[Closed] Trump- What does pussy mean.

Maybe pussy really does just mean coward* these days

Possibly. But certain words fall into disuse through advancing (although the advancement is clearly a bit troublesome for some) moral zeitgeist. There are shedloads of examples. I'm not saying "pussy" is a terrible word, but it's an interesting discussion to see how people feel it's used. I have to say, I really don't believe anyone who says "to me, it's purely used as a synonym for a scaredy-cat"...kinda in the same way that I wouldn't believe someone who says "I only use '****' as short for '****stani' "

scaredypants - Member

(oh, and pussyfooting to me implies evasiveness or being overly cautious, maybe sneaky too which is how I'd interpret Trump's labelling of Cruz)

He was talking about waterboarding- Cruz hasn't pussyfooted about that at all, that's kind of the point. He came out strongly against it and got derided as a pussy for not being torturey enough. It's not just a random insult like, "he's a dick" would be here, it's obvious what was meant by it- he's weak, he's cowardly. Not cat traits.

("cowardy cat" or "scaredy cat" doesn't work at all here; it might superficially look like it does but neither suggests cowardice is a standard cat trait, that's why it needs the adjective)

Now there's a wee line to walk here, because obviously women aren't any more weak or cowardly than men. But if you put yourselves in the shoes of someone who'll call a man a pussy because he doesn't want to torture everyone- that person is definitely saying "you are womanly" not "You are like a cat". It's the same mindset that'll use gay as an insult. Or say that Clinton got "schlonged"

Because who the hell ever tried to insult a guy by saying they're like a cat? I'm scottish so I can make anything sound like a mortal insult but "Ya ****in cat" isn't high on my personal abuse playlist.

deadlydarcy - Member
professionally offended
As has to be pointed out quite often to simple minded souls (present company excepted), it's entirely possible to have these discussions and to take either side without being offended on behalf of somebody. HTH.

I think he meant the article author, but yes I do agree, this is a nice interesting discussion that hasn't strayed off into insults yet

Yet, I wouldn't have made the connection. So maybe it's just how you think?

Yeah or how you don't 🙂

Darcy puts it well btw.

this is a nice interesting discussion that hasn't strayed off into insults yet

Oh bugger, I blew it!

Yet, I wouldn't have made the connection. So maybe it's just how you think?

JOKe only nothing more.

Darcy puts it well btw.

No, he doesn't.

The only time I use pussy is talking about a cat. I've never heard it used in person, other than talking about cats. Not being American...

A common root for lady bits pussy, and scaredy cat pussy seems entirely more likely than some perma-offended sixth form feminist explanation.

maybe its just that you dont

He was talking about waterboarding- Cruz hasn't pussyfooted about that at all, that's kind of the point. He came out strongly against it and got derided as a pussy for not being torturey enough.

I still interpret that as simply "coward" but then I've led a sheltered life

Anyway, shut it you slaaaags*, I've got work to do
*flounces* (in a masculine way, obvz)

5thElefant puts it well btw.

5thElefant - Member

Maybe. I always go for the simple explanation.

Seems to me that we already know Trump is a misogynistic bellend; yours is the more complex explanation not the simple one.

Seems to me that we already know Trump is a misogynistic bellend; yours is the more complex explanation not the simple one.

I'm pretty sure he didn't come up with the term, or invent the wig.

I agree, and I don't want to give him or Jill Filipovic ownership of a harmless term to describe a scardeycat.

I've never heard it used in person, other than talking about cats. Not being American...

I'm not American either and yet I've heard it a lot. I wonder how that happened?

some perma-offended sixth form feminist explanation.

Mocking something doesn't make it wrong 🙂

I'm not American either and yet I've heard it a lot. I wonder how that happened?

And did they mean lady bits, scaredy cats or just cats?

I've heard both British and Americans use it in the derogatory sense, as in timid or weak person. Both in person and on telly.

I've heard both British and Americans use it in the derogatory sense, as in timid or weak person. Both in person and on telly.

Me too, they meant like a cat.

I've heard the youf dem prefer to use the term pussyhole these days
As in 'you is a pussyhole bruv innit'
(not directed at me obvs 😳 )

toys192 - Member

Me too, they meant like a cat.

Aye, course they did. Like a cat, in some way that cats aren't like.

Aye, course they did. Like a cat, in some way that cats aren't like.

So the phrase scaredey cat, that has been mentioned many times so far on this thread in relation to pussy, is now nonexistant and invalid because you say so NW?
Have you ever heard that phrase in common parlance? It's [url= https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=scaredy%20cat&oq=scaredy%20catr&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.4287j0j7 ]everywhere.[/url]

Indeed perhaps behaviourists will prove that cats are 100% brave and never run or hide, thus undermining this common metaphor, but nevertheless, people perceive cats as thus, and apply it to people who are scared by calling them a pussy.
Do you actually disagree that people have associated the cat with being scared?

The only time I use pussy is talking about a cat.

Me too, they meant like a cat.

😆

Do you actually disagree that people have associated the cat with being scared?

I do, actually, since we're splitting hairs here.

A scaredy cat is a cat that is scared. It's not the same as saying all cats are timid. For example, we also have the term 'catty' to mean lashing out, being offensive, rather than timid.

Your WHOLE argument is based around this one single term, scaredy cat. That's all you have, and we've presented tons of reasoning to the contrary.

