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All very odd.
Why couldn't you just switch your phone off, therefore preventing you from looking at the image. Why is the picture of a foetus so disturbing? Is it because its a bit of a taboo subject, and many people like to think of foetus's not looking like a baby until they pop their head out as it makes abortion easier to cope with?
Take a visit to this museum and you will see a number of foetus's before your eyes. It made me reconsider my views on abortion.
http://www.rcseng.ac.uk/museums
Yes i get that there are Campaigns on Facebook but they are relatively few in number against the backdrop or the huge number of people using it for its main purpose; social networking.The thousands of "Facebook Campaigns" would disprove that theory I suspect.
Also, you choose to be on Facebook, just like you choose to go to a comedy show.
Indeed, but comedians are known to be offensive, to a greater or lesser degree they set out to challenge the norms in society and [i]try[/i] to make us laugh at/with them. Facebook is a social networking site. If I went to a business networking meeting and someone confronted me with a highly contentious agenda that was not in the spirit of the meeting I would find that quite offensive - whether I agreed with their standpoint or not. It is about the context. If the FB OP had put up a link and not broadcast a picture I would say that was perfectly OK. You then have the choice to go there or not.
Why is the picture of a foetus so disturbing? Is it because its a bit of a taboo subject, and many people like to think of foetus's not looking like a baby until they pop their head out as it makes abortion easier to cope with?
I wouldn't particularly want images from most medical procedures popping up unexpectedly on my wall, whether it was the result of an abortion or gallstone removal...
nealglover - MemberYour friend sadly lost his babies at 5 months. And the picture posted on Facebook (I would imagine) is an aborted 24 week old foetus (slightly older than your friends twins)
My friend and his wife chose to induce birth as the identical twins were both Down's Syndrome. So they were effectively aborted, and later than would have been legally allowed had they not been found to be Down's.
If you go to a comedy show and are offended by the content then you chose to be there and put yourself at risk.
You don't know if you'll be offended until you go. there's no point going to comedy when you've already seen the show. However, you can choose not to go, or which comedians to go to see. Not all will offend.
Facebook's the same. You choose to be there knowing that other people may have different views and a different agenda to yourself.
You also, and more importantly, choose which accounts link to your own. You don't need to be linked to anyone you don't want to be. It's not a community of strangers.
Why don't you just remove the 'friend' you posted (or shared) the image from your friend list?
loum - Member
Facebook's the same. You choose to be there knowing that other people may have different views and a different agenda to yourself.
You also, and more importantly, choose which accounts link to your own. You don't need to be linked to anyone you don't want to be. It's not a community of strangers.
Rubbish. Facebook is like a pub, or any other social gathering. Society has a happy way of filtering out such offensive behaviour, people who behave like that are ostracised. And people that use facebook in that way should also be.
I felt compelled to message a "friend" who drunkenly posted very offensive views about Cheryl Coal's penchant for men of differing ethnicity. I made it clear that if it wasn't removed, I'd report him.
If you wouldn't tolerate certain behaviour in the real world, you shouldn't tolerate it on Facebook.
If you wouldn't tolerate certain behaviour in the real world, you shouldn't tolerate it on Facebook.
The thing is that many of us [i]would[/i] and do tolerate the sort of thing that the OP is talking about. Not because we agree with it but because we accept that in a free society people should be able to express whatever views they want without censorship, although not necessarily without censure.
Cheryl Coal
A certain irony in the misspelling.
gonefishin - MemberThe thing is that many of us would and do tolerate the sort of thing that the OP is talking about.
Really?? It's one thing expressing a view, but inflicting offensive or distressing images on others isn't acceptable.
[b]jon1973[/b] - Member
Why don't you just remove the 'friend' you posted (or shared) the image from your friend list?
OP - this is plan A. If you really want to remain "friends" you can switch off being notified of any of their status updates etc.
You're story about the artist formerly known as [i]Cheryl Coal[/i] is irrelevant. There's no racist or otherwise illegal material in the OP's story.
Someone's facebook wall is a fair medium for their own views. As I understand it, you choose what you see on your own wall by being facebook-friends with others. If their views are that far away from your own then maybe you've been "collecting" too many friends.
And it's a pub now, when it was a comedy show earlier? Confused?
Blimey where did all this come from!
Ok, I went on the laptop and reported the photo and it disappeared from my feed. The friend who commented on it, thereby making it appear on my feed was politely saying 'I don't think this is appropriate for Facebook Penny'. So, I wont be blocking her any time soon as she is a lovely person. The person who posted the picture however has their profile open so I had a quick stalk and she does look a bit mental.....(I know I'll get grief for that but nevermind....)
Func I found it upsetting because it's a life lost, whether miscarriage or abortion, it didn't make me think 'OMG I'm now anti abortion', it just upset me because any picture of a dead baby would upset me, at whatever stage of development and is not something I feel I want to see. I stand by my right to say I don't think it's appropriate for FB and that I found it offensive and upsetting.
ah, so you must be some atheist/agnostic loon
I'm an atheist and get properly pee'd off when people clog up feeds with these crap religious posters. That said, it doesn't happen very often because I cannot be friends with people with such opinions and am therefore not friends with them on FB ๐
unless she's offered to punch you in the knob too!
I'll punch anyone in the knob.....form an orderly queue
Mrs Toast - Member
Or spam the poster with images of your menstrual outgoings, mourning the loss of potential.
๐ ๐
Really?? It's one thing expressing a view, but inflicting offensive or distressing images on others isn't acceptable.
