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It's not really 'having £30k to spend on a car' though is it, it's the £300 plus a month that you pay to lease them. Which seems pretty reasonable for that kind of performance.
As for filthy performance estates, they clean up fine:
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=311796
It's a car for gods sake, whether it cost £8k or £80k just use it, it'll clean up no problem.
I like the Golf R but if this car is mid £40's that's the same money as a new Porsche Macan (assuming you don't mond waiting 1-2 years to get one)
like the Golf R but if this car is mid £40's that's the same money as a new Porsche Macan (assuming you don't mond waiting 1-2 years to get one)
Who said mid 40s? It is likely to be a smidge over £30,000 based on current R prices, and since they are well specced, personally I wouldn't add anything to it. I reckon it will probably handle better and be faster than a £40k Macan too.
I should like this on paper (drive a 5 door GTI which is just big enough for holidays with child in tow) but the looks are a bit meh for my taste. Having seen this touted last year, I briefly thought about it, but I'm glad we didn't bother waiting.
@pixel - I saw mid 40's quoted on the thread. I googled VW site and yes low/mid 30's sees more likely.
FWIW I'd pay a £10k premium for the Porsche over VW, I'd pay the extra for the Audi too.
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I like the golf R, but that looks mince. Kinda like a Saab 9-3 estate with a small nose
Hmmmm, He's got a point.
It's not exactly a looker, is it?
Focus ST Estate for me (if I was looking for this kind of thing).
All this talk about overtaking multiple cars quickly though - sounds like the torque of a chunky diesel would be ideal for that....? 😉
I find paying attention and being in the right gear is even better 😉
If I could afford a new Golf R, I wouldn't buy a new Golf R.
I would however, love to buy a Mk2 Golf 16v...
Golfs are shite.
There I've said it. For the same money there are so many better cars and as for the dealers.......
Might be a good s/h buy in a few years time. Cupra estate is on its way too which will be even better value and does away with the pointless quad exhausts
I still marvel at these threads on bike sites and will add my usual contribution:
Fit all cars with a limiter set to the national speed limit and track every car the way some young drivers have their cars tracked to reduce the insurance premium. A black box in every car too obviously.
Edukator - [b]Troll [/b]
I still marvel at these threads on bike sites and will add my usual contribution:Fit all cars with a limiter set to the national speed limit and track every car the way some young drivers have their cars tracked to reduce the insurance premium. A black box in every car too obviously.
Lives up to forum name....
Why spend 30k when this starts at 23k!?...
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Edukator - Troll
I still marvel at these threads on bike sites and will add my usual contribution:Fit all cars with a limiter set to the national speed limit and track every car the way some young drivers have their cars tracked to reduce the insurance premium. A black box in every car too obviously.
was just about to bite there too... now, wouldn't i have looked silly 😀
the-muffin-man - if only someone had mentioned that 7hrs ago!! 😀
On the matter of cost, someone will be along in a minute to mention that in 3yrs time, the Focus will be worth 49p and a bag of haribo, while the Golf will still be worth £30k.
the-muffin-man - if only someone had mentioned that 7hrs ago!!
Oops - I only look at pictures - in true STW style I can't be bothered to read the whole thread!
fast - yes
practical - reasonably, nothing special
fun - about as fun as a dull Euro box could be with a 4 pot turbo
So no, I'm not that impressed overall. I could imagine running one, but it's a bit overkill for a small family wagon. I tend to keep family estates and sportscars as separate entities, but if I was forced to have just one car, it would need to be bigger than this.
Let's face it. People want fast cars because driving fast is fun. End of. Driving fast is also more dangerous. And fast cars use more fuel. So people ignore the downsides or make excuses for them. Nothing more to say.
I resemble that remark.
My car has more cylinders than tailpipes, does that mean it's OK by STW standards?
Oh and I'm not much of a fan of Golfs either.
Fit all cars with a limiter set to the national speed limit and track every car the way some young drivers have their cars tracked to reduce the insurance premium. A black box in every car too obviously.
Unlikely to have much effect though is it? Afterall if all you do is limit the speed to 70 mph, you will still be able to do excessive speed in towns and cities.
I think the tracker informing your insurance company how you drive and the knowledge that the black box data would be available to the police in the case of a collision would be enough to calm down a lot of people. A car incapable of doing more than 70mph is useless as a get-away vehicle, go-fast drug-running vehicle or even for overtaking cars already doing 60mph on B roads.
Edit: being a passenger with my brother-in-law in his own car or his son's with the insurance tracker is a totally different experience.
Not my cup of tea, I'd rather have a bmw 335i xdrive touring. Rather still have the rwd version so I could pull some good skids
There are some pretty cheap contract hire deals around on the hatch version - due to the residuals. In time no doubt with this version too
I've dithered too long and seem to have missed them.
What I really want is an estate. In which case, it's really unlikely to be a Golf (in R form or otherwise). So a silly Audi seems like the obvious STW Approved(tm) option (am staring enviously at s/h Audi S6s, which have "won't anyone think of the children" written all over them....).
am staring enviously at s/h Audi S6s, which have "won't anyone think of the children" written all over them
That would be funny if it weren't for the actual children actually dying...
"won't anyone think of the [s]children[/s] driving license"
FTFY
So a silly Audi seems like the obvious STW Approved(tm) option (am staring enviously at s/h Audi S6s, which have "won't anyone think of the children" written all over them....).
