[Closed] Twin Peaks

It's been said (Lynch IIRC) that 'Fire Walk With Me' is critical to understanding the new series

understanding the new series

I've given up on this and I'm trying to just go with it.

I was a big fan of the old series but really struggled with the new stuff from episode 3 - the doppelganger tree was the tipping point. Ive the remaining episodes backed up ready for a binge watch if I can face getting back in to the following episode

Great episode this week. Really moving along now

Bit of a dull episode this week, even with the long-awaited return of Audrey.

Realised after the last episode, David Lynch has made himself pretty much the main character in the new series - and that scene with the Frenchwoman in his hotel room seemed a tad indulgent.

About six episodes left now IIRC.

The "dougie" thing is getting a wee bit grating. Surely he's going to snap back to proper Cooper at somepoint?

My current theory is that Coop's return from the Black Lodge will happen as the season finale.

Crikey, still going! Has an actual plot materialised among the weirdness?

I think so, or maybe I've just got accustomed to the weirdness.

Surely he's going to snap back to proper Cooper at somepoint?

I'm hanging on in there but struggling.

As said earlier we need no more new!

I'd love a chat with Lynch though 😆

I'm having a fantasy about a girl who can tie knots in cherry stalks with her tongue...
And those eyebrows...

www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/people-who-pretended-to-like-twin-peaks-first-time-around-facing-very-difficult-summer-20170525128179

Ha, I think the lightweights have long since given up on the new series.

It makes the original episodes look like Hollyoaks.

Ha, I think the lightweights have long since given up on the new series.

It makes the original episodes look like Hollyoaks.

Watched all the original episodes with my wife (her first time!) this year. I have seen the whole thing many times and still love it, but it wasn't as weird as I remembered.

It was the mix of oddness and cosiness that won my heart, and the new series is far less cosy - but it's still identifiably Twin Peaks and that's good enough.

Well that was a surprisingly coherent and conventional episode. It's all starting to come together, kind of.

Not happy about what they've done with Norma and Big Ed though. Not happy at all.

Yeah, very good episode this week. Thought Dougie was almost going to snap out of it when he had the cherry pie

I think we're stuck with Dougie at least until the mysterious Blue Rose/Black Lodge event that Hawk said is happening in two days. Good Coop is stuck in the void.

Western Montana (where Bad Coop was in this episode) is just over the border from Twin Peaks - he's getting closer, as we could see from Richard Horne turning up.

My wife read an excellent theory about Audrey BTW, that she's still in a coma from the bank explosion and is dreaming her scenes.

Read today that there are zero plans for another series, so it should be concluded (as much as that's possible in Lynch-world) by the end of this series, which is a 2 hour finale.

It's bonkers, and in my opinion terrible. My wife who is a massive fan, to the point where we are spending a small fortune visiting the Salish Lodge later this year, is not loving the new stuff as much as the old.

Interesting point about Coop still being stuck in the void (I assume that was the odd concrete house), I thought he fell out of there?

I was struggling with it for a few of the early episodes, but I think it's the best thing on telly now.

Haven't seen s3 yet, apart from the reviews on YouTube

Really like David lynches work

But, so far, all the episodes have been very 'white'. Being on-set must feel like the Alamo.

Great this week, though the bit with the guy with the rubber glove was proper WTF 😆

@boardinBob

That's why I prefer to leave my bike with the lbs, even for the simplest tasks, lol!

That accent though 😯

Not sure I really get Lynch's sense of humour sometimes.

Quite a few WTF moments this week; Sarah Palmer most of all. How's that gonna fit in?

So is Judy really Major Briggs? His first name being Garland.

What was that girl screaming about at the end? The band weren't that bad.

Will Dougie be shocked back into the Coop we know and love? Unlikely but electricity does seem to be significant in TP.

And was this week's episode good or not? I can't really tell any more but I'm really going to miss it when it's all over.

BTW, the dog walker was Mark Frost.

Have never been so keen to watch an entire series of something that I truly feel the creator/director is intentionally taking the piss over.
Its enfuriating nonsense, but at the same time particularly brave TV. Its more like season 2, which rambled with unnecessary subplots, but alas season 3 is completely lacking what made the originals so great - Agent Cooper!
This bumbling copy cat nonsense has worn atomically thin.

Despite my criticism, the (seeming) union of Ed and Norma was brilliant to watch.
Everything crossed that the finale is worth waiting for.

At first I found the lack of Coop frustrating and wilfully perverse, but I'm now in awe of Lynch's bravery in withholding him from us.

