[Closed] Wales! Damn this place!

perditus - Member

Do you just shout loudly and slowly and point a lot?

Only when in Rome.

Only if you're an ignorant asshat.

Is that the Welsh for donkey jacket?

So- you didn't like hearing Welsh people speaking welsh. Simple, stay away.

FWIW I have lived and worked in Carmarthenshire for the last three and a half decades. I have never felt threatened by the locals speaking the language. I speak a bit but not much and I certainly couldn't have a conversation in welsh.

I must admit to finding the attitude shown by some here to be arrogant and bigoted. If you visit a different country surely you expect that the locals might speak a different language? And are you so vain that you think that people are always talking about you? And even if they are, big deal- does it really matter that much? Drink your pint, pay up and leave. You can take your smugness with you, knowing that you are better than them. They will be happy to have got shot of those bloody saes and will continue to bemoan their lot. 😉

@Idle Jon- come and join us for a ride, we visit some very choice establishments. Resolfen rocks!

Ambrose, in Garnant.

PS, I'm an incomer (1985), with a varied heritage. I'd be proud to be considered Welsh.

IdleJon - Member

Are you suggesting that the average valley town is demographically similar to the average Surrey town that the abused English MTBer is from?

No - just trying to highlight your link between working class & being ‘quite rough’ ... going off topic some I know; but I find working class areas of the valleys far more open, welcoming and friendlier than more affluent parts.

Then again - I’d probably be described as valleys, rough working class anyways

Mooman, I know working class doesn't always equal rough. I grew up in a 'rougher' part of Swansea. It wasn't really, but to outsiders that's how it looked. (And still does.) I now live just below Townhill - salt of the earth! 😆

Ambrose - thanks for the offer. 😀 You should have joined us for the Pigs Xmas eve ride on Gower. I finished covered in mud and soaked through. Most of the others went to the pub. I'm sure they would have flooded the place and covered the regulars in crap just by walking through the door. (And were mainly English...)

But that's different from the story that's being claimed here ie that a pub full of people will switch to speaking Welsh after an English speaker walks in, as a show of hostility.

It's absurd. It's an apocryphal tale.

What may have happened is that you've been in a Welsh speaking area and an environment where you feel uncomfortable; where you felt it would have been polite if people had switched to English.

I reckon what happens is a welsh speaker is in the pub speaking english to people who are english speaking but welsh. More people come in who speak welsh so people switch.

I heard 2 blokes switch from speaking English to speaking Welsh.

They might've been switching all evening long and you wouldn't have known.

They might've been switching all evening long and you wouldn't have known.

I've been thinking about this - Welsh is one of the few languages where speakers swap randomly into English part-way through a sentence and then swap back. (English speakers unwittingly use lots of foreign words, of course but it's not as obvious as when someone is speaking a 'foreign' language.)

Sitting in Farmers arms again, there's lovely. Liverpool v Swansea soon. Just watched Leeds game as a warm up.

If it goes to form you might want to tone down that scouse accent

Lost my smiley wink off the end!!!

I heard 2 blokes switch from speaking English to speaking Welsh.

Having lived in Wales all my life I was convinced that a pubfull of people switching from English to Welsh on arrival of strangers was bollocks, but here’s video evidence:

By the way, it is nonsense. I don’t belive it ever happened.