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Episode 2 tonight
Anyone else watching?
Yes, caught the start of the first one as it was straight after Bob and Paul and got drawn in. Looks decent but slight concern that it might descend into nonsense. Tonight will tell.
Yeah could turn into line of duty in a tin can.
Enjoyed last night, but as above, let's see how silly it gets!
We're watching it. Seems decent enough, and it's got plenty of room to get interesting. I like the claustrophobic atmosphere on the sub.
After seeing a yellow seaking with Royal Navy written on it I can’t bring my self to watch it.
@peajay Yes, the SeaKing threw me too, although they are of course 'proper' helicopters. Big Yellow Taxi, and all that. Will stick with it for the novelty value of the rest of the setting though.
Watching it. Plenty of space inside there!
I like the claustrophobic atmosphere on the sub.
It’s absolutely palatial in comparison to a real sub - you’d have to drill holes in the hull of a real sub to try and get some of those shot angles.
After commenting on the fishing trawler getting dragged backwards at a silly angle rather than just sinking, and the crap effort at CPR, I was ordered to keep quite! I don't watch much telly but have been waiting for this one so hopefully its worth the wait 🙂
After seeing a yellow seaking with Royal Navy written on it I can’t bring my self to watch it.
Aye. And that’s not the worst crime either. Did the RN actually cooperate with this in any way?
I can’t for the life of me work out why civilian police and not SIB are investigating this - did I miss something?
I can live with technical inaccuracies, it's fiction after all. Plot holes and poor characterisation are what kills any drama for me and it's ok in that regard so far.
I can’t for the life of me work out why civilian police and not SIB are investigating this – did I miss something?
No, you didn't, and the entire premise of "the navy dropped a civilian detective on a Trident sub" is really bugging me. Maybe there's some deep conspiracy that the Navy can't trust their own police to deal with, or maybe they hope that most people won't care (my wife doesn't, for example).
I’d imagine the SIB aren’t investigating as the RMP don’t deal with murders etc since all the shambles of the past (deepcut and the like), and it would be down to home office police as it’s supposed to have happened in British waters. But yes, a civilian on an active trident sub just wouldn’t happen. Enjoying it though!
The technical inaccuracies are glaring, and there’s a fine line between dramatic license and an apparent lack of basic research. The uniforms are all wrong too as far as I can tell (Christ knows what cereal packet Branning’s cap badge was found in, but it’s not an RN one).
Vigil has, however, given me the opportunity to point out to my former RN Reserve colleagues this is what it’s like watching Casualty as a medic.
I am wondering why there seems to be a mix of various rig worn by the crew.. never been in a sub though so maybe it’s different rules beneath the waves 😉
Poor IMO. Big name actors (well for Uk tv) and an attempt at fancy CGI. Neither of which make up for a weak story and script. No real performance from anyone that stands out but Tbf script doesn’t give them much to work on.
And as others have said loads of holes to pick at and spoil the experience.
I keep thinking of old star trek as they do the lean to the side bit!
Not a fan, shame as bet it cost a decent budget to put together.
I can’t for the life of me work out why civilian police and not SIB are investigating this – did I miss something?
According to the writer the premise is..
....a sailor being found dead during an active patrol, with an additional problem so far as the Navy is concerned: the death occurs while the submarine is inside British territorial waters, making it a matter for the police. A compromise between Navy and police is reached, and a single detective is flown by helicopter to join the submarine on its patrol.
Bullshit though. Would still be an RNP matter (with or without civilian police help).
Must admit I’m finding it hugely contrived. “ I know let’s take a police officer who has just survived an accident featuring being trapped underwater in a confined space & put her in a submarine”..
Also the way in which everyone is behaving seems really unrealistic. The police aren’t acting like police & the navy aren’t acting like the navy. For me it is getting in the way of the plot. The whole premise it’s based on lacks any credibility.
I can live with technical inaccuracies, it’s fiction after all. Plot holes and poor characterisation are what kills any drama for me and it’s ok in that regard so far.
There's fiction and far fetched bull shit. They did the same with bodyguard - it could have been much better if they just calmed down a bit. I've started so I'll probably finish but right now its far from impressive.
I caught about 30 seconds of it by accident after finishing a film, I was just in time to see them pootling along at periscope depth (in a Trident boat?) and the Captain being startled by the sudden appearance of an oil tanker. Righty ho.
I was intending to catch it on iPlayer but maybe I'll not bother.
There's a decent not-quite-edge-of-darkness thriller in there somewhere I think, but it feels like they're trying to do three or four different series in one go so far.
(I'm happy to suspend disbelief as far as RN/police stuff goes so far - it is only TV after all)
I think we'll stick with it now though having got through the first two episodes.
I caught about 30 seconds of it by accident after finishing a film, I was just in time to see them pootling along at periscope depth (in a Trident boat?) and the Captain being startled by the sudden appearance of an oil tanker. Righty ho.
that's not even the worst bit! Presumably it's there for a reason though - otherwise it was just poor dramatic filler? Is it too early to predict stuff?