Not totally sold on him giving himself so much airtime, but the Monica Belluci scene was fun.

Of course, anything with Madame Belucci is pure solid gold IMO.

I'm the same, my hat is off the Lynch for doing everything his way, or nothing at all. But, I just have a suspicion he is intentionally leading us up the longest garden path..

That being said, a completely lucid Coop saving the day in the final episode would be a brilliant crescendo to sign off with.

The big thing missing for me is a complete lack of anything scary.

The original terrified me albeit I was young. Bob gave me nightmares

There's nothing like that in this series buy I am thoroughly enjoying it

I know what you mean. I watched the original episodes and Fire: Walk With Me this year.

The movie in particular is really quite unsettling, as are some of the scenes with Leland and BOB in the series.

Sarah Palmer is about the scariest thing in the new one.

Edit: I think one reason the old stuff was more uncomfortable was the violence against women, so I'm not unhappy that the new ones are missing that.

I've enjoyed this whole season. I look forward to it every week and have not been disappointed. Some bits have been a little slow, but when Lynch is on, he's really on.
It's like watching a puzzle - and completely different to anything on TV. You don't know if seemingly weird irrelevant moments are in fact, important to the plot.

And Philip Jeffries is now a teapot.

Agree with you, Cha****ng, Fire: Walk with Me is a really tough film to watch. I've tried recently, but it freaks me out and I last saw it in the late 90's.

Yes!

Very, very, very good episode.

Won't mention spoilers but it was great. 2 episodes left

2 episodes left

Yeah. Given how off the wall this series has been, no network would commission another series anyway. Can't see much point to be honest. I expect a suitably bizarre and ambivalent conclusion

Amazing episode. That's what I call delayed gratification!

All finishes next week with a double-header I believe?

I'm happy to wait another 25 years for the next series, any sooner would feel hasty.

The AV Club does the best write-up on TP that I've seen, if anyone's interested...
http://www.avclub.com/special-agent-dale-cooper-is-100-back-and-so-is-twin-p-1798483175

Aye, well 😆

Really no idea what to say after that.

I [i]enjoyed[/i] it but I have literally no clue

Really no idea what to say after that

Well, that was thought-provoking at least. I didn't enjoy the final episode, but I don't think that was the plan.

I have so many ideas about [i]what it all means[/i].

Lynch kind-of giving fans the ending they wanted in ep17 and then snatching it away again and putting Coop in the same estranged position that the viewers spent most of the series in.

Was Coop rescuing Laura or torturing her in the end? Was Lynch mocking our cosy nostalgia about Twin Peaks (the town) by presenting it unvarnished?

Fun fact: The house owner at the end is apparently the owner of the Palmers' house in real life.

Long read but worth it

http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/twin-peaks-the-return-showtime-review.html

Good analysis there.

Was "Richard" an amalgam of the three Coops (the Good, the Bad and the Dougie), and were we invited to see his actions in the finale as amoral?

Maybe not, but it was fascinating how they'd stripped away all the artifice on the filming, sound and dialogue in the alternative reality. Perhaps it was supposed to be how Coop would appear in the real world?

*spoilers here*

I believe the theory of the permanent mobius loop - the one that Phillip Jeffries puffed out (!) to coop.

He was always trying to save Laura, but always failing (leading her away from her death in the original narrative) but losing her in the woods. And then this was repeated - leading her to her house. That's a very simplified version. The stuff with Diane in the hotel was really creepy.

What I loved about the return to her house and the 'new' owners was that they were the 'Tremont's' and prior to that the 'Chalfont's'. If you remember Fire Walk With Me - cooper investigates the Deer Meadow trailer park and there is a missing trailer (where Agent Desmond disappeared). Carl rodd tells Cooper that it was owned by the 'Chalfont's - two lots of them'......but also the Tremont's.

Anyway......I blimmn' loved it. Best thing I've seen on TV.

The old lady and her magic grandson who lived next door to Harold were also Chalfonts.

And remember the lad wearing this familiar-looking mask?
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Yeah the final scene with Diane was well dark.

And remember the lad wearing this familiar-looking mask?

I remember. Christ. 🙂

There's a theory knocking around that at least one of the realities is Laura's dream.

What troubles me a bit are all the totally loose ends. Balthazar Getty's character, the bit where Bobby sees the weid zombie like kid in the car, the zombie like dude in the cell. What the hell was that about? I mean, I don't mind, but.....