Right I’ve had a missed call and now an email this morning from Mappin and Webb offering me an Air King.
I like the watch but if I was to buy it realistically I’d have to move on my Seamaster and Speedmaster to balance the books and there is my reluctance to immediately call them back, as they are watches I love.
so if any of you are interested in an Air King at retail I’ve got 24h to get back to them.
Kato I have a friend who wants an Air King, I’ll ask and get back to you - which model no?
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Gave myself a talking to though Kryton. Off to pick it up at 5pm
Really have no self control. New bike will have to wait
Gave myself a talking to though Kryton. Off to pick it up at 5pm
Really have no self control. New bike will have to wait
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pics when it arrives….
Chris Ward have re-imagined my C65 Compressor….
It’s a hard no from me!
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these Waterford crystal champagne flutes are well nice
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However I made the massive mistake of trying on a no date Sub. A watch I’d always considered boring, but in the flesh just works. Massively taken by it and went straight on the list I’d sell all my watches for that and maybe my wife too!
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Very nice. I think that’s the problem with the internet, it flattens and takes the life out of watches. The Panerai Luminor I tried on sprang into life in a - obviously - big way. I’m considering a second hand one now.
So, the verdict on the Air King, keep or not?
Buy the Sub
I'd go for the Sub.
Here's the D1 diver I'm so happy with. As stated above, pictures don't compare with real life; it's so vividly legible.
I'm so used to my 50mm Suunto 7, I sometimes think the D1 is a bit small at 44mm! Then I tell myself I'm being silly:
Fun Friday here:
I love numbers/field/fliegers watches and the older Air King was my favourite Rolex but the new Air King = too many #5's and it just doesn't make sense to me to have minutes and the 3,6 & 9 hours.
The 3,6& 9 look really odd compared to the other numerals as well. Buy the sub.
I used to really like the AirKing. Now the dial looks a bit cluttered to me. I’m on ‘the list’ for a 40mm explorer or no date sub, hopefully for my 50th, which gives them 2 years to make one and decide to sell it to me. Doubt I’m that patient though…
. I’m on ‘the list’ for a 40mm explorer
I am too (explorer I)
We can have a race!
Same here. 40mm Explorer 1 as well as the Sub
also 2 years to my 50th
I like the Air King. Granted I think the 369 is an odd look. As for cluttered it’s only got a extra 0 compared to the old one and IMO looks more symmetrical for it
Same here. 40mm Explorer 1 as well as the Sub
To make us all jealous, a friend has got a sea dweller, a date sub and an explorer 2 in the last eighteen months / two years from the one AD. He’d never bought one before the sea dweller but built up a rapport with one guy which seems to be working .
Not tying to be antagonistic but I’d love to understand why you lot are on the lists. Granted YMMV and Rolex reputation, it’s an overly expensive buy from a company that’s kinda pushed its clientele near the edge with its self driven exclusivity, and there’s plenty of videos about with either QC issues, or mechanical gaps in capability not worthy of the equivalent gap in price.
So a genuine question, are they really that good, worth the money and a peak of horologoly for you all, and have i missed something?
I’m on the list because I tried the explorer on, on a whim, and really liked it so decided to buy one - it is being paid for with an inheritance too. I also like nice watches, they’re the only jewellery, bar a wedding ring, i wear.
At retail it won’t be that expensive and i’m not really fussed about concerns around self driven exclusivity, isn’t that more a limited production capacity v global demand rather than rationing supply. Lots of desirable things have wait lists, Mrs kilo waited about a year for a one of her road bikes to turn up from order to completion
I also have other nice watches and i’m not entirely sure it’ll actually replace my current rolex which has strong sentimental attachment for me , so the wait list doesn’t really bother me. My current rolex, i’ve owned for thirty plus years, it’s accurate, reliable, I worked hard to get it and I love wearing it. (I also drive crap cars, usually costing under 3k, have cheap motorbikes (although seem to have four of them now) don’t spend a fortune on clothes, not fussed about luxury holidays etc so watches are a bit of an exception for me.).
Perhaps strangely i’ve never got the love for Omega Seamsters.
To be honest Kryton, I think mine is an itch that needs scratching and a 50th birthday present to myself seems as good a reason as I can think of. People have a bit of history of ‘gifting’ themselves a Rolex for landmark birthdays, qualifications, achievements etc. and as a ‘watch guy’ I feel I should at least try it out.
Will the watch be as good as my Omega’s? I can’t tell you. I hope so. I agree the potential customer service/experience stinks a bit, but for being over priced, I’m not sure they’re that bad at RRP if you look at the competition and they certainly retain the price if you do decide to move them on, should get what you paid back, which is more than can be said of other brands, although a lot of that is linked to the difficulty in obtaining one in the 1st place.