Nobody said all cats are timid. Catty is not the same as saying all cats are catty is it?

Your WHOLE argument is based around this one single term, scaredy cat. That's all you have, and we've presented tons of [s]reasoning[/s] special pleading to the contrary.

FTFY

toys pussy can mean scaredy cat but it can also mean more

as an example i doubt many folk would call their children pussies - unless of course they were acting like a cat- but they would day scaredy-cat. I think the scaredy gives it a way about about being scared and scaredy mouse would probably work though of course they are just timid.I guess a woman with mousey hair has really timid hair? It either that or sometimes word mean different things even if they are broadly , or sometimes, in certain contexts, , synonyms.

As for arguing pussy only means cat like you are TJ amd i claim my ride on your tandem.

Nobody said all cats are timid. Catty is not the same as saying all cats are catty is it?

Well yeah, it pretty much is.

I once knew a timid giraffe, but I don't go round calling timid people giraffey.

surely you use that for tall people or those who fall over when they try to drink water?

As for arguing pussy only means cat like you are TJ amd i claim my ride on your tandem.

That would make more sense yes. Or yellow brown spotty people.

I can't believe you are arguing that a metaphor doesn't exist just because it meaning is not factually accurate. Who cares if cats are not actually timid, they are known as such in common parlance.

Ah, this bantz takes me back...

* waves *

toys192 - Member

Have you ever heard that phrase in common parlance? It's everywhere.

I already talked about it, so obviously yes. Stop and think about what you're actually saying here for a second- "scaredy cat", not just cat. To make it about being scaredy you have to say "scaredy cat". Obviously "cat" by itself doesn't imply fear or cowardice or weakness- otherwise, why do you need the adjective? You wouldn't call them a scaredy cat, you'd just call them a cat. But cat by itself no longer implies scaredyness.

Turn it around. If you say someone's catlike, what traits are you describing? Stealth and grace, usually. Maybe lack of empathy and selfishness. Not cowardly. If you call someone catlike, they don't think "Oh, he's saying I'm scared" do they? So if you say "pussy" and you mean "he's scared" how does it make any sense to say it's because it's "catlike"?

Have you ever heard the term "black cat" in common parlance? It's everywhere. So obviously when he called Cruz a pussy he meant he has black fur.

No he means he is scared.One of many perceived cat traits, if it was one of many perceived dog traits that had been picked up and turned into metaphor he would have called him doggy.

Have you ever heard the term "black cat" in common parlance?

What the hell does that mean?

God am I that transparent.

You Pussy.

catlike=stealthy graceful
catty=lashes out or scratchy person
pussy=scared
cat=cat

There are lots of utterly contradictory words in this. There is nothing about a vagina that is scared, weak or anything else. It is hairy though so maybe that's why its called a pussy, but then hold on, not all cats are hairy so that makes that metaphor invalid.

You Pussy.

That's true, I am a bit of a scaredy cat.

I use the word often in the throws of passion! Not sure what the hell I would call it otherwise?

I don't have a cat, I don't like cats, I will never confuse the two, I will never confuse a cat.

That's true, I am a bit of a scaredy cat

toys192 - Member

One of many perceived cat traits

[i]Exactly[/i] my point.

Meanwhile, when you're talking about a known misogynist, who once wrote to a female journalist to tell her she had the face of a dog, who attacked another by saying she was menstruating, dismissed the chair of the debates as a bimbo, and attacked a presidential rival by saying she'd been screwed by her male colleague, and that she couldn't satisfy her husband, and that Bill Clinton would have been a hero if he'd screwed a prettier woman instead of Monica Lewinsky...

Yeah, he's definitely thinking about cats.

Don't want to get into the argument, cos i've no bloody idea what trump is on about most of the time.

But, cats do tend to run away if you make sudden movements, I would say that's where the term scaredy cat comes from, and maybe one form of pussy.

i've no bloody idea what trump is on about most of the time

Absolutely nothing, in reality.

I wonder what Trump would think if I called him a fanny.

I may just stick to calling him a complete arse.

In reality, this is a topic that can run and run, because it's not [i]actually[/i] about the meaning of the word, it's about the individuals perception of it. And that's kind of, err, individual. So, you're all right. And wrong.

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Since Are You Being Served, pussy has meant vagina.. We have accepted the american meaning..

As a derogatory term it is an americanism and it means someone who is weak and fearful in much the same way as

Big Jessie
Big girls blouse
Chicken and
Fanny

Occasionally we may call someone a

Big Pussycat

Meaning that they are kind and gentle

The origins have nothing to do with scaredy cat, otherwise we would be calling people kitties

'cept for the septics also say 'fraidy cat don't they..

hmmmm
bugger 😐

Since Are You Being Served, pussy has meant vagina..

I think it goes back a lot further than that (17th/18th c). Are you being served just played on the innuendo. Doesn't it have the same double meaning in French as well (la chatte)? Not sure that was anything to do with Miss Slocombe.

Bit late to this party, apologies if this breaks the flow.

A feminist once told me there was only one slang word for lady parts but many for gentleman parts. That was a funny 45 minutes...

If a feminsit writer is trying to create a scandel writing about Trumps use of the term pussey she is jist falling into his trap of creating yet more free publicity for him. He must be the most successful Presidential nomine candidate ever given his very low spending.

Trump used the term pussy exactly as its meant to be used in common slang, as someone who is weak - like a girl.