A screen shot from the Watchgecko review, the new Chris Ward 12X:

https://www.christopherward.com/twelve-x-landing-page.html
Not sure about that to be honest. The thing I liked about the twelves was the dials. £4k too, oof that's a hefty jump
That's an absolute horror of a thing.
Or to put it more accurately, it's not really to my personal taste. These things are subjective after all!
I actually quite like it, but I’m never going to be paying 4 grand for a CW.
Yeah, it's definitely from the more is more school of design, which ain't my bag.
In a slight question resurrection, any recommendations for replacement leather straps for a dress watch?
No. Its like a cheap looking take on an (ugly) Zenith defy.
I don't mind cw homaging/ taking inspiration from others designs. I like the numerous c60 that look very seamaster. I don't like the defy and like that cw even less.
If you like it, they will be available for around £2k used, maybe less, worlds would be my guess.
https://images.app.goo.gl/8kiMeiSUcqsD6Vfd7
The cw is cheap by comparison....but tbf the wireless quality in the zenith would be several levels above even though cw are very very good these days.
So I spent the change from a recent bathroom renovation on the appropriate CW bracelet for the C65. Thoughts? I like it, but thing the mix of radial brushing on the watch and linear on the bracelet can look at odds in the wrong light:

I redid the lume on the black G-Shock, with some white, and instead of using the little applicator spatula thing, I very carefully painted the indices with a very fine brush. Much better results, it’s smoother, and being white matches the hands better. Still glows green, but it’s brighter and more even glow.


Thoughts?
i thinks it’s a beauty and it looks good whether it’s on a strap or a bracelet.
i personally prefer the bracelet but YMMV :o)
I'm rather taken with the new Bulova Surveyor:
Happy NWD to me. As I said somewhere up there ^, I was on the lookout for a watch for my 50th, ideally from 1974. Well, a bit of eBay patience found this NOS beauty, which has the kind of unusualness and retro vibe that I love.

Any reason not to go for this reduced Seiko?
https://www.hillierjewellers.co.uk/mens-black-series-tortoise-limited-edition-automatic-watch-p15947
If you like it and can afford it, treat yourself.
Seiko have been making concerted efforts to move their prices up so the listing at £510 is very optimistic IMO. It's not really my cup of tea but it looks like reasonable value at the reduced price so if you like it crack on!
I had a sudden inspiration. Falling out of love for the Citizen, I thought I’d try a leather strap. So, I’ve only got a 20mm so it was for looks only, so this pic is representative with a Barton silicone strap:

I’ve realised the OEM Ti bracelet dullness detracted massively from the watch itself. black leather turned it into a really nice and better GADA “smart casual” look.
I’ve order a 22mm QR strap (will work on other watches too) for day wear and can put this Barton QR in a bag for holiday pool time.
I’ve order a 22mm QR strap (will work on other watches too) for day wear and can put this Barton QR in a bag for holiday pool time.
The watch is a touch big for my taste but it looks good on the Barton, I'm not sure I'd bother with the leather unless for comfort reasons. Though if you've not got a 22mm black leather it'd be handy to have I suppose.
It must be nice and light off the bracelet, even if it was Ti.
Its a fair point, but the leather is a better look for my line of work 😉
I weighed it at 64g on the kitchen scales. I was kind of inspired by Jody's review of the Tuyosa Small Seconds this morning, I desperately wanted to buy one, knew I couldn't/shouldnt and picked up this in empathy and 20 mins later voila, I have a new look.
Thats bloody lovely! You may want to loosen the strap?
It's a fair point, but the leather is a better look for my line of work
True enough, it's definitely a smarter look for those customer facing occasions!
That Longines is the epitome of understated class, I love it.
What’s peoples view on taking expensive watches on Hols? About to go on a 5 day lads trip to a Southern Spain beach holiday (I say “lads “ but I’m the youngest at 52 so it won’t exactly be raucous), I’ve kinda settled on wearing the Arnie, but really wanted to take the SMP.
Im going through a “why buy nice watches if you can’t wear them” thought process. 🤷♂️
Take your every day watch then you don't need to worry if it gets scratched
It’s entirely up to you, if you’re not comfortable taking your good watch then leave it at home.
I don’t worry about it personally. No concerns about them getting scratched etc. I tend to take at least two watches on holiday. Dressy watch for dinner (Rolex / Panerai) and my everyday watch for the daytime (Tudor bb or Sinn).
What are you actually worried about @Kryton57 - Getting it stolen? damaged? lost?
From my personal opinion (and youve kinda said yourself) - the watch is for wearing - and ive worn my nice watches while working/living/holidaying in other countries before (some good, some not so good) and never experienced any issues with damage or theft.
I wear mine on Nato straps, and maybe takes attention away from them.
However the key is to be sensible out and about. You'll be in a group, and unlikely to be raucous too with the self professed group age.
Only drugs youll be looking for is Voltarol by the sounds of it.....
I’d wear my good watch in Southern Spain much as I would in London - so if I was going to end up completely smashed on a nightbus I wouldn’t but for sensible drinking I would.
Generally if I’m going to be ok wearing it once or twice on a trip and have somewhere to store it I take a good watch. I think the last time I didn’t was biking in Canada when there was a lot of leaving kit in cars.
I usually take a beater as well as per above.
I'm wearing my BB58 on holiday in the Canaries right now. Leaving it on my wrist whilst out on the bike and biggest worry is scratching it if I fall off. It's a summertime watch so it'd be daft not to wear it.
What are you actually worried about @Kryton57 – Getting it stolen? damaged? lost?
After some thought yes, constantly throughout the trip therefore putting a dampener on it. Hence, the Arnie on a stealth NATO is what I shall take.
This has rekindled bad memories!
In August 1992 I bought an Omega Constellation from WoS in Manchester. I was soooooo chuffed with it. Two weeks later I went to Provence with a mate for a road trip.
And I wore the new watch. And I scuffed the case on a waterslide...take the Arnie!
The Arnie is fine. Not enough watch to get mugged for, worry about a scratch at the beach or losing if the holiday place gets robbed, yet enough watch to be robust and give pleasure to the wearer.
I reckon you're concerned because you don't know the location. Just as you wouldn't wear your smp to a dodgy bit of London you are Vincent's m concerned as you don't know the dodgy bits of your holiday location. No shame in taking the Arnie into the unknown.
No shame in taking the Arnie into the unknown.
Surely you need an Explorer for the unknown?
It’s quiet in this topic lately….so some pics….Today is Panerai day, GMT, about 20 years old so almost a vintage watch….on black leather also have the standard rubber that I may swap to. It is quite chunky and a nice heft to it.


@w00dster: that's gorgeous.
That’s lovely Woodster and by coincidence I’m sitting across from a mate of mine in Spain, he’s wearing exactly the same watch.
Even better IRL, has a certain “shine” to it.
I give you a £600 Timex
I saw that yesterday and actually really like it, just not that bothered about paying the James Brand tax
I give you a £600 Timex
I like that too. And if it's not worth £600 because it's Timex, that surely proves that people are mainly paying (or not) for the name on watch though, right?
I don’t think it’s just about paying for the name, there is no doubt the luxury name tax. But there is genuine craftsmanship gone into making of expensive watches. I’m not going to go into a huge lecture here, but for me personally I’ll only wear certain brands and only those watches that I find interesting.
I do get the point you’re making though. Again for me personally I’d have no issue with buying a Timex for £600 if it was interesting enough. But £600 would put it up against other watches that at least for me would be my preference.
I have a fairly large collection of watches, I am just as happy with a really nice £150 watch as I am with my much more expensive watches.
But there is genuine craftsmanship gone into making of expensive watches
Well that's definitely what their brand marketing is built on.
But when you're making tens of thousands of watches (a quick Google finds that Panerai make 26000 watches every year), I think the line between craftsmanship and mass production has been pretty much crossed.



