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I get what your saying I was the same. Always look at the watch opened up to see the movement with a clear serial number.

There are a few on eBay I trust and always uk based. A good seller will give the serial number quickly

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Omega-Seamaster-1961-REF-14759-SC-61-Cal-600-Exceptional-Piece/264334595524?hash=item3d8b91d5c4%3Ag%3AAqAAAOSw1%7Edc4c9K&LH_Auction=1


 
Posted : 25/05/2019 11:15 pm
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LTL;FTC: how easy is it to resize a seiko watch bracelet? I’ve watched (sorry) a couple of YouTube videos and it looks a bit fiddly and kinda easy to slip and take a gouge out... the ‘specialist’ tools on Amazon all look a bit crap.

However, I have picked up a bergeon spring bar tool... 🤪

Or should I just go get it done properly at a jewellers?


 
Posted : 09/06/2019 9:18 pm
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@Metalheart - do the case lugs have little holes on the outside! Those make the job very easy, just poke a pin into the hole and push the spring bar out, otherwise the bergeon tool should work perfectly.
There isn’t much that can go wrong, really, just take your time and be methodical.
Ive had the back off my Seiko SPORK and adjusted the time, which really does require a steady hand, but sorting a bracelet is pretty easy.


 
Posted : 09/06/2019 9:40 pm
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Has anyone seen the 'Just One More Watch' videos on YouTube? Jody is really informative and knows his stuff. The level of production is really good. I like that he gives as much consideration and objectivity to a £20 Aliexpress special as a £1000 Oris.


 
Posted : 09/06/2019 9:59 pm
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Has anyone seen the ‘Just One More Watch’ videos on YouTube? Jody is really informative and knows his stuff. The level of production is really good. I like that he gives as much consideration and objectivity to a £20 Aliexpress special as a £1000 Oris.

Yeah, his videos are always worth a watch.

Actually makes better reading than the usual reviews of Tudors/Rolexes etc., at least theres something slightly different to talk about.


 
Posted : 09/06/2019 10:10 pm
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This is an interesting read:
https://gizmodo.com/modern-manufacturing-has-made-it-nearly-impossible-to-s-1835267932


 
Posted : 09/06/2019 11:08 pm
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Yeah been watching JOMW for a while. I do like when he throws up some interesting GearBest options and nice to see alternatives to Subby's. Man loves a bit of lume eh?


 
Posted : 10/06/2019 4:21 am
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Man loves a bit of lume eh?

He certainly does.
"Hello, and welcome to just one more watch!"


 
Posted : 10/06/2019 9:42 am
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So this happened at the weekend:

I was aiming to try get one around Oct/Nov time to celebrate my 30th - but would have liked to have tried one on before then as I've never actually held an Explorer. We checked about 7 ADs across Japan a few weeks ago while on holiday, been through every AD on New Bond St, Regent St before that, etc etc... no luck

Anyway - we were in Harrods to buy for my Mrs birthday. I popped to the Rolex AD and they had one in stock. I tried it on but decided to ultimately pass as it was a few months earlier than I was planning on buying.

We then popped to Selfridges later on - I jokingly said "Let's check Rolex here - if they have one in stock here, then it's clearly a sign and I should buy it."

Well...


 
Posted : 10/06/2019 11:18 am
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That is lovely Plyphon.

They look so much better sans date and that awful convex lens.

Enjoy.


 
Posted : 10/06/2019 1:29 pm
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Thats nice Plython!

So, here's a question thats being thrashed round a circle of friends.  If you're going on a "posh" holiday and assuming you only want to take one good looking watch, which watch do you take?  There may be a few cocktail parties (nice watch), and a few trips around the destination (tool watch) but also it needs to go in an out of the pool and be "casual but look good".

Friend that asking was looking at a £260 Tissot with Blue face and brown leather, until it was pointed out that the leather vs pool wouldn't be great, now he's stumped.  This one:

Image result for tissot watch blue face

And then after the leather/pool conversation, this:

Hugo Boss 1513478 Men's Chronograph Silver Quartz Watch

Hugo Boss!

Any other recommendations around the £250 mark?  Surely there's something better...


 
Posted : 10/06/2019 5:48 pm
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£250 for a watch on a posh holiday which can go in the pool? I wouldn’t go in the pool with one of those - no screw down pushers. Also ‘BOSS’ does not really fit with ‘posh holiday’ from what I can see. How about an Apple Watch? I can’t think of a conventional watch which would work at that price point.


 
Posted : 10/06/2019 6:20 pm
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Kryton, I think my answer would be an Orient Mako or even a Seiko SKX on a Nato strap, but then swap to a leather strap for the evening.
Solid enough for the pool and looks good on a leather trap for the evening.
Something like this:


 
Posted : 10/06/2019 6:37 pm
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Interesting becuase I use my SNDA57 for everything else and (recently) pack my Eco Drive (AT4008-51E) for the glitterati requirements.  I can't stand the thought that the Tag wedding present or the more recent Prospex gets lost with a suitcase or is rattling around in hand luggage.