Interesting thanks. Just the sudden flood of mentions intrigued me. This comes right at the moment I’m still thinking about the Luminor having found some second hand ones, saving £1000 over new and wondering if the hit on the savings would ever be refilled if I had to sell it. Then again, new vs a 10+ yo watch for £1k seems worth it yet I don’t know enough about the model numbers / movements to understand why the high ish 2nd hand price.
So I was wondering if you chaps were “investing” to a degree or just had an interest, knew a Rolex “bargain”… or something else.
I’m not investing in watches. I’m buying ‘stuff’’ I like. I get the enjoyment out of them, and if I sell them, I’ll get what I get price wise. I like a bargain and will look for the best option I can find when I’ve decided to buy, so rarely lose much money when I sell.
Yeah thanks. I know watches shouldn’t be an investment in the main. I get a bit too emotionally attached to mine, but that leads me to be thinking about a second hand Panaerai, enjoying it and maybe selling it on later - something I find hard to do and why I’ve now bought the Khaki king twice!
The mention of Magrette watches a couple of pages ago has spurred me into action. I've got an Erebus Ascent on order and as I never wear it anymore I'm putting my Magrette up for sale. In this case, I'm going for N = N.
It's an original Moana Pacific Professional and it's in the classifieds now if anyone's interested..
@Kryton - if you squint it looks like a Panerai... 🙂
I’m on a list for watches I want basically because I refuse to pay over retail, and don’t want to feed the grey market kettle dealers.
if a Sub is 8k but the grey price is 10k, I’m happy to wait..
Christopher Ward just confirmed the repair on my c60 will be covered under warranty. Should be back with me in… 10 WEEKS?!
In better news, Mrs BS just treated herself for getting a promotion. From watch agnostic to this. My work here is done.
I like that lots.
Love Farer. Good work!
Mrs Kato went from not understanding watches to buying a mother of pearl Carerra for herself. I was very proud haha
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Not tying to be antagonistic but I’d love to understand why you lot are on the lists. Granted YMMV and Rolex reputation, it’s an overly expensive buy from a company that’s kinda pushed its clientele near the edge with its self driven exclusivity, and there’s plenty of videos about with either QC issues, or mechanical gaps in capability not worthy of the equivalent gap in price.
So a genuine question, are they really that good, worth the money and a peak of horologoly for you all, and have i missed something?
There's a thread on TRF about 32xx movement issues, 171 pages long and counting...
Mrs Kato went from not understanding watches to buying a mother of pearl Carerra for herself. I was very proud haha
Excellent! Mrs Kilo is a JLC fan, this is her good reverso
ffs, obviously it’s too much too expect to be able to post an image
Crikey, rather sooner than I expected I’ve had a call from an AD and have an appointment on Tuesday. My brain is a whirlwind, Can I walk out without it? Does this mean culling my collection? If I keep them will I ever wear them again? Is it a step too far? Does it take the shine off the Seamaster? You only live once..? If I had to sell it, I wouldn’t lose on a second hand Luminor?
Not good to have the weekend to think on it for an overthinker… ?
JFDI...
@Kryton57 I note there is an article on Forbes today about the high end secondhand watch market starting to falter, and suppliers of new watches becoming more plentiful relative to supply.
Buy it if it will make you happy.
Buy it if it will make you happy
Can't fault the sentiment but it rather glosses over the difficult question. How do you really know if it'll make you happy until you've actually bought it?
Dangerous thread this.. I've got an old SKX on today, but it's a Philippines market one.. It's part of my modest collection of mostly Seiko watches, some Chinese stuff, some Swiss stuff, and some microbrands that's about 55 strong now.
55! And I’m wobbling over 10….
Useful article thanks IGM, looks as thought the fall will continue to mid ‘25. I’m not buying for investment, but becuase I’ve got a unique chance to enjoy a Panerai for a bit, even if later it has to go. I think with a bit of negotiation it’ll be just sub £4k, I’d get my money back also bearing in mind it’s a discontinued model PAM0104.
Re enjoyment, I’m not thinking about it too much, but when I tried a new one on I got quite an emotional reaction to it, the same way as I did with the SMP. At the same time I’m watching <£1000 watch reviews of Citizens, Chris Wards, new Samurai (yuck), and as nice as they are I can’t bring myself to buy one with the current collection in mind. I tried the new Enamel AT and… nothing.
mostly Seiko watches, some Chinese stuff, some Swiss stuff, and some microbrands that’s about 55 strong now.
Scrub the Swiss and add in a half dozen or so Casio and that's pretty much the make up of my collection. I've only about half your number though!
I'm currently wearing a frankly ludicrous Khuraburi Ti on a canvas strap and I'm loving it.