Mrs PF works for Audi. I've been worryingly close on a number of occasions to picking up an S4 Avant but can't work out what it is I don't like about it. Was fast mind you.
peterfileMrs PF works for Audi. I've been worryingly close on a number of occasions to picking up an S4 Avant but can't work out what it is I don't like about it. Was fast mind you.
Must be all the children who spontaneously drop dead when you purchase one. But for me I'd imagine it'd be the fact it's not an RS6.
Looks rubbish, expensive for what it is, not that practical...
Now if I needed a fast 4WD estate car(doesnt everyone?) I'd be on the look out for a nice tidy one of these:
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And save myself anywhere between £10 & 15k on the Golf,plus its so much betterer looking.
unovolo
Now if I needed a fast 4WD estate car(doesnt everyone?) I'd be on the look out for a nice tidy one of these:And save myself anywhere between £10 & 15k on the Golf,plus its so much betterer looking.
It would be interesting to see how that played out over 5 years or so of daily driving. The Golf will most likely lose a lot of it's value. Looked after, the Audi will probably go up in value. I think it would be luck of the draw, as to how much money you'd need to spend on the Audi though.
Or how about one of these:
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4WD (proper 50/50 quattro, not haldex), 380hp standard, 4-500hp with simple remap and a few minor mods and more modern than the RS2. Half the price of that £30k Golf and no longer depreciating.
Just the perfect car for overtaking (rapidly and all in one go) a 20mph procession made up of a tractor, a couple of articulated lorries, a hesitant Molgrips, plus around 8-10 other cars, in wet, greasy, sleeting conditions, whilst loaded up with a large wardrobe and couple of barking Labradors in the back.
a large wardrobe
Definitely a troll
Having had owned the 1st 4WD Golf, I can say they are a lot of fun and AWD is very useful in the wet
A Golf Country or a G60?
Audi RS3 sport back. Get the 2.5L rather than the 2l in the Golf R
RS2 too many special parts to want to put 20k a year on.
RS4 nice, but not big enough for a proper estate (quite so, legend). And I prefer the slightly more, but still licence-shredding, Q car appeal of the S6.
Q car appeal of the S6
Might as well do it properly...
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Mboy > interiors clean up fine. The alternative is driving a miserable diesel all the time while your "fun" car languishes in the garage for the odd occasion when you fancy driving it but don't need to carry people or things.
My "fun car" has 2 wheels and pedals I'm afraid! It used to have 2 wheels and a V-Twin engine, but these days there's too many fun police out there!
If my fun car did actually have 4 wheels and an engine, it would probably only be something like a MK1 MX5 anyway, as that's pretty much as good as you can sensibly exploit on the British roads these days sadly! The days of being able to enjoy absurdly quick cars on the open roads are gone, and Track Days though fun just aren't a real proposition to most people because of time and cost implications. To a large extent bikes are the answer! 🙂
"Fun" comes in all shapes and sizes... For me I'd rather spend £300 on fuel to Scotland and back in my Diesel Passat and 3 night's B&B so I could get a long weekend's riding in, than on fuel and entry fees to a trackday in something distinctly faster.
Probably of no relevance whatsoever but I've got an audi sq5. 4wd twin turbo 3.0 diesel, 330bhp. It's as fast as all those petrol cars listed above and still does 40mpg or More.
I can understand people buying petrol cars but for me these new diesels are the best of everything.
I've got an audi sq5. 4wd twin turbo 3.0 diesel, 330bhp. It's as fast as all those petrol cars listed above and still does 40mpg or More
Yes but at £45k (before you add any extras) you could buy 3 mint condition RS2's or B5 RS4's, which are quicker, handle better, are uber cool, and don't make you look like a footballers wife. Granted though 40mpg + is very good, but paying £45k (or whatever the lease sets you back) just for a 'fashion statement' 4x4 that does an extra 15mpg, has a horrendous depreciation problem and gets a poor Autocar review seems like a fools errand to me. Still, your money! Is it white by any chance?
Thegreatape - very nice.
My father had two ur Quattros in the 80s. Nothing Q about them. But, when my father needed the money and sold the second of them back to the "dealer" (Group B heroes Dave Sutton Motorsport in Daventry) he came away with a bland 2.2 litre Audi 100. Looked plain but went like shit off a stick. They never would own up to what they'd done to it....
Yes but at £45k (before you add any extras) you could buy 3 mint condition RS2's or B5 RS4's, which are uber cool
Come on, no one buys an Audi in an attempt to be cool! Surely one of the least "cool" cars on the road.
Is everyone on this forum a pretentious bore? I would have one, and I would spank the crap out of it. Believe it or not, I would do this on public roads. This thread and several others that have brought about the term "pressing on" come on chaps. Sod the naysayers you want a quick car, you are going to rag the nuts off it, and on public roads, get one ordered and ignore the morons on here, that believe doing 31mph will kill all the baby seals.
Yes but at £45k (before you add any extras) you could buy 3 mint condition RS2's or B5 RS4's, which are quicker, handle better, are uber cool, and don't make you look like a footballers wife. Granted though 40mpg + is very good, but paying £45k (or whatever the lease sets you back) just for a 'fashion statement' 4x4 that does an extra 15mpg, has a horrendous depreciation problem and gets a poor Autocar review seems like a fools errand to me. Still, your money! Is it white by any chance?
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One of the best put-downs I've read in ages 🙂
why wet your pants over a blany Golf when you can find a standard A4 with over 350bhp?
surley the ultiamte chuck-your-bike-in-and-rag-it mototr is an MTM tuned T5.....
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I can't think of any woman who's going to jump into the sack with me because I have a "R" over a GT tdi, so I fail to see the attraction...