As for chewk, no more foreign wars, no more Goldman Sachs employees in positions of power......
Trump is shattering your dreams !
kimbers - Member
> http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-confident-us-military-strike-syria-wiped-out-55722
Crikey you are very good at finding some weird articles don't you. 😆
kimbers - Member
As for chewk, no more foreign wars, no more Goldman Sachs employees in positions of power......Trump is shattering your dreams !
See even President Trump has now won you over. 😆
Its alright Chewy - Kimbers is just griping to cover his own embarrassment because we all went to bed last night with him whinging about Trump not doing anything about CW use in Syria, and then woke up to him whinging about Trump doing something about CW use in Syria (you know, Obamas 'red line' issue!)
the whole thing would be amusing if it didn't have such a tragic background
I'm touched that that my opinion is the first and last thing you check on of a day ninfan
I'll update you on my final thought just b4 bedtime
Ed Milliband and your leftie heroes scuppered the move to take out Assad 3 years ago - and as a result thousands more have died in Syria.
Proud of yourselves?
Was it just like when the democrats scuppered Trumps Healthcare bill?
Well done ninfan, it must give you immense pleasure to think that thousands of deaths give you some extra points on an internet forum
You are absolutely correct tho a concerted bombing campaign and invasion of Syria to oust Assad would absolutely not have killed thousands of civilians and the world would definitely be a better place now.
Is all this bitterness because Diane Abbot was right in 2013 and if more people had listened to her then maybe millions of lives could've been saved?
Makes you think eh 🙄
Fox News reporting the Admiral Grigorovich is on it's way to confront the American ships that launched the attacks.
It's all a bit uneasy.
This is every politicians nightmare. You're crucified if you endorse action, crucified if you don't.
Even minding your own business results in criticism. Trump's a * of biblical order, but he has a real shit sandwich here, as does May and every other western leader. Russia are as complicit as Assad. The difference being they couldn't give a flying * for opinion, mainly because they control their press even tighter than the west does, mainly because they own it.
ninfan - Member
It's difficult to ignore the fact that it was in all probability a false flag operation, organised by rebels or Mossad and designed to trick a less than competent narcissist into aiding the rebel effort and keep the pot boiling just as there were signs it was beginning to cool.
But surely thats the essentially the Russian line - whoever it was, it wasn't Assad, as they are pro-Assad.So why on earth is Trump doing the opposite of what the Russians want? I thought he was supposed to be cosying up to them, what with him being a Russian agent and all that?
Why? Because it's the opening gambit on the next deal, nothing about this has anything to do with what actually might have happened, it's about what appears to have happened for the sake of strengthening Trumps hand, sooner or later he has got to sit the other side of a deal making table with Putin and of course he's already in the room with the Chinese, who have also been playing out of school in the South China Sea and this serves the purpose of reminding them both of his hand, he remains at the control of the most powerful armed forces on earth and he's now demonstrated with great theatrics he's prepared to use it, so call his bluff if you dare.
Obama was too smart for his own good, it is a stupid stupid world full of ignorant fools bent on power, money, arms sales, profit and of course hubris, sadly all they understand is force, I despair.
Inaction 3 years ago has seen 100,000 - 150,000 more deaths in the Civil War and contributed to the situation where Assad has "won"
Without intervention in Iraq its likely 500,000 Yazidis would have been slaughtered. Their race exterminated.
So Trump was suposed to be Putin's buddy according to press / his opponents. Not turned out that way
Action : Inaction is not an easy choice and there are casualties both ways.
Those figures are meaningless there's no way you can know how many would have died/been saved through action or inaction.
As for Trump/Putin this one action means nothing too, now that Russia have escalated it we'll see what Trump does.
Its the same justifications used to remove Saddam and Gaddafi?, odd that ninfan and Jamba are suddenly believers in the Blair doctrine?
It seems that some people are unable to learn from history
Trumps unpredictability is doing well here, no one knows if this is a limited attack or if he'd follow it up with a full on war, his paper thin skin and wrecklessness means hopefully that chemical weapons would not be used by Assad again.
Its also helped hugely with his image of being Putin's puppet without doing any damage to Russia
I'll bet Putin is starting to regret helping him win that election now!
For now at least it seems to have been his first smart move since becoming president
Inaction 3 years ago has seen 100,000 - 150,000 more deaths in the Civil War and contributed to the situation where Assad has "won"Without intervention in Iraq its likely 500,000 Yazidis would have been slaughtered. Their race exterminated.
Yes sure a few troops knocking at his door and Assad would have raised the white hanky and invited everyone in for a kebab.
Bus seriously I believe that if rather than invading Iraq we had had further negotiations with Saddam he would have allowed elections become a lovely bloke and be a judge at RHS Chelsea by now.
Not very smart if it means an increased Russian presence in Syria.
his paper thin skin and wrecklessness means hopefully that chemical weapons would not be used by Assad again
Assuming he used them in the first place....
For all the chat about the need for gloves etc..
Sarin evaporates quite quickly, usually faster than water.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-39513193
