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What is the problem with the 70s? Perfectly fine to me as it reflects the culture of the people whatever they are.
Same here - my family used to watch it and laugh lots back in the day and none of us are remotely racist (well, except my mum!)*. It was more an affectionate chuckle at the different cultures.
*or maybe we all were and didn't know it 🤔
This has to be a windup? 🤣
Relax, it actually reflects 70s era ...
Same here – my family used to watch it and laugh lots back in the day and none of us are remotely racist (well, except my mum!)*.
I doubt your mum was racist but rather the way she looks at the world. We all do.
It was more an affectionate chuckle at the different cultures.
In Borneo we have hundreds if not thousands of different tribes and not all of them like each others. They can have a conversation but not beyond that until today. We have plenty of islands from the Philippines and Indonesia and all have their own cultures and views of others.
*or maybe we all were and didn’t know it 🤔
Nowadays you get to travel more to understand the world and more people take offence at being stereotyped but why impose change on them?
...and as pointed out earlier, the laughs were aimed at the bigots.
Ripe for an update – there must be plenty of new material and characters to go at in 21st century Holmfirth.
Yes they should have done a Christmas Brexit special.
Relax, it actually reflects 70s era …
Was laughing, thought you were joking that it ‘reflects the culture of the people’ ie it instead portrays other Nationalities as comically bad cardboard-cutout stereotypes from the British colonial era/perspective. It does reflect elements of the 70s era I’d agree. It may well have been poking fun at 70s British attitudes to ‘foreigners’ but never gave it that much thought. I was a kid when it was on, and it reflected the general received view back then of working class white Brits around me that ‘foreigners’ in general were either stupid, or evil/sly/sneaky/promiscuous or ‘cute’ like a furry pet (or even a mix of all three). 🤣😂.
I’m assuming we’re limiting this “hatefest” to the core BBC,C4&5 here?
If so then BBC4 should stop all the billybrexit WW2 horse crap that they spout 2weeks of the month. There seems to be a very retarded view from BBC 4 whereby instead of looking forward and innovation and informing, they’re stuck in the past going over the same old dirge about W’Churchill or some other shite about Nazi criminals or some shit related. For added effect the title of the Programme must include the words WW2 & Nazi together..
Who is the head of BBC4 BTW? Damn if I shouldn’t write a strongly worded letter to them.
Yours sincerely
Annoyed ANon, South Coast bloke.
I don't even watch ITV (apart from Family Guy on ITV 2), people at work find that strange - then I list the brain dead stuff - anything with Ant & Dec, Simon Cowell, celebrity this that and something else.
Also, over xmas some of the old Carry on films and the like which were on are well past it, I think it was something like On the Buses and looking up a womens skirt as she went up the stairs
I doubt your mum was racist but rather the way she looks at the world
Oh, she definitely is!
For me, things like MYL and the Alf Garnett vehicles are problematic because whilst the intention might well have been to satirise Alf as a racist idiot, this subtlety was lost on the real racist idiots watching it who thought he was a hero for openly banging on about "darkies."
I think it's perhaps possible to laugh along at the stereotypes - as Chewie says - so long as you recognise that they are stereotypes and what's being sent up is people's attitudes to stereotyping rather than the stereotypes themselves. Sadly I expect this was lost on most folk watching, certainly back in the 70s, and instead it just promoted those ideas.
If so then BBC4 should stop all the billybrexit WW2 horse crap that they spout 2weeks of the month.
Okay slightly different to WW2 but I was watching the documentary on WW1 (middle east campaign) where all the Aussie horses at the end of their campaign were to put down after they won. That really makes me very angry (going to turn into the big green muscular person soon just thinking of it) at those, whoever they are in the higher command, that gave the order to put down all the horses. I hope his soul is in hell being trampled over and over by the horses for eternity. Simply put, without the horses and the brave calvary they would not have won the war and at least they should respect the horses by bringing them home. A sign of respect. Remember, all the horses were confiscated from farm land in Ozland and someone beloved pets or healthy working horses. I give NO respect to those that gave such a command to put down all the horses because they own a big gratitudes to those war horses.
We used to have a water buffalo that worked in the farm many years ago and by the time it got old we simply gave him a proper retirement by feeding and looking after him like a pet (a small barn with straws to himself and let him enjoy his life wondering around doing nothing in the farm) until he passed away peacefully in the sleep. We treat all animal in the same way. We don't slaughter it when it is old or passed by it working life. Working animal should be retired peacefully as simple as that.
I rarely have my hands on the tv control, and have a healthy ability to filter out some of the nonsense my kids watch. But Mrs Browns boys is the work of Satan.
It may well have been poking fun at 70s British attitudes to ‘foreigners’ but never gave it that much thought. I was a kid when it was on, and it reflected the general received view back then of working class white Brits around me that ‘foreigners’ in general were either stupid, or evil/sly/sneaky/promiscuous or ‘cute’ like a furry pet (or even a mix of all three).
I don't agree, as I said before it tended to be the thick, white bigot who came out of it looking bad. Of course there will be those who think Alf Garnett was a real social commentator!!
