 4R36/NH36 and will work, but I personally wouldn’t pay the extra for one. Cousins have the NH36 for £30 plus vat and the 6R15 for £255 plus vat and the only difference between them is the 6r uses a different steel for the hairspring and mainspring, so the 6r is slightly more resistant to magnetism and has a few hours extra power reserve. Hardly worth it for almost 9x the cost.

@Fudd - thank you, that’s actually the movement I was looking at, the 6R15, but I had no idea of the sort of price they go for. My thinking was to use a movement that’s actually marked Seiko, as the watch is a Seiko, but your point about the price difference is very well made! 😁


 
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With all due respect I disagree about the movement recommendation by Fudd.

The 6R15 has an extra 10 hours power reserve (getting it over the 2 day, 48 hours magic mark) and the spec is to be 20 seconds a day less variable than a 4R36 you mentioned.

In addition, the 4r36 is a day and date movement whereas the 6r15 is just the date.

Personally, if on a budget I would go for the answer inadvertently touched on by referencing the NH36. Buy a NH15, sometimes called an NE15 movement. These are the same as the 6R15 movement, made by Seiko but unbranded to be fitted to other manufacturers watches (micro brands). Last time I looked they were about $70 USD.

Win, win.


 
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Really? With the Seiko fans here I thought a great condition sumo would stir interest .... Look at that lovely sunburst green dial....no? I'm interested in another green dialed Seiko diver and want one out first.... Desperately trying not to buy a second new watch in a month!


 
Posted : 03/03/2021 9:22 pm
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Only your second?
I've bought 4 since Christmas but then I guess I've sold 2, and another soon so not really that bad numbers wise.

Planning to build up to 10 or so max, though wherever I look a see different ones I like so that may not happen.


 
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I'm not in the market for that Seiko but I've always been a bit on the fence ref green dials until I got my green Pantor a few months ago and decided green looks much, much better in the flesh than it does on screen. So if there's anyone on the fence about the colour I'd take a punt on it.


 
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With the Seiko fans here I thought a great condition sumo would stir interest …. Look at that lovely sunburst green dial….no?

I'm usually an absolute sucker for a green dial but FedEx just turned up today with a 40mm Swordfish in emerald green so I'm less interested than I'd usually be. Jody JOMW just posted a review of a Sumo today, rather a conservative black model though.


 
Posted : 03/03/2021 10:05 pm
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On a similar theme the other day I watched Jody’s Samurai review so have a new appreciation for mine.


 
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🙂 I bought it after i decided I wanted a green dial, didn't have a Seiko, didn't want to pay loads but was content with something quality and the new sumo had been getting lots of reviews as it had been out only 6 months or so. I thought it might be comically large on my slim wrists but it is the most comfortable watch I own despite its 45 mm size. the hugely chamfered case and lug shape make it great. The dial and bezel are a great colour, nice sunburst to the dial, and the colour changes from almost black in some lights to really vibrant in sunlight. The reason I'm thinking of changing is I have seen another watch with a brighter green dial though that just made me go, ' wow!'


 
Posted : 03/03/2021 11:18 pm
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Had some money to spend as a retirement gift from work so just bought one of these. Fancied something with a bit of colour as all my watches have black faces. Really pleased with the weighty feel and look, makes a nice change to have some colour! The brushed finish to the stainless steel is almost titanium in appearance which again is a nice contrast to my other steel bracelet watches.

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