Personally I don't think there's too many proper horologists at a cocktail party, just the materialists looking for the words "Rolex" or "Omega"...

But you made me look at the Orients.   I agree, a Mako 2 in Pepsi is nice:

Orient Mako II SAA02009D3 Automatic 200M Japan Made Men's Watch

Or a Mako 3 in this colour looks OK:

Orient Mako III RA-AA0005B19B Automatic 200M Men's Watch


 
Posted : 10/06/2019 8:44 pm
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I ordered 3 watches on Saturday. 2 vintage Russians from Ebay and a so called Chinese dollar dazzler from Aliexpress.

One Russian is an 80's digital Elektronika 52.

Second Russian is a 70's or 80's Raketa.

The Chinese watch is a black dialed dressy Pagani Design chronometer as revised by JOMW.


 
Posted : 10/06/2019 9:58 pm
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Go up a bit from £250 and get an Everest
https://www.timefactors.com/prs25new.htm

Do people really go to cocktail parties on holiday and wtf is a posh holiday?


 
Posted : 10/06/2019 9:59 pm
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plyphon, nice. very nice. i wonder if they will ever do a white dial exp 1, that would be something.


 
Posted : 11/06/2019 12:26 am
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He decided on the Hugo Boss, oh well.  Creation watches have those Orients for £109 btw.


 
Posted : 11/06/2019 6:45 am
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plyphon, nice. very nice. i wonder if they will ever do a white dial exp 1, that would be something.

There is a 'baselworld rumor' type photoshop photo of a white dial explorer out there somewhere and it does look fantastic indeed.

I'm strictly black dial watches only, though!!


 
Posted : 11/06/2019 10:17 am
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Creation watches have those Orients for £109 btw.

I treated myself a while ago. Insta link as I have no idea how to get the pic to show.


 
Posted : 11/06/2019 10:24 am
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Bracelet re-sized (as advised it was pretty easy. Might need a fettle of the micro adjust but I'll try and see first).

Bought off the web from Lowry Jewellers at 30% off!

I ordered the strap version first which turned up with some minor cosmetic damage which had occured in transit. When I spotted it I checked the website to find they had the bracelet version cheaper than I'd paid for the strap version. A couple of (very polite) emails and they sent me a pre-paid return thingy and yesterday the replacement turned up (and the difference refunded!). Really impressed with their service (and price).


 
Posted : 11/06/2019 1:58 pm
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Nice! Is it gold or is that just the light?


 
Posted : 11/06/2019 2:09 pm
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It's just the standard finish.

I'd just finished the Loch Ness 360 so the gold hue is just probably reflections off my red face... 😬


 
Posted : 11/06/2019 3:18 pm
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If you’re going on a “posh” holiday and assuming you only want to take one good looking watch, which watch do you take? There may be a few cocktail parties (nice watch), and a few trips around the destination (tool watch) but also it needs to go in an out of the pool and be “casual but look good”.

Good thing I never go on ‘posh’ holidays, or get invited to any cocktail parties that might occur, ‘cos I’d probably only take one watch, it would likely be the one that’s going to draw the least attention from anyone who might like to relieve me of it, and the one that’s least likely to get damaged in any way, so probably my £70 Casio with NATO strap adaptors, or possibly my Yokobies-mod Seiko 5 with Zulu strap, which is what I’m wearing right now

Not posh, but it fulfils the primary function of a watch - to tell the time in a clear and concise fashion. I try to avoid complications...


 
Posted : 13/06/2019 12:26 am
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Keep getting drawn to this, under £200 and looks good to me. A leather strap would look even better too.


 
Posted : 13/06/2019 9:29 am
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I try to avoid complications

Seems pretty complicated way of showing the date in that picture;)


 
Posted : 13/06/2019 9:37 am
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Sorry for possible hijack, but I thought it may interest a fair few on this thread.

I've bought a few Seiko automatics over the last 18 months, including Sarb 017, 033, and several Samurai's that I've been wearing for a over a year now. The 6R15 equipped watches seemed quite accurate at first but has dropped after a few months wearing in, looking at 30 seconds gain or loss over 3 days now. Conversely the 4R35 equipped Seiko's were quite inaccurate to start with, but with some wrist-time they've all become really accurate, to the point where they're two or three seconds out after 48 hours, whether on wrist or not. I have two Japan made and one Korean Samurai, and the K is the most accurate. Bang-on to the second after 4 days of wearing in the day and on the side at night.

Now, I know it's likely all of them are within spec, and I understand that this inaccuracy and inconsistency is the nature of autos, but I've looked at 'regulating', as I find accurate watches somehow satisfying.

You can pick up a 'value' timegrapher for around a ton and the mechanics of actually doing it don't bother me. But, I wondered if there are watch shops/Jewelers/watchmakers that offer this service for not stupid money. (ie £50 -100)?

I've had a bit of a look round on Google and nothing pops up, wither local or national.

Any of you guys any experience of such things?