27 Million viewers would disagree with morecombe and wise being unpopular. Watched the hilights of hilights this year with by adult kids. Fashions change but comic timing does not go out of style. Andre Previn, sure you may not know him if you are under 30, but that sketch is one of the most famous in British comedy history. He was the world’s most famous classic music conductor. The British love self-deprecation more than almost any other trait.
I don’t really watch television at all to be honest, certainly none of the shows mentioned. But for poor comedy that doesn’t age well, Jim Davidson, Alf Garnet, possibly Benny Hill (although it was normally self-deprecating humour with women in control). But not morecombe and wise.
On a personal note, I’d like to bring back Butterflies. Because that’s where my middle age life is currently!
Gavin & Stacey
My dad insisted it was worth a watch on Xmas day.
Apparently the two fattest actors also write it *1; so that’s why they seem to think they are the best characters. And Rob Brydon plays a man who is hinted at being a pedo *2.
Laugh? Not at all.
Bin, please.
1: Not sure what their size has to do with whether you like a TV programme or not? Mummy tell you you couldn't have another mince pie this year?
2: Takes one to know one?
Anything with Zombies or Dragons.
Anything with Zombies or Dragons.
Got a feeling you're not gonna be a fan of The Witcher. Zombies, dragons, witches, pixie elf things, goat people, walking abortions, you name it, it's in there somewhere.
But Mrs Browns boys is the work of Satan.
Except The Lord of Darkness would be far too discerning to allow himself to be associated with that crock of xxxx.
I was unimpressed with Gavin and Stacey, I think the time has passed. Although I think if they ever do reveal the content of the camping trip joke (clearly it's written in such a way that we'll never find out but the viewer fills in the gap from their own imagination) they'll reveal a tame punchline and then the other characters will be not shocked and say 'well I've done worse'
Mrs Browns boys I cannot fathom. Xfactor and all the other talent shows can all go in the bin as well. Personally I never got that interested in all the scandi drama and it seems to have passed the peak of fashion, not knocking the quality though.
There are a lot of history documentaries on BBC4 but I'm not sure that WW1 WW2 has more coverage than Greek/Roman history or Tudor history
Got a feeling you’re not gonna be a fan of The Witcher. Zombies, dragons, witches, pixie elf things, goat people, walking abortions, you name it, it’s in there somewhere.
Probably not but I feel less gammony as I'm not being forced at gun point to watch it (it's Netflix not Auntie Beeb isnt it?) unlike some of the above ^
I’ve not watched regular TV
I’ve not watch _scheduled_ TV in decades
Whilst it's always nice to be a pedant, isn't all most all of the TV on this thread absolutely the definition of regular? As in once a week, every week for x number of weeks?
On the Buses, in any incarnation. It's trotted out on one of the ITV channels in the mornings. Absolute garbage of the lowest order, I'm staggered it was ever recommissioned after the pilot. Apparently Bob Grant who played the 'clippie' attempted suicide several times, succeeding at the third attempt; it's actually a pretty tragic story.
Still a crap tv show though, although v popular in the 70s, but then so was Jim Davidson and B Manning.
Times and tastes change, I guess...
Tomorrow's World.
A program to inform & enthuse youngsters about science & engineering, to create & be optimistic about the future, yeah get rid of that...
Noooooo! They always Say never meet your heroes. But Judith Hann runs a consultancy for technical public speaking and I had the pleasure of her and her husband’s (a journalist) company for a day for some training at work. They were both excellent, and I was just a little bit in awe.
"On the Buses, in any incarnation. It’s trotted out on one of the ITV channels in the mornings. Absolute garbage of the lowest order, I’m staggered it was ever recommissioned after the pilot."
A lovely lady bus and coach driver i met, she said "ON THE BUSES" was like real life at her depot, fun every day.
Space 1999 and UFO, where absolute rubbish compared with Thunderbirds, Captain Scarlett, Stingray Fireball Xl5 and Joe 90 that where made by the same people well.
Just wait till this Saturday Night itv, prime time, and wonder who thought this was a great idea for a new tv show.
Soaps
Almost everything made by the BBC
Daytime TV shows
JP
On the buses is magnificent, you are deranged for suggesting it.
Could somebody tell me why Mrs Brown's Boys generates so much hate?
Naked Attraction is appalling on so many levels.
Love Island / TOWIE etc are a complete mystery to me. I simply don't understand if they are acting, scripted, real life or what the point actually is?
Any detective series described as 'noir'.
Could somebody tell me why Mrs Brown’s Boys generates so much hate?
Yep. It's because it's infantile shite.
Yep. It’s because it’s infantile shite.
Well - thanks for such a considered response.
Robust, objective and backed by empirical data.
You want empirical data as to why someone doesn't like something? How's that supposed to work? You were expecting a spreadsheet?
Should have added a smilie. It was typically enriched STW response.
Just joshin'.
Ah, they joy of text. Sorry!
Tee Hee.
No prob's Coug's.
I think suspecting Bryn is a pedo says more about you than the character.
Oh really? What does it say?
Stop being so defensive; if you like it, you like it. I thought it was utter dross.