I don't find the image distressing or offensive.
Maybe I find the events that led up to the image distressing or offensive, but not the image itself.
Really?? It's one thing expressing a view, but inflicting offensive or distressing images on others isn't acceptable.
The problem is that you can't draw a definite line as to what is considered "offensive or distressing".
nealglover - Member
I don't find the image distressing or offensive.Maybe I find the events that led up to the image distressing or offensive, but not the image itself.
How do you sit down with balls that big? ๐
Emma can I ask why this is a religious issue ?
Wether a foetus is a "real" human being deserving of life has nothing with religion.
Its like saying Murder is just a religious issue.
Its a human rights issue.
Shibboleth you say society has unwritten, self-imposed boundaries for decency and good taste. But in many people view aborting a fetus is not decent or in good taste and is offensive to them.
Therefore the fact that society allows abortion over rides these rules as it is an important message for them to get across. Im not sure how you expect them to campaign against abortion ?
Personally I would not post this picture though.
How do you sit down with balls that big?
You can make sound like I'm trying to be all macho if you like ๐
But what I am actually saying is......
The idea of someone aborting a baby upsets and distresses me.
The picture is just that, a picture. And if it helps someone to rationalise a decision that they may regret, then I'm happy for it to be displayed.
(am I suitably in touch with my feminine side for you now ๐ )
Emma, you silver tongued hussy, you.
[i]Emma can I ask why this is a religious issue ?[/i]
You missed this bit: [i]she's some religious loon [/i]
The idea of someone aborting a baby upsets and distresses me.The picture is just that, a picture. And if it helps someone to rationalise a decision that they may regret, then I'm happy for it to be displayed.
The idea that you defecate once or twice a day doesn't distress me in the slightest. It's perfectly normal.
But do I want to see pictures of you doing it or the end result? No, I most certainly don't.
I don't want to see pictures like that, and social convention dictates that you don't post pictures of that kind of thing on Facebook because people would be offended.
It's not rocket science, and no matter how many times you try and dress it up as "self expression" or "the right to protest", it's distasteful and unacceptable. End of.
Shibboleth.
Did you even read what I wrote.
If you did you must realise how totally pointless and stupid your comparison is.
I'm talking about a babies life, and your talking...... Shit.
I deleted a 'friend' of mine on Facebook because I didnt like the language he used on his posts. I didn't see the need to report him or his posts, because that was just how he was and was within his boundaries.
As far as I was aware he hadn't broken any rules, and neither is showing a picture of a pre term human baby girl or boy
I'm talking about a [b]foetus[/b], and your talking...... Shit.
FTFY, and he wasn't comparing babies and poo, he was comparing two images likely to offend/upset people.
Go on then, post a picture of you taking a dump on your profile, I bet someone finds it offensive. And if they don't it's time to question your circle of friends.
FTFY, and he wasn't comparing babies and poo, he was comparing two images likely to offend/upset people.
One of which has a reason behind it. Trying to save people making decisions they may regret.
If you can't see the difference, or pretend not to, that's fine.
Ask a simple question eh Emma?
tinas
maybe you could start a facebook campaign against dumps, if that's what offends you?
Someone has commented on a photo on FB[s], it's a picture of a foetus, probably about 12/13 weeks, she's some religious loon and it's an anti abortion type thing. I can't comment on it because it's someone else's picture but I can't work out how the hell to hide it/delete it from my phone? It's extremely disturbing although I think it might be fake.[/s] How can I get rid of it off the FB iPhone app?
[i]a simple question[/i]?
Which, I'm glad to hear, was resolved very early in the thread. Probably worth leaving it at that.
social convention dictates that you don't post pictures of that kind of thing on Facebook because people would be offended
I would say the social conventions are not yet quite defined for facebook as it is fairly new.
I sometimes post links to political issue, ie I posted the link to the 38 degrees campaign against selling off the forestry land.
Some of the people who got the post may have thought that FB is not the place for people trying to push political issues in your face its just a social thing.
The boundaries have yet to be clearly defined but Im sure in time they will.
Scu98rkr, I'm sure very few people would be offended by links to those campaigns. I'm also confident that none would be offended if you posted pictures of forestry commission land.
And I doubt people would be too offended if the OP's "friend" had posted a link to an anti-abortion site. If it doesn't interest you, you don't need to click it.
It's the use of a completely abhorrent image that can't be "unseen" that's the problem. I think we all know it's unacceptable, but you'll always get some pillock that wants to argue the toss thinking he's a clever dick.
I think its more the OP original posting thats got peoples back up than the desire to be a clever dick (referring to me + other presumably ?).
The fact that you have to be "some religious loon" to be anti-abortion. That only lunatics and idiots could possible conceive that abortion may not be a great idea.
tinas
maybe you could start a facebook campaign against dumps, if that's what offends you?
If you'd beenn either downwind or within earshot of my dump this morning you'd have been offended, trust me!
She was a religious loon though, I said before I looked at the other stuff she posted as her profile was open and it was full of aggression, hatred and just pure nasty nasty stuff. Not all religious people are loons but she is definatetly a religious loon.
On reflection I could have not mentioned what the picture was, just that I wanted rid but I was upset at the time of posting so I talked about it.
I don't have anything whatsoever against people who disagree or don't disagree with abortion and I know lots of people who campaign for lots of different things but I say again, I stand by my right to be deeply upset and offended by someone posting on Facebook a picture of a dead baby.