- so the near miss with the oil tanker someone was trying to crash the sub intentionally?
- Cal MacAninch is too big an actor to just be a bit part on the camp - so he's probably an undercover MI5 operative that's penetrated the CND group
Clearly the bloke who died has done 'something' to the sub to make things go wrong, eg, the reactor, the sonar. I'm not sure if I'll keep watching. I thought subs were small inside! The Capt had a lovely big office.
After seeing a yellow seaking with Royal Navy written on it I can’t bring my self to watch it.
Documentaries and news programmes available on other channels, I believe?
It reappeared this week with rescue on the side, but looking for wreckage so RAF SAR
As has been mentioned the set inaccuracies are an annoyance but weak plot and characters are making it a farce,
The Navy are enemy within, trying cover up everything, with a rogue public school boy, who is responsible for everything, back dude commander , who is really a good guy, but struggle again "the system" .... but as we are on episode 2, this is going to take more twists and turns than a naked Twister session.
Of course, we have to have police person with mental heath and anxiety issues (Marcella anyone) , and her new lesbian lover. Who is now going to be on the sub fro threes ( with no survival train, no H&S training, no familiarisation with the boat, and no basic training) Just waiting for the transgender wheelchair child to roll into the action, and maybe a cameo from Meghan and Harry.
It's all going to be Line of Duty Lite/ Dr Foster hybrid - with Marcella bits ...
I thought subs were small inside!
Typhoon class boats have swimming pools in them.
Typhoon class boats have swimming pools in them.
Yeah, but no diving boards.
Anyway I'm prepared to suspend belief for 4 more episodes.
BTW does Adam James only ever play arseholes?
( with no survival train, no H&S training,
I just can't wait to see a TV drama about HSE training 🙂
I just can’t wait to see a TV drama about HSE training 🙂
Dunno - the way BBC drama is going, it would bet against it> It was more the issue of the setting ( other than it wouldn't be police matter) is nonsense - she would not be allowed on a sub for 3 weeks with out prior assessment. And anxiety and depression wouldn't really be idea - esp after a bizarre drowning incident.
And nobody takes dump, takes a wash or eats
And nobody takes dump, takes a wash or eats
when was the last time you saw a character in a film having a shit?
Still. I'll bear it in mind. I'm working on a screenplay based on my BOSIET training. It's all about a middle aged desk jockey chundering his guts. At least STW will appreciate the realism, if not the plot 🙂
And nobody takes dump, takes a wash or eats
Suranne Jones on the crapper for 55 minutes is hardly going to be prime time viewing, well not in our house anyway.
Next up... The dragons in Game of Thrones weren't real.
I’m enjoying it so far. Know naff all about submarines so lack of realism isn’t really an issue for me..😀
Next up… The dragons in Game of Thrones weren’t real
You have literally ruined my life ... 🙁
From now on I will watch Vigil as a fantasy - any idea what episode the dragons and goblins will appear in?
I can't bring myself to watch it (and I could look at Suranne Jones all day long) I'll just annoy the boss on the settee pointing put stuff so I will let her watch it alone.
Size wise I will say that some boats are bigger than others and nowhere was really that claustrophobic. There was a 'gym' on bombers, if you can call a few free weights and a treadmill a gym.
It’s all going to be Line of Duty Lite/ Dr Foster hybrid – with Marcella bits …
You are a TV commissioning editor and I claim my £5
Next up… The dragons in Game of Thrones weren’t real.
Oh, spoiler alert!
As it happens in Scottish waters I'd have thought the minimum police drop onto the boat would be two detectives for corroboration purposes.
But there is so much else that isn't accurate ao who cares. On Radio Scotland one of the actors claimed they had an ex submariner on the set to advise on accuracy.
They can't be real cops. They dont solve the crime by pinning photos onto a board and staring at them for a bit. Well. Not yet, anyway.
I'm not arsed about technical accuracy of uniforms, hardware, liveries etc. I just want to be entertained and VIGIL is doing that up to now. It is fiction not a documentary so bring on the holes.
Not sure if it's the angles and lighting but I didn't realise Suranne (Sarah) had such a hooter on her.
I think the warm and cuddly coxswain (Endeavour bloke?) will turn out to be a proper badass.
As a lover of contrived dramas with no real plot to speak of, starring surranne Jones, my wife loves it. I fully expected to hate it already but so far it's tolerable. I'm sure it's on borrowed time though.
There’s a decent not-quite-edge-of-darkness thriller in there somewhere I think,
I watched EoD again a few years ago. It was utterly ludicrous, something which escaped me as a teenager.
when was the last time you saw a character in a film having a shit?
Game of Thrones: Tywin Lanister - Didn't end well.
Still on GOT is anyone else waiting for the detective (back on land) to say "you know nothing (Jon Snow)".