Thanks for reading

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Posted : 13/06/2019 8:04 pm
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If anyone's interested in Hamiltons, Creation Watches seem to be offering a load at half price or thereabouts, plus a Fathers day 10% discount until Sunday night.

A few Seiko's on there also.


 
Posted : 13/06/2019 8:16 pm
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You can pick up a ‘value’ timegrapher for around a ton and the mechanics of actually doing it don’t bother me. But, I wondered if there are watch shops/Jewelers/watchmakers that offer this service for not stupid money. (ie £50 -100)?

I've got the paid for version of the 'clock tuner' app (android) I think it was only a couple of quid, but it's been more than adequate for a bit of DIY regulation, just pop the watch on the mic' and leave it for a bit to see what the deviation is (BPH/BPM/Hz).

Screen grab:

Just stuck an old Orient on it which appears to be 17s a day slow at present...


 
Posted : 13/06/2019 9:10 pm
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Topper, you might be better asking that question at LFGSS watches and horologybthread,mute a few knowledgeable cyclists there
https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/143800/


 
Posted : 13/06/2019 9:13 pm
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you don't need a timegrapher to regulate, just patience. a shop will do it for a tenner.

its not unusual for a a new watch to be fast and to slow as the spring slackens slightly.


 
Posted : 13/06/2019 9:14 pm
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oh and there's a phone timegrapher app


 
Posted : 13/06/2019 9:15 pm
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I have a SARB017 and got it serviced and regulated at Debenhams in the autumn for £70. Their watch services are supposed to be good.


 
Posted : 13/06/2019 11:31 pm
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Seems pretty complicated way of showing the date in that picture;)

Not if you look at the time...
Regarding regulating a mechanical auto, I’ve done it with my SPORK, which is the 4R15 calibre (it was the first diver to use that movement). I just took the back off, and nudged the adjuster with a pin a very, very tiny amount. It had been losing something like 30 seconds a week, my goldsmith mate had a go, and made it worse, but the other way, so he told me to get a case-opening tool and have a go. First go was a bit of an improvement, but my second go had it losing something like five seconds a month! IIRC, during the period of the clocks changing, it lost thirty seconds.
That was five or six years ago, and it’s not quite as accurate now, because I don’t wear it all the time, but it’s still something around thirty seconds a month, which I think is acceptable.
It’s certainly a lot more accurate than my Casio G-Shock!


 
Posted : 14/06/2019 12:18 am
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Bang-on to the second after 4 days of wearing in the day and on the side at night.

Not at all uncommon. You could try different positions overnight for your other watches see if one is an improvement over the others.

Get yourself a case opening tool, adjust watch, wear it, see how it goes, repeat. When you are happy get the seals redone (and tell them not to regulate it!) I've never found any watch regulated off wrist was all that good on wrist, not even certified chronometers.

I will warm you though, the Seiko adjuster is simple but finicky as all get out. You think you haven't really moved it but the watch runs 2 minutes fast. Takes patience but you'll get there.


 
Posted : 14/06/2019 3:41 am
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Does anyone know where I can find a Seiko Pepsi SKZ009 with Jubilee strap BUT the newer calibre (MH35?) that has the hack?

Seems rare as hens teeth...


 
Posted : 14/06/2019 8:58 am
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Thanks for all the very helpful replies folks. I've got all the tools so may have a go with the app. Cheers!


 
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Been enjoying this thread, so thought I'd post a pic of my Omega. Bought new fifteen years ago, I used to wear it every day, but tend to wear my Suunto these days. Nice to wear at weekends though. I set an alarm for 10:10 this morning to take a picture at the obligatory watch photographing time:


 
Posted : 16/06/2019 2:11 pm
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That is bloody lovely CB, very nice watch.


 
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I agree! Smart!


 
Posted : 16/06/2019 2:36 pm
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That’s very nice


 
Posted : 16/06/2019 2:44 pm
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Cheers folks. I used to subscribe to Time magazine, and from the hundreds of watch adverts I must have browsed through (lots of Breitling, Patek Phillipe, Rolex ect.), I fell in love with this one, so saved for ages until it was finally mine!


 
Posted : 16/06/2019 3:07 pm
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Thats a lovely looking watch with a great little back story to it also.


 
Posted : 16/06/2019 9:08 pm
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I will warm you though, the Seiko adjuster is simple but finicky as all get out. You think you haven’t really moved it but the watch runs 2 minutes fast. Takes patience but you’ll get there.

Ain’t that the truth! The amounts required are fractions of a millimetre.


 
Posted : 16/06/2019 11:05 pm
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Hello all - I have a question about my Seiko5 that I've had since December (Japanese movement 23jewel). The seconds are totally accurate but permanently 30s out, and I can't do that thing where you apply pressure to hold it. the obvious thing to do is leave it off for a few days and then restart it but would that make it less accurate ?

the minute hand loses a minute or so every month but I'm not bothered about this too much (or should I? should it lose that much ?) but it's interesting that the second hand is bob on but the minutes not


